Poll

Who do you want as manager

Michael Appleton
19 (5.9%)
Derek McInnes
9 (2.8%)
Alex Neil
1 (0.3%)
Chris Wilder
68 (21.1%)
Steve Cooper
12 (3.7%)
Frank Lampard
105 (32.6%)
John Terry
1 (0.3%)
David Wagner
10 (3.1%)
Valérien Ismaël
30 (9.3%)
Garry Monk
0 (0%)
Eddie Howe
37 (11.5%)
Nicky Butt
1 (0.3%)
Marco Silva
4 (1.2%)
Other (British based coach)
6 (1.9%)
Other (Foreign based coach)
19 (5.9%)

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Re: New Manager Thread
« Reply #725 on: May 22, 2021, 01:28:55 PM »
John Terry was given a big splash in the Times today:

>Wants to manage a club but it has to be decent sized.

>Loved being at Villa - but he will always be rooting for Chelsea.

>Has learnt so much from Dean [Smith] - (possibly how to spend money like water and get a mid-table return)

I think that's three and out, yes?
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« Reply #726 on: May 22, 2021, 01:33:37 PM »
Nailed on for Wilder , I think its his to turn down .
Appealing as stale bread to me but has my support If the jobs his .
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« Reply #727 on: May 22, 2021, 01:41:01 PM »
Does anyone have the remotest idea of John Terry's abilities as a coach, how he sets teams up or his ability to make in game tactical changes or substitutions? I haven't searched online so I don't know. Does anyone know how he rates as a man manager or how he operates in the transfer market?

If nobody can answer those questions then those suggesting John Terry as our prospective new head coach are taking a leap of faith based on nothing stronger than his name, being Dean Smiths assistant and being the bloke who stood behind RDM on a touchline in a Champions League Final.
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« Reply #728 on: May 22, 2021, 01:42:08 PM »
John Terry was given a big splash in the Times today:

>Wants to manage a club but it has to be decent sized.

>Loved being at Villa - but he will always be rooting for Chelsea.

>Has learnt so much from Dean [Smith] - (possibly how to spend money like water and get a mid-table return)

I think that's three and out, yes?

I know i'm probably in the minority here and maybe its old fashioned (i'm only 40 mind). But i don't want utter scumbags at my club. Giggs for example. You offer me Giggs as Manager and tell me we'd win the league, i'd honestly say no.

If the club doesn't stand for something good, it might as well not exist. For me at least.

Don't want Terry anywhere near the club ever. He's a stain of a person
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« Reply #729 on: May 22, 2021, 01:56:57 PM »
I wouldnt want Terry for the simple reason he's had absolutely no experience of being a manager, regardless of anything else.

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« Reply #730 on: May 22, 2021, 02:27:53 PM »
Not sure he’d be interested but anyone else think Craig Shakespeare would be worth considering

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« Reply #731 on: May 22, 2021, 02:29:01 PM »
Appreciate what you're saying & I probably would want to speak to him, even if it's only to sound him out for a potential future appointment.

The criteria for this immediate position is starting to filter through & it looks as though JT doesn't meet it as well as some of the other candidates at the moment.

The outstanding candidate against the criteria appears to be Wilder, problem with that is he's in a position to dictate his price.
If we can't agree terms, then the other candidates come into play.

This is key and seems to being ignored by many. He was on £4m per annum at Sheffield. Unless he softens demands he won’t come here!

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« Reply #732 on: May 22, 2021, 03:04:56 PM »
It will be sensible wages with a very big bonus for promotion. Similar to SA's sensible wages with a big staying up bonus.
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« Reply #733 on: May 22, 2021, 03:13:15 PM »
Nailed on for Wilder , I think its his to turn down .
Appealing as stale bread to me but has my support If the jobs his .

Haha absolutely nailed it. Doesn't excite me one bit but will get behind him if he gets the job, yes.
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« Reply #734 on: May 22, 2021, 03:14:14 PM »
Haha absolutely nailed it. Doesn't excite me one bit but will get behind him if he gets the job, yes.
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« Reply #735 on: May 22, 2021, 03:14:54 PM »
It will be sensible wages with a very big bonus for promotion. Similar to SA's sensible wages with a big staying up bonus.

Maybe, but he has to accept those ‘sensible’ wages first.

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« Reply #736 on: May 22, 2021, 03:53:25 PM »
Nailed on for Wilder , I think its his to turn down .
Appealing as stale bread to me but has my support If the jobs his .

