[Mo]

And do you know why?
On WM afterwards Moore said"new players can't come in to the match day squad straightaway, they have to spend time with the players and staff first and get to know them"
Not only concerned that this is like an FA version of grinder, but totally weird considering the last four signings
Holgate straight in starting
Murphy straight on bench came on
Montero straight on bench
Johansen......currently shaking hands with each player at the training ground and learning their tastes in music

A bit like his comment about always giving the kids a chance yet didn’t bring Harper on when four nil up at Rotherham away .

[baggiejohn]

To be fair what zippy has posted regarding Johansen is what Darren Moore said on WM after the game

Moore might be right, Montero & Murphy trained with the squad on Friday, don't know if Johansen did or not, but in any case he couldn't have been in the squad with Tosin.
It might not be possible for all three new loanees to play in the same squad.

[TheJacko2000]

Moore might be right, Montero & Murphy trained with the squad on Friday, don't know if Johansen did or not, but in any case he couldn't have been in the squad with Tosin.
It might not be possible for all three new loanees to play in the same squad.

Tosin will surely miss out going forward, having him and Bartley on the bench is utterly pointless.

[AlbionFan]

Did you just break up with him? This bromance is killing me. As you were...

No, he dumped me 

[OldburyWBA]

Moore might be right, Montero & Murphy trained with the squad on Friday, don't know if Johansen did or not, but in any case he couldn't have been in the squad with Tosin.
It might not be possible for all three new loanees to play in the same squad.

Yes he did train on Friday same as the other 2 as there were photos of him in that session, so what Moore said makes no sense given they all joined the same day.

The odds are Tosin will be left out or should be given we have more than enough centre half cover.

[Fritzl Palace]

Yes he did train on Friday same as the other 2 as there were photos of him in that session, so what Moore said makes no sense given they all joined the same day.

The odds are Tosin will be left out or should be given we have more than enough centre half cover.

What Moore says never makes a great deal of sense.

Tosin, much as I am a massive fan of his, should have been left off the bench on Saturday. I’d have started Johansen regardless of how well he knows the players, their wives, parents etc but at the bare minimum he should have been on the bench.

[SmethDan]

And do you know why?
On WM afterwards Moore said"new players can't come in to the match day squad straightaway, they have to spend time with the players and staff first and get to know them"................Johansen......currently shaking hands with each player at the training ground and learning their tastes in music

He really shouldn't bother.

From what I've heard their general taste in music is pretty sh ite to be honest  .

[slate]

No, he dumped me 

B*stard. Well I hope you're keeping the jewellery.

[iwastherein68]

B*stard. Well I hope you're keeping the jewellery.

Brilliant

[Raymond John]

Appropo Darren's in-game management; apart from Sheffield Wednesday away, has he made game-changing substitutions/formation changes resulting in points being gained which otherwise would have been lost?

[Fritzl Palace]

Appropo Darren's in-game management; apart from Sheffield Wednesday away, has he made game-changing substitutions/formation changes resulting in points being gained which otherwise would have been lost?

The issue with this is that that is the only in-game management performed by Darren that people can attribute to us gaining points, whereas there are so many instances where his in-game management has cost us points.

The Sheffield Wednesday one was bizarre because it resulted in us having about 5 central midfielders (or central midfielders in Darren's eyes) on the park and therefore you saw Brunt end up on the wide right (on a wing, where he should be) due to the imbalance and able to put the ball in for Barnes. The second goal was all Barnes and a piece of utter genius and majesty that can be but admired.

[AlbionFan]

B*stard. Well I hope you're keeping the jewellery.

Well, that's the least I deserve considering the hell he put me through 

[Hunnington Baggie]

Appropo Darren's in-game management; apart from Sheffield Wednesday away, has he made game-changing substitutions/formation changes resulting in points being gained which otherwise would have been lost?

of the top of my head, Norwich away. Hal came on as a sub and got the winning goal. You could argue Bolton away too as Field replaced Brunt and got the winner as well.

[Dexy]

of the top of my head, Norwich away. Hal came on as a sub and got the winning goal. You could argue Bolton away too as Field replaced Brunt and got the winner as well.

Villa at home , Brunt in the middle as sub feeding it out wide right which led to the second goal . Thats my favorite change anyway

[liverbaggie]

Impossible to say mate.

[Backofthenet]

In all fairness there will always be issues with whoever is managing because we all think we could do better and would pick different players etc.
Darren is actually achieving better than I thought and that increases the thoughts that we could and should be in the automatic places. Over a season the league position tells a story about how a team has performed and usually a club's position reflects it's ability.
At times there have been tactical decisions that have been questionable and some starting line-ups are arguable. However we are still in the race and we should enjoy it whilst it lasts. - It could be a lot worse.
I play (or try) golf and it's amazing at how many club members would be the best club steward, green-keeper and secretary (in their opinion).
Let Darren get on with it, there's no way he would lose points on purpose and this is a big learning curve.
There are teams in this league - Stoke, Villa as examples who really thought they would be promoted. Imagine how they feel at present.   

