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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: Yesterday at 06:10:00 PM »
It's a shame Hungary's best player is injured - a winger whose name starts with an S, can't remember it. Will miss the whole tournament.

Szoboszlai!

He signed for Leipzig for £20m in January but hasn’t managed a game yet. Very highly rated young player and Leipzig seem to have a formula / nack for knowing which  young players to gamble on.


I read somewhere that if Hungary get a point, it puts the cat amongst the pigeons in terms of one of this group getting a best placed third spot. I’ve not got the inclination to look at the permutations but it’ll be a disaster for Portugal not get out the group.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: June 14, 2021, 10:11:20 PM »
Experienced football people / person  is the sort of shout I’ve seen a few times.

However, does anyone actually know who these people are?  I didn’t like Dowling, but I do think appointing for this job is harder than appointing the manager.

I’m sure someone could, but I bet most of us couldn’t name 10 experienced football people suitable for our TD job.

You can’t just stick any ex player there and you cannot just stick any ex manager in either. The two I actually know Webber and Ashworth had unique trajectory's in to those positions

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: June 14, 2021, 06:11:13 PM »
Does Dan Ashworth earn 7 figures a year with BHA.

If not, go get him, pay what it takes. It’s the best investment Lai could now make. Give him all the authority he wants.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: June 12, 2021, 01:14:42 PM »
Also... what is the position we are in? As far as I can tell it’s Pretty much the same one we were in for 10 years previously.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: June 12, 2021, 12:24:15 PM »
He has been here 5 years August. He hasn’t destroyed us yet and doubt he will. Let’s get a bit of perspective here.

I didnt want Peace to go, I always felt he was a steady hand. However even if he had stayed we could have had a very similar 5 year period. It could easily be far worse than it is too.

Pretty much everytime people call for Lai out, when you dig in to why it’s because they want a benefactor, which hasn’t materialised in nearly 150 years so far, so I’m not sure why people think Lai is locking one out.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 12, 2021, 10:09:30 AM »
Not sure I agree with that position but it's felt clear for a while he has been given the cycle until the next world cup.

Feels a waste with these players as he isn't a top drawer tactician but they clearly value his statesmanship and ability to create a good atmosphere. They will also point to the world cup and nations league semi finals in his reign.

Only worry for me is that by 2024, Kane will be in his 30's and we're still waiting for his heir to emerge. Maybe that will be Delap, Balogun, Barry or someone else. Foden, Mount, Bellingham and Sancho should all be in their prime however.

I’d put Southgate in the same bracket as Solskjaer in the sense that he’s probably not done poorly enough to really deserve the sack, however it is difficult to see how either will be get success and really trouble the best.

Dismissal will therefore seem harsh and not guarantee success, but you definitely won’t achieve it unless you take the chance

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 12, 2021, 09:56:13 AM »
We need a manager who is adaptable. Not one that is simply Attacking or Defensive. In our position with our budget we should be able to be one of the better sides on the ball when playing in the championship but we simply can’t when we go up. 

Whether we like it or not we need a degree of pragmatism in the premier league as the players we have will not be capable we will not have the budget buy it. That doesn’t mean going all the way to Pulis but it does likely mean playing with slightly a different style.

For instance I think we usually underestimate the role of full backs.  In the championship attacking full backs are fine, in the prem we need ful backs who can defend and you instruct them differently.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 11, 2021, 05:45:42 PM »
Portugal 2016 disagree 😁

 :D :D Although my comment was in context of going out in the quarters, not going on to win it!

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 11, 2021, 05:21:47 PM »
Who says we're going to win the group though? It's entirely possible that we could finish second or third in the group and that so called 'lesser' teams in groups E or F overperform and we end up playing one of those. There are so many possibilities that there's little point in guessing who we would be playing in the round of 16 if we make it out of the group at this point.

We could probably do with finishing 2nd and then hopefully end up playing a 2nd place Group E Poland or Sweden or something. Like I say though, too many variables.

