Poll

Who do you want as manager

Michael Appleton
19 (5.9%)
Derek McInnes
9 (2.8%)
Alex Neil
1 (0.3%)
Chris Wilder
68 (21.1%)
Steve Cooper
12 (3.7%)
Frank Lampard
105 (32.6%)
John Terry
1 (0.3%)
David Wagner
10 (3.1%)
Valérien Ismaël
30 (9.3%)
Garry Monk
0 (0%)
Eddie Howe
37 (11.5%)
Nicky Butt
1 (0.3%)
Marco Silva
4 (1.2%)
Other (British based coach)
6 (1.9%)
Other (Foreign based coach)
19 (5.9%)

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« Reply #2550 on: June 10, 2021, 06:27:47 PM »
The only thing I’m fairly confident of is that we will make the announcement in the style of Irvine where it is right before an England game to try and hide the news

That was a different regime at the time. The decision makers on that are probably not even at the club anymore.

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« Reply #2551 on: June 10, 2021, 06:34:30 PM »
That was a different regime at the time. The decision makers on that are probably not even at the club anymore.

I didn’t say they were

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« Reply #2552 on: June 10, 2021, 06:36:36 PM »
Interesting post from another forum:

Not sure if it’s been covered on this bored elsewhere but speaking to an ITKer today the chain of events was as follows (and so I have some sympathy with our hierarchy at this stage).

CW was a done deal but Lai intervened due to the Sheff U owners (who are major investors/ business partners in his empire) threatened to pull out of these investments. Dowling has tried to negotiate with SU but no joy

Howe and Lampard are waiting on PL offers. Roy wants a break.

Neil has not been considered due to 2019 and Appy compo is around £1 million. Cooper from Swansea also expensive.

Wilder is still v keen and has been in regular touch with Dowling to see if the position changes. I hope it does

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« Reply #2553 on: June 10, 2021, 06:41:43 PM »
Interesting post from another forum:

Not sure if it’s been covered on this bored elsewhere but speaking to an ITKer today the chain of events was as follows (and so I have some sympathy with our hierarchy at this stage).

CW was a done deal but Lai intervened due to the Sheff U owners (who are major investors/ business partners in his empire) threatened to pull out of these investments. Dowling has tried to negotiate with SU but no joy

Howe and Lampard are waiting on PL offers. Roy wants a break.

Neil has not been considered due to 2019 and Appy compo is around £1 million. Cooper from Swansea also expensive.

Wilder is still v keen and has been in regular touch with Dowling to see if the position changes. I hope it does

Slip of the tongue?  ;D

What sector is the Sheffield United Owner in? Is it likely/possible him and Lai are connected?
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« Reply #2554 on: June 10, 2021, 06:45:56 PM »
Precisely that. He wasn't wanted at a bang average Scottish Premiership side so why on earth would we want him. His previous experience in this country was a disaster with Bristol City. People are setting their expectations far too low, despite how much of a shambles our board are, we should be attracting better
Bang average Scottish Premier league side? Well the way we are going we won't even be a bang average championship team this time next year.  We are a complete joke and it is becoming embarrassing now.

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« Reply #2555 on: June 10, 2021, 06:47:34 PM »
My worry is England play this weekend and you know what happened last time we announced our new head coach before an England game  :o

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« Reply #2556 on: June 10, 2021, 06:50:41 PM »
I was underwhelmed when I thought Wilder was going to be pour manager.
If he was announced as our manager in the morning I would be cock-a-hoop.
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« Reply #2557 on: June 10, 2021, 06:51:31 PM »
Slip of the tongue?  ;D
No, but it reveals which forum it was posted on! I have no sympathy for the Board - they've had months to plan for this and the problems they've hit upon could have been known (and resolved or the manager in question discounted) weeks ago.

We shouldn't be so hung up about paying compensation for a manager. Obviously it's a risk if things don't work out, but it gives us more choices and means we're more likely to get someone who's on the up rather than in decline. Managerial compensation costs are peanuts compared to fees/wages paid for players and yet if players who've been signed aren't successful, clubs just shrug their shoulders and sell them for a massive loss or freeze them out until their contract runs out.

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« Reply #2558 on: June 10, 2021, 06:52:55 PM »
Slip of the tongue?  ;D

What sector is the Sheffield United Owner in? Is it likely/possible him and Lai are connected?

Don't think so - other than both earning their wealth in systems that have precious few workers or human rights.

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« Reply #2559 on: June 10, 2021, 06:56:13 PM »
I've had a look at managers who fit the Allardyce/Wagner remit (experience of promotion from the championship) and if Neil has been ruled out, that would almost certainly mean the well is dry. Jokanovic, Hughton, Pearson, Warnock all in work already and the rest are all dried up and on the way down.

Means we either change the remit or look at success in the lower leagues.

Robins, Appleton, Critchley all in play in that sense.
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« Reply #2560 on: June 10, 2021, 06:58:18 PM »
Slip of the tongue?  ;D

What sector is the Sheffield United Owner in? Is it likely/possible him and Lai are connected?

If you follow Simon Chadwick, who is a specialist on sport related money in China & the Arab nations, there is a a distinct link between them.
Both are committed to becoming world powers in sport.

On that basis, I'd say there's a very good chance Prince Abdullah & Lai are connected. I would even take a guess that any potential buyers also have Middle East connections. The theory does make sense.
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« Reply #2561 on: June 10, 2021, 06:59:49 PM »
Interesting post from another forum:

Not sure if it’s been covered on this bored elsewhere but speaking to an ITKer today the chain of events was as follows (and so I have some sympathy with our hierarchy at this stage).