[baggiejohn]

In all fairness there will always be issues with whoever is managing because we all think we could do better and would pick different players etc.
Darren is actually achieving better than I thought and that increases the thoughts that we could and should be in the automatic places. Over a season the league position tells a story about how a team has performed and usually a club's position reflects it's ability.
At times there have been tactical decisions that have been questionable and some starting line-ups are arguable. However we are still in the race and we should enjoy it whilst it lasts. - It could be a lot worse.
I play (or try) golf and it's amazing at how many club members would be the best club steward, green-keeper and secretary (in their opinion).
Let Darren get on with it, there's no way he would lose points on purpose and this is a big learning curve.
There are teams in this league - Stoke, Villa as examples who really thought they would be promoted. Imagine how they feel at present.   

I also play golf, & the difference between a very good club player & a professional is incredible, the difference between an average club player & a professional is insurmountable.

Think it's the same situation in most sports.

[johnny Cash]

I'm not a huge fan of Darren Moore the manager. However I really do hope to be proven wrong in time. With that said, I don't think he did a lot wrong against Boro and poor individual errors cost us. 

Sadly, when not viewed in isolation I think we a failing to perform this season far to often. Earlier in the season we were clinical in front of goal and it masked those poor performances at times. 

The idea we should be happy because we arent as bad as Stoke or Villa is silly too.

[SmethDan]

Appropo Darren's in-game management; apart from Sheffield Wednesday away, has he made game-changing substitutions/formation changes resulting in points being gained which otherwise would have been lost?

You only have to watch games live to see how formations fluctuate from one to the other.

I honestly can't be bothered to check back through team line ups, substitutions and their timings but I know that many of his substitutions have been fairly late on.

The fact that we've gained so many points from losing positions (or had at one point) and scored so many goals late in games suggests to me that yes, he has made changes to affect results in our favour.

[GREGMT]

Well, that's the least I deserve considering the hell he put me through 

I must be a really nasty and intimidating so and so from behind a keyboard 

I would describe hell as what my Grandfather went through in World War II.  Fighting the Japanese in the Burmese jungle (hard to imagine what that was really like).

As agreed, now things are just fine between us.   

It will be interesting to see what transpires (as an onlooker) when your pro-Moore views go up against the anti-Moore views of other posters.......

[LiamTheBaggie]

Why do we have to split in to two groups Pro and anti Moore? Why don't we all get behind him and praise and criticise where neccesary?

There are far too many on this forum who get entrenched into their views they cannot recognise the differing opinion of another. They get that far entrenched that in staunch devotion to their opinion they either over criticise or over praise. This and the Chris Brunt threads being classic examples.

It's boring to be honest.

Lets praise Moore where he has done well (and there is lots) and criticise where he hasn't or can improve further.

Simple as that.

No need for petty groups where both fiercely air their opinions to mug of the opposing side from 5pm onwards every friggin' Saturday.

[OldburyWBA]

Why do we have to split in to two groups Pro and anti Moore? Why don't we all get behind him and praise and criticise where neccesary?

There are far too many on this forum who get entrenched into their views they cannot recognise the differing opinion of another. They get that far entrenched that in staunch devotion to their opinion they either over criticise or over praise. This and the Chris Brunt threads being classic examples.

It's boring to be honest.

Lets praise Moore where he has done well (and there is lots) and criticise where he hasn't or can improve further.

Simple as that.

No need for petty groups where both fiercely air their opinions to mug of the opposing side from 5pm onwards every friggin' Saturday.

Totally agree, it does seem that any criticism sees you down as Anti Moore and any praise sees you the Moore lover !!

No-one is above criticism and as a new Head Coach he will makes mistakes but its how you learn from them that matters, repeating the same errors over and over leads to deserved criticism and what some fail to acknowledge at times it that criticism is not the same as abuse.

[SmethDan]

Why do we have to split in to two groups Pro and anti Moore? Why don't we all get behind him and praise and criticise where neccesary?

There are far too many on this forum who get entrenched into their views they cannot recognise the differing opinion of another. They get that far entrenched that in staunch devotion to their opinion they either over criticise or over praise. This and the Chris Brunt threads being classic examples.

It's boring to be honest.

Lets praise Moore where he has done well (and there is lots) and criticise where he hasn't or can improve further.

Simple as that.

No need for petty groups where both fiercely air their opinions to mug of the opposing side from 5pm onwards every friggin' Saturday.

Well said that man  .

[tommcneill]

Why do we have to split in to two groups Pro and anti Moore? Why don't we all get behind him and praise and criticise where neccesary?

There are far too many on this forum who get entrenched into their views they cannot recognise the differing opinion of another. They get that far entrenched that in staunch devotion to their opinion they either over criticise or over praise. This and the Chris Brunt threads being classic examples.

It's boring to be honest.

Lets praise Moore where he has done well (and there is lots) and criticise where he hasn't or can improve further.

Simple as that.

No need for petty groups where both fiercely air their opinions to mug of the opposing side from 5pm onwards every friggin' Saturday.

Seems to be the way of the world right now....you have to be in one group or another, if you are in one group you have to continue with your view or you are kicked out of said group and into some kind of purgatory

Im very centrist in most things, happy to hear opinions, happy to debate, happy to criticise, happy to heap praise...all where its due

[Albionic]

Well said that man  .

Yowm bloody soft yow am !