[seteefeet]

We'll see. Continuing to draw with clubs like Millwall, Derby & Preston equals mid-table obscurity IMO.

As I said, the next few matches will be very telling on how things are going....but I sincerely hope my pessimism is misjudged!

What about drawing away to Bournemouth and crushing Sheff Utd and Luton?

I think it's fine to have concerns following the last 3 games, but, this level of pessimism is, indeed, misjudged. Hopefully a win tonight will restore your faith. 

[SmethDan]

We'll see. Continuing to draw with clubs like Millwall, Derby & Preston equals mid-table obscurity IMO.

As I said, the next few matches will be very telling on how things are going....but I sincerely hope my pessimism is misjudged!

Genuinely not having a pop and as Seteefeet has just mentioned I understand your concerns.

However, last season's Champions Norwich drew home and away with Preston and Millwall. And while able to overcome Derby County 1-0 at home they fell on their sword with a 1-0 defeat in the reverse fixture.

As Greavsie would have said 'it's a funny old game' and it's going to be a long old season too. Here's hoping our draws with Preston, Millwall and Derby serve as good omens moving forward as we all want what's best for the Albion.

COYB  .

[seteefeet]

Genuinely not having a pop and as Seteefeet has just mentioned I understand your concerns.

However, last season's Champions Norwich drew home and away with Preston and Millwall. And while able to overcome Derby County 1-0 at home they fell on their sword with a 1-0 defeat in the reverse fixture.

As Greavsie would have said 'it's a funny old game' and it's going to be a long old season too. Here's hoping our draws with Preston, Millwall and Derby serve as good omens moving forward as we all want what's best for the Albion.

COYB  .

Mate that is the absolute stat of the week. Bravo. 
If anyone needed a nerve settler before tonight's game that is it.





Don't tell anyone but they drew 1-1 with QPR at home. 

[miggybaggy]

I'm assuming this is 2nd div obscurity as in the championship obscurity.  Not League 2

Call me old fashioned....I still refer to the Championship as Division 2....because that's exactly what it is. Who the hell came up with the name Championship?!! 

[SmethDan]

.....Don't tell anyone but they drew 1-1 with QPR at home. 

Shhhhh, I didn't mention QPR for a reason.........  .

[seteefeet]

Shhhhh, I didn't mention QPR for a reason.........  .

That's why I only told you! 

[SmethDan]

That's why I only told you! 

Nice one, I think it's best we keep QPR a secret  .

[Albionic]

Nice one, I think it's best we keep QPR a secret  .

Get a room FFS ! preferably with the curtains drawn.

[baggiemart]

What about drawing away to Bournemouth and crushing Sheff Utd and Luton?

I think it's fine to have concerns following the last 3 games, but, this level of pessimism is, indeed, misjudged. Hopefully a win tonight will restore your faith. 

We played a Bournemouth team who had half their players missing. Sheffield United are now a totally different side to the one we played and 3-2 against Luton is not a crushing especially as Luton will struggle to make mid table a bit like Derby. Preston, Peterborough and Millwall. Luton also gifted us a couple of goals.

The best result we have had this season is the win at Blackburn.

[iwastherein68]

We played a Bournemouth team who had half their players missing. Sheffield United are now a totally different side to the one we played and 3-2 against Luton is not a crushing especially as Luton will struggle to make mid table a bit like Derby. Preston, Peterborough and Millwall. Luton also gifted us a couple of goals.

The best result we have had this season is the win at Blackburn.

Lucky we ay bottom o the league bay we mate!

[baggiemart]

Lucky we ay bottom o the league bay we mate!

just nice to see a bit of realism in the debate !!!

[gerry m]

Lucky we ay bottom o the league bay we mate!

By some of the comments on here i thought we were!!

[GREGMT]

Picking the likes of Livermore and Grant will get the Manager the sack.

Time after time certain players give us zilch.

Personally i'd pay up Livermore in January and free him.  Likewise I'd make a financial arrangement to get Grant back to Huddersfield.

No team has outplayed us / been better technically but we cannot score for toffee.

Wake up.Ismael.

[TheJacko2000]

Picking the likes of Livermore and Grant will get the Manager the sack.

Time after time certain players give us zilch.

Personally i'd pay up Livermore in January and free him.  Likewise I'd make a financial arrangement to get Grant back to Huddersfield.

No team has outplayed us / been better technically but we cannot score for toffee.

Wake up.Ismael.

Love a premature rant!!

[liverbaggie]

A win is a win
My prediction was correct for once
Sounded like our pressure cracked them to me
But a quality move won us the game
9 unbeaten 19 points impressive to me might not be great watch but top is pdg

[paulosull]

Didn’t think we would score tonight if I’m honest but an error from their keeper was welcomed.Again the performance had a lot to be desired but quality move for winner with lovely back heal by Hugil which shows we can play football.

[mulliganstired]

Picking the likes of Livermore and Grant will get the Manager the sack.

Time after time certain players give us zilch.

Personally i'd pay up Livermore in January and free him.  Likewise I'd make a financial arrangement to get Grant back to Huddersfield.

No team has outplayed us / been better technically but we cannot score for toffee.

Wake up.Ismael.

Your taxi and coat await you sir.

[BB74]

Val needed that win tonight.

[paulosull]

Val needed that win tonight.

especially after taking off Grady and not Grant

[frazzle]

Massive for Val. It was better football but still miles away. Far from convinced but pleased we won and hoping the result gives Grant the confidence he needs.

[paulosull]

Well he definitely hasn’t got a plan B  and this result will probably rubber stamp his belief in his system, tactics and substitutions. Football is  a lot to be desired but he got the result so won’t be too harsh.

[TheJacko2000]

Can we put this Plan B shout to bed? There is nothing else. This is the system, we either get behind it or not. Again tonight will gloss over the problems not with the system but with the personnel.

[LiamTheBaggie]

I keep hearing this plan b stuff - tonight was plan B and we looked much better for it.

Ignoring our obsession with intensity and focusing on control. We look a much better side when we get the ball down and move it into wide areas quickly. None of this lumping it around *****.

Tonight was much better than anything we’ve seen in recent weeks.

[GREGMT]

Your taxi and coat await you sir.

I think the equaliser could be a game changer in the season.  In truth we never looked like scoring for 77 mins.  We must assert our authority quicker in games, can't afford to concede the opening goal to inferior teams.

If you look at it from QPR's side, their game plan has worked to perfection for those 77 mins.

I stick my neck out and say we are not creating enough centrally.  Surely Castro has a part to play this season.  0-6 away to a Premier League's reserves is seriously impressive.

Anyway huge for the Manager.  Without tonight's turnaround he'd have been under colossal pressure at Cardiff & Stoke.

[alex1]

especially after taking off Grady and not Grant

Must admit I would have taken off Grant rather than Grady, who was our most dangerous player in the first half. But well done to Grant especially for the second goal, as at long last he got himself into a pocket of space in front of goal, and then was clinical when he needed to be.