If we finish third in the group we might as well give up. Finishing third and stumbling to the quarters with a favorable draw will not be a success.

Besides, I dont think expecting us to win the group and get the tough second round draw is a stretch. It seems the most likely scenario.   Winning the group also see's us stay in London rather than going to Denmark which
I think Southgate will be keen on. 

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 11, 2021, 01:28:49 PM »
My 11 would be:

Henderson

Trippier
Stones
Coady
Chilwell

Rice
Bellingham

Grealish
Foden
Sancho

Kane

With subs we could then rest and rotate when jobs are done.

However I don’t see Rashford, Mount or Sterling missing out and I don’t think Coady will play. Ive gone for Coady personally because although limited I think he knows what he is and wouldn’t let himself down. I like his character.

There is Talk of playing the 3 at the back and wing backs, with the 5 made up of  4 full backs which I just find odd.

My prediction is we win the group unconvincingly then go out to Portugal, France or Germany in the next round. 

We could win the group well and still have that happen but I don’t like how we seem to be preparing and I think talk of semis is extremely optimistic given our likely route. Some group winners will get a side who finish a group in third which seems a big advantage. Strangely finishing third for us would probably give the preferable route but we are already fallling apart if that happens.

I think the squad is capable which is the frustrating part.

Southgates England managerial career could be a tale of two draws. A favourable draw saw us go well in the WC, and poor draw sees us underwhelm at the Euros.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 10, 2021, 09:34:45 PM »
England are still faffing about with formations in training.  I find that unbelievable.

I wonder if any team has ever moved between systems during a major tournament and been successful. It seems almost guaranteed we plan to do it.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 10, 2021, 09:07:03 PM »
If the owners or DoF had insisted on a fitness coach and a defensive coach, then i'd ave liked Slav to have stayed to motivate the players and be a good public face for us.

But we lost an enormous amount at the end of matches and at this level that's unforgivable. He deserved to be sacked, no matter how much he was likeable.

He had a fitness and a defensive coach!

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 10, 2021, 05:03:43 PM »
I posted the odds off Sky Bet an hour ago.

Cheers. I have just backed Appleton. It isn't really a market i would usually bet on but I honestly dont see much in the way of viable and realistic alternatives. It may need some compo but I expect a deal could be done with Lincoln and in the circumstances I see Dowling going back to what he knows.


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 10, 2021, 04:56:08 PM »
where can i actually bet on our next manager? I can't see market on either betfair or betvictor. Any know?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: June 10, 2021, 10:28:17 AM »
I watched Harper closely a couple of seasons ago in a home game when we had someone unavailable in midfield (cant remember the details). Harper was supposed to be playing the right side of a three and the starter of the press, which Livermore had been doing previously.

He (Harper) was absolutely dreadful he didnt have a clue where he was supposed to be in or out of possession and he hadnt got a clue what do or when to do it. The game just went on around him the whole time.

Herein lies his biggest problem for me, he lacks footballing intelligence and tactically is nowhere near aware enough.

I wish him well but he's never been good enough. Technically, he's not bad but other aspects of his game leave him well short of what we need.

If fans could spot this 2 years ago why couldnt the club?

It is as if the club hopes we will breed a superstar that will slot straight in to the premier league as a teenager and instantly be worth £20m. When the evidence shows 95% of the academy players produced by us who have gone on to reach decent levels in the past 10 years have needed to get out and get experience and ply their trade.

Being accountable in league one for 50 games, 90 minutes week in week out is far better than 200 minutes a season from our bench. That game mentality and experience will come in time as it does with most players.

If we think they can play for a club at the top of league one, send them to a mid table side. If we think the can play mid table, send them to a side likely fighting relegation.  Try and guarantee them minutes first of all. They will hopefully have to battle if they come back here so battle harden them. It also sets a minimum level / foundation for the youth player too which i've heard seen an academy coach talk about before. 

Once they've got 50 games and 5000 minutes as a pro you can worry about what they do next.


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: June 09, 2021, 10:02:19 PM »
He’s got all the attributes but somethings missing.