CW was a done deal but Lai intervened due to the Sheff U owners (who are major investors/ business partners in his empire) threatened to pull out of these investments. Dowling has tried to negotiate with SU but no joy

Howe and Lampard are waiting on PL offers. Roy wants a break.

Neil has not been considered due to 2019 and Appy compo is around £1 million. Cooper from Swansea also expensive.

Wilder is still v keen and has been in regular touch with Dowling to see if the position changes. I hope it does


Lepowski mentioned something similar on Twitter before, not sure how real that angle could be regarding Sheffield United’s owners that would surely be a form of blackmail effectively. If it’s true Wilder could go after them legally for loss of earnings etc.

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« Reply #2562 on: June 10, 2021, 07:36:21 PM »
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CW was a done deal but Lai intervened due to the Sheff U owners (who are major investors/ business partners in his empire) threatened to pull out of these investments.

Does that qualify as restraint of trade?

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« Reply #2563 on: June 10, 2021, 07:39:56 PM »
Does that qualify as restraint of trade?

I wouldn’t think so because there are other jobs available that he could take? And these investments are probably overseas. Not sure though, maybe someone could clear it up.

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« Reply #2564 on: June 10, 2021, 07:40:18 PM »
But the U.K management (with some form of football experience as loosely as you can use that with Dowling) had come to a decision to hire Wilder, this was then overruled by the guy in China who knows nothing about football & who’s shown no interest in the club in the 2 years.

This mess is 100% on Lai if it was left to the U.K board Wilder would have been announced last week.

Who knows what the real story is.  All we are getting to hear is rumours. Unless we are sitting in that room when discussions are being held nobody knows the real facts.

A lot of people are making suggestions at what has gone on but I bet its all a million miles away from the  truth.

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« Reply #2565 on: June 10, 2021, 07:52:14 PM »
Does anybody regret us getting rid of Bilic ??

I was against his sacking anyway. We were never going to survive last season.
If he was still here at least we would have some stability and be in a better position to have a good crack at promotion again next season.
As it is now with the manager contenders, mid table at best. Depending who the manager is it could even be a relegation fight. 

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« Reply #2566 on: June 10, 2021, 07:54:34 PM »
Does anybody regret us getting rid of Bilic ??

I was against his sacking anyway. We were never going to survive last season.
If he was still here at least we would have some stability and be in a better position to have a good crack at promotion again next season.
As it is now with the manager contenders, mid table at best. Depending who the manager is it could even be a relegation fight.

No because there was no relationship left between him and board. Both sides knew it.

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« Reply #2567 on: June 10, 2021, 08:05:34 PM »
Slip of the tongue?  ;D

What sector is the Sheffield United Owner in? Is it likely/possible him and Lai are connected?

He’s in tissue paper.

He’s known as the bog roll prince on the blue and white side of Sheffield  :D
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« Reply #2568 on: June 10, 2021, 08:06:12 PM »
Does anybody regret us getting rid of Bilic ??

I was against his sacking anyway. We were never going to survive last season.
If he was still here at least we would have some stability and be in a better position to have a good crack at promotion again next season.
As it is now with the manager contenders, mid table at best. Depending who the manager is it could even be a relegation fight.

Someone always finds a way of brining up slaven. His time has been and gone and the mistake the board made with him was not sacking him a month sooner. Yes he had limited funds to play with but what he did have he didn't utilise smartly along with Dowling and high fiving your players and massaging their egos will only get you so far. He got found out at West ham and didn't have a plan b and got found out here and shock horror had no plan B

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« Reply #2569 on: June 10, 2021, 08:07:09 PM »
No because there was no relationship left between him and board. Both sides knew it.
The draw at Man City in Slav's last game does not support that?
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« Reply #2570 on: June 10, 2021, 08:08:52 PM »
This isn’t the thread for Slaven. He’s history.
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« Reply #2571 on: June 10, 2021, 08:11:32 PM »
The draw at Man City in Slav's last game does not support that?

Was a good performance mate but doesn't change the fact the relationship was dead. I cant say anymore, not being rude to you mate it's just the thread for the new boss



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« Reply #2572 on: June 10, 2021, 08:17:46 PM »
They still have Wagner at 16/1.
He's already been confirmed as manager of Young Boys
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« Reply #2573 on: June 10, 2021, 08:18:16 PM »
Someone always finds a way of brining up slaven. His time has been and gone and the mistake the board made with him was not sacking him a month sooner. Yes he had limited funds to play with but what he did have he didn't utilise smartly along with Dowling and high fiving your players and massaging their egos will only get you so far. He got found out at West ham and didn't have a plan b and got found out here and shock horror had no plan B

You say all that but have you seen the options we are left  with !!!

Well you could say we probably deserve this mess. 

The Buckley days could be on us again !!!!

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« Reply #2574 on: June 10, 2021, 08:23:07 PM »
You say all that but have you seen the options we are left  with !!!

Well you could say we probably deserve this mess. 

The Buckley days could be on us again !!!!

They could very well be but fact of the matter is none of us know what's going on?! We don't know what names are on the list. Billic came out of nowhere last year and wagner did this time round but it's a fact Billic has been and gone and unless they have somehow convinced him to leave the payday in China I don't see how he is relevant.