Just cannot help thinking that we are entering a period of football for the club that we will subsequently refer to as the 'wilderness years'.

This thread is just depressing at the moment, no fault of the posts, just the situation we find ourselves in both in terms of quality of candidates available and the knowledge that there is no money or ambition from 'Ken & Co'.
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« Reply #737 on: May 22, 2021, 04:15:34 PM »
Sorry, I’m just struggling with all the negative opinions about Wilder (although I appreciate we are all fans of a game where opinions can vary greatly!).

Yes, last season was an absolute disaster for CW and Sheff U. Yet, look at his record. He’s clearly a very, very good manager, motivator and somebody that creates a perfect ‘team’ or ‘squad’ culture around a club. His Sheff U team didn’t score many goals in their promotion season - even less so in the their first Prem season - but the combination play with a deep lying playmaker (Norwood), use of the full backs and general rotations across the pitch - it was good football. He mixed it up when he needed to, but it was rarely long ball.

Lots of worry to say our players don’t suit his 532/352 - who’s to say that’s definitive in terms of how he’ll play?

I for one would be chuffed with the appointment over the clueless Lampard and awful human being Terry.

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« Reply #738 on: May 22, 2021, 04:26:37 PM »
Maybe, but he has to accept those ‘sensible’ wages first.
He is out of work so he's not holding a strong hand of cards, not with the season he's just had. Having said that I'm surprised he is still unemployed, he seems a decent coach/manager (regardless of his preferred style of play etc.). Maybe he's had offers andis just waiting for us :D
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« Reply #739 on: May 22, 2021, 04:28:32 PM »
If we go for someone from lower down the tree, how about Gareth Ainsworth?
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« Reply #740 on: May 22, 2021, 04:42:51 PM »
Why not try putting in an offer to Neil Critchley of Blackpool now.  he's practically got them into the same league as us - in the right direction. 

why not try a different approach to going for defensive minded managers picking journeymen and loanees and gives young players a chance including from our academy?.

It's not much more of a gamble than Wilder with all his baggage.
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« Reply #741 on: May 22, 2021, 04:52:09 PM »
What is Ian Holloway up to ???

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« Reply #742 on: May 22, 2021, 04:56:37 PM »
What is Ian Holloway up to ???

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Why stop there? Barry Fry in as director of football
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« Reply #743 on: May 22, 2021, 05:13:42 PM »
Why stop there? Barry Fry in as director of football

Why did I not think of that, footy could do with a bit of levity to it
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« Reply #744 on: May 22, 2021, 10:11:51 PM »
Alan Nixon of The Sun states we may struggle to get Wilder as he thinks he has earnt a job in the Premier League. Also said we could go after the Barnsley manager if Wilder doesn't fancy it.
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« Reply #745 on: May 22, 2021, 10:14:05 PM »
Alan Nixon of The Sun states we may struggle to get Wilder as he thinks he has earnt a job in the Premier League. Also said we could go after the Barnsley manager if Wilder doesn't fancy it.

Also says we are offering 25k per week max to the new manager which is £1.3m a year so can't see Wilder coming for that.

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« Reply #746 on: May 22, 2021, 10:36:06 PM »
Alan Nixon is absolutely rubbish, wouldn’t listen to him!
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« Reply #747 on: May 22, 2021, 10:36:53 PM »
Also says we are offering 25k per week max to the new manager which is £1.3m a year so can't see Wilder coming for that.

You’re right; he won’t come for that salary.

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« Reply #748 on: May 22, 2021, 10:53:46 PM »
Alan Nixon of The Sun states we may struggle to get Wilder as he thinks he has earnt a job in the Premier League. Also said we could go after the Barnsley manager if Wilder doesn't fancy it.

Be very curious to know who he thinks in the Prem would employ him. Suppose he may fancy waiting it out and seeing who gets canned from the bottom third teams in the new season.

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« Reply #749 on: May 22, 2021, 11:05:04 PM »
Assuming that Nixon is right which is possible because a stopped clock is right twice a day. If we are offering £25k a week it is probably going to be one of the better wages being paid to a manager in in the Championship I am fairly certain only Scot Parker will be earning significantly more.

I suspect it probably rules Lampard out and if any coach we approach thinks they have a reasonable prospect of a Premier League role then they might be well advised to hold out for the money. All of which fine by me.
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