I think 46 games in league one would do him the world of good though. There’s a solid championship player there in the future.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 08, 2021, 09:16:34 PM »
I can’t say I’ve followed Wagner that closely but at one stage while at Huddersfield he was lorded by all. He inevitably left when huddlesfields resources stopped getting returns well above what they should have.

Since then he’s been to Schalke and at one stage had them on the cusp of the champions league places before something went horribly wrong.

I’m not thrilled about this, and if Lai has set such restrictive parameters that is a worry. However I don’t think it’s as bad as some are making out. I’m personally going to try and keep an open mind until I see how Wagner goes about things.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Threa
« on: June 08, 2021, 07:27:06 PM »
Bookies odds are not the be all and end all, but I’d think it’s incredibly naive to think the gambling industry wouldn’t have sources in football as well as reacting to large bets, rumours and market conditions.

Also, if you want any info sooty comes out with 10 minutes before he has it, just follow West Brom on newsnow. 

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General Football & Sports / Re: Anything Birmingham City
« on: June 08, 2021, 04:22:04 PM »
From memory JC I think they own a fair chunk of land around the ground too, so the actual footprint is larger.

You are right, i forgot to factor that in. You may be able to add the training ground which is probably more valuable real estate purely considering post code and the potential home value.

It would take a who lot of houses though, against a backdrop of public outcry to be more valuable than the football club. I just dont think the whole asset stripping is that big a threat to us and clubs like Blues.

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General Football & Sports / Re: Anything Birmingham City
« on: June 08, 2021, 03:22:44 PM »
Well I thought that to be the case, I was hoping for some wise sage to tell me that it was not possible due to some legal reason etc.

It has never actually been done as far as I am aware and as Alex says, you'd expect a combination of the Local Authority and public pressure would not allow it.  However it wouldnt be a good move anyway.

People have made comments about the Hawthorns being sold for housing in the past and would not be a good investment. I didnt think it would be but i wondered why people often said it so i double checked the math's.   

I think i worked out you'd get around 60 average 3 beds on a football pitch not factoring gardens or roads, so lets say it is still around 60 with the extra land we have with car parks, and stands etc. At £250,000 a piece that is £15,000,000 but the houses aren't built for free.  Even if you could get a 40% margin you'd barely make £5m.  You could stick some other facilities and probably make more in rents over time but nothing worth destroying a £100m football club for.



 





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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 08, 2021, 09:40:42 AM »
I'm not overly concerned about the delay, but typically players would be returning around the w/c the 21st of June.

I expect with the limited break last season that may be a little later this year but even if it is the 5th of July, that is now less than 4 weeks away.   

If I were the incoming manager I would probably want to watch 40-50 games off footage and have possibly have some input on our pre-season arrangements before the players returned. That becomes increasingly difficult the longer we wait so hopefully it is sooner rather than later.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 07, 2021, 08:49:43 PM »
I switched off at 3-0. Just seen it's 5-0 at half time. They have been poor in the run up as well but you watch them go deep in the tournament now.

They’ve left some really highly rated young talent out to give some of the older players a last hurrah by the looks of it, but they have another strong generation coming up behind.  Nobody seems to be talking about them much for this one but You don’t want to go behind to this German squad.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 07, 2021, 08:41:27 PM »
In this world, nothing is more certain than Death, taxes and Ze Germans hitting form ready for a major tournament.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Matheus Pereira
« on: June 07, 2021, 03:12:14 PM »
If he had a £15m release clause I think he would already be gone. Every club in the division would have triggered it so I’d be inclined to think it’s bull.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 07, 2021, 08:24:18 AM »
Glad to see someone else mention Ukraine. I saw something about them a few weeks ago on euro sport and they’ve a lot of highly rated young players. Winning seems unlikely but they could shock a few. The Ukraine press expect a mass export to Western Europe over the next few years.

It is Frances to lose for me. They might not have it their own way and could easily lose their first match to Germany but with potentially 3 qualifying from a group they have chance to get it together.

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