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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #350 on: October 02, 2020, 11:45:33 AM »
Southampton have made a bid for Brest midfielder Ibrahima Diallo.

Is he one of those mentioned by Stan or Mark?

Don't think he was one I saw, either. Was a guy from an Eastern European league, along with Sangare
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #351 on: October 02, 2020, 11:56:47 AM »
Okay the assumptions are piling up here and they may prove to be correct but they may not. With any transfer even ones that look quiet good at the outset a 100% loss is always available, which is why Jordan Ibe is so very relevant here. Against this Sheffield United have capped any profit they make from the deal at around £10.5m.

What makes it worse is that should things not work out and Sheffield United end up selling at a future date for £10m Liverpool have £1.5m of that fee and Sheffield United are nursing a loss of £13m

The other assumption is there is a market outside the English top flight that will pay £10m plus for a player who hasn't confirmed his early promise which cushions the downside, I know that place used to be called the Championship but I suspect that might not be case now or even in the future.


True, I did make some assumptions, but only in response to your absolute that it cannot work out for Sheffield United. We are also assuming the numbers are accurate. I suspect the buy back has some terms and restrictions, and I imagine the sell on is only on any profit.

The part missing when talking about capped profit is the value he has while at the club which is harder to quantify but could be huge if he players a big part in the clubs development.

There was discussions about us paying £5m for Grant, in a situation where he goes back to Huddesfield if he goes down and people were ok with that. Well I genuinely feel that you'd get £10m for Brewster in two years time, even if it goes terribly. So consider it £5m a year for a two year loan at which point you might cut your loses or if it goes well you may see a player go back to Liverpool and make some money.

If Watkins is £28m, and Grant is £18m. This isn't a terrible deal for a lad who is streets ahead of where either of those were at 20 and has always been incredibly highly rated.


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« Reply #352 on: October 02, 2020, 12:16:10 PM »
General point, Brewster's on a different level to Ibe.
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #353 on: October 02, 2020, 05:44:25 PM »
DEAL DONE: Rhian Brewster has joined Sheffield United from Liverpool on a five-year contract for £23.5m. The Reds have a 15% sell-on clause and a buy-back option. (Source: @SheffieldUnited)
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #354 on: October 02, 2020, 06:03:45 PM »
Not sure whether Blades have been done over or not there. How much is the buy back?

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« Reply #355 on: October 02, 2020, 06:42:54 PM »
German media reports suggesting talks between Chelsea and Bayern over the sale of Hudson-Odoi are at an advanced stage.

Great news for the English national team. A player out of favour at Chelsea, going to the best club side in the world in the lead up to a very winnable Euro's and World Cup.
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« Reply #356 on: October 02, 2020, 06:58:12 PM »
German media reports suggesting talks between Chelsea and Bayern over the sale of Hudson-Odoi are at an advanced stage.

Great news for the English national team. A player out of favour at Chelsea, going to the best club side in the world in the lead up to a very winnable Euro's and World Cup.

Unless of course he just goes and sits on the bench there too.  Sane and Gnabry are both excellent.

It makes a mockery of Chelsea’s promises to him a year ago to sign a new deal though. Young players are better off away from Chelsea if they’ve not come with a big price tag.

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« Reply #357 on: October 02, 2020, 07:28:34 PM »
Bayern traditionally have a better pathway for players than Chelsea do. He will likely get lots of minutes from the bench and is in a more forgiving environment.
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« Reply #358 on: October 02, 2020, 08:24:16 PM »
Bayern traditionally have a better pathway for players than Chelsea do. He will likely get lots of minutes from the bench and is in a more forgiving environment.

Bayern’s traditional pathway for players is excelling at another bundesliga club!

Although arriving with a price tag does generally mean players have more opportunity So you are probably right that he’ll get a decent level of minutes.

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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #359 on: October 02, 2020, 11:18:45 PM »
Glad to see Burnley have walked away from Liverpool's Harry Wilson valuation (£20m for those asking).

Of course, twitter being twitter, Liverpool fans think i'm mad for not agreeing with Liverpool FC that £20m is a realistic price for a 23 year old wide man who they are actively trying to sell, who can't get into their team and who struggled to hold down a starting birth at a club relegated last season. Got to love Liverpool fandls.
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« Reply #360 on: October 03, 2020, 09:01:24 AM »
Glad to see Burnley have walked away from Liverpool's Harry Wilson valuation (£20m for those asking).

Of course, twitter being twitter, Liverpool fans think i'm mad for not agreeing with Liverpool FC that £20m is a realistic price for a 23 year old wide man who they are actively trying to sell, who can't get into their team and who struggled to hold down a starting birth at a club relegated last season. Got to love Liverpool fandls.

This is the big difference this window the best players are holding value maybe not quite what it might have been but deals are being done. However players who are expensive for the level with question marks over their ability or attitude aren't moving at all.

Sorry, Liverpool can't buy Tiago for £20m and sell Harry Wilson in the same window for the same price. While I know they are at different stages of their career  Tiago is a top class midfielder and Wilson is an average top tier professional with a bit of potential.

Too frequently clubs like Burnley have helped out clubs like Liverpool by buying their rejects for too much money, would be delighted if this starts a trend.

 

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« Reply #361 on: October 03, 2020, 09:53:22 AM »
If Diangana is worth £18m then surely Wilson is worth £20m. Wilson has had 2 good seasons in the Champ and 1 in the Prem.

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« Reply #362 on: October 03, 2020, 09:58:39 AM »
If Diangana is worth £18m then surely Wilson is worth £20m. Wilson has had 2 good seasons in the Champ and 1 in the Prem.

I don’t think we paid £18m for Diangana. I think the initial reports of £12-13 rising to £18m are more likely true.

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« Reply #363 on: October 03, 2020, 10:42:55 AM »
Diangana is £12m rising to £18m if certain conditions are met. Wilson had a good start to last season but tailed off badly. I wouldn't say that Wilson is very obviously the better player. However Bertrand Traoré £16m I rest my case your honour but that is almost not the point.

If Burnley don't want to buy him who else is going to pay £20m or £15m or even £10m? I am sure there is a queue of suitors.
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #364 on: October 03, 2020, 01:06:26 PM »
If Diangana is worth £18m then surely Wilson is worth £20m. Wilson has had 2 good seasons in the Champ and 1 in the Prem.

Wilson couldn't nail down a place in Bournemouth's team last season. He startedone game post lockdown.

With Diangana, you are buying potential and buying a player who hasn't yet struggled at prem level. He was also wanted by West Ham - Liverpool have given up on Wilson.

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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #365 on: October 03, 2020, 04:47:19 PM »
Manchester United are in talks with Edinson Cavani's agent. The former PSG striker wants a multi-year contract worth €10m+ a season plus a huge agent fee. (Source: @FabrizioRomano)

They sound like a rich mans West Brom signing golden oldies  :D
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #366 on: October 04, 2020, 03:47:48 PM »
Manchester United have reached an agreement with Porto for the €20m signing of Alex Telles. It's a done deal. The left-back will have his medical tonight. (Source: Sky Sport News)
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #367 on: October 04, 2020, 03:54:44 PM »
Manchester United have reached an agreement with Porto for the €20m signing of Alex Telles. It's a done deal. The left-back will have his medical tonight. (Source: Sky Sport News)

Porto signed him for €6.5 million.

Where does it leave Luke Shaw?
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #368 on: October 04, 2020, 04:59:42 PM »
Porto signed him for €6.5 million.

Where does it leave Luke Shaw?

Sorry Mark my phone auto corrects Luke Shaw to well, what you just deleted.   ;D
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #369 on: October 04, 2020, 05:06:47 PM »
Edinson Cavani has arrived in Manchester to complete the final details of his move to Manchester United. He will undergo his medical later today, with the announcement expected tomorrow. (Source: ESPN)
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #370 on: October 04, 2020, 05:13:55 PM »
Judging by todays performance they will need a miracle..4-1 down at home to Spurs and down to 10 men
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« Reply #371 on: October 04, 2020, 09:19:19 PM »
Edinson Cavani has arrived in Manchester to complete the final details of his move to Manchester United. He will undergo his medical later today, with the announcement expected tomorrow. (Source: ESPN)
And when he arrived he said “bugger this“ and started coughing loudly.., he’s now back on the Eurostar
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #372 on: October 05, 2020, 12:16:23 PM »
Loftus Cheek likely going to Fulham
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Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« Reply #373 on: October 05, 2020, 12:50:01 PM »
Everton have signed Godfrey from Norwich for £25 million rising to £30 million.

They signed him from York for £150k.

The players are out there.
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« Reply #374 on: October 05, 2020, 01:13:44 PM »
Everton have signed Godfrey from Norwich for £25 million rising to £30 million.

They signed him from York for £150k.

The players are out there.

Dowling's spreadsheet has probably run out of columns.