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How would you rate Luke Dowlings tenure to date (26 may 2021)

Roaring success, we'll be lucky to keep him
2 (1.8%)
Doing well given the limitations he has to work under
9 (8.1%)
Ok
16 (14.4%)
Poor, could be doing better overall
49 (44.1%)
Abject, needs to be fired or walk,
35 (31.5%)

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Voting closed: June 05, 2021, 12:28:58 PM

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« Reply #800 on: June 03, 2021, 09:32:07 PM »
Can we blame him for the lack of a new kit available to buy?
Seriously though why are we so slow releasing our kits every year.
Most teams play in their new kit last game of the season.
Until we get a new owner or someone on the board above this muppet who has even the smallest amount of knowledge about football we will continue to lurch from one disaster to the next

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« Reply #801 on: June 03, 2021, 09:38:03 PM »
Can we blame him for the lack of a new kit available to buy?
Seriously though why are we so slow releasing our kits every year.
Most teams play in their new kit last game of the season.
Until we get a new owner or someone on the board above this muppet who has even the smallest amount of knowledge about football we will continue to lurch from one disaster to the next
do they? maybe top 6 but from memory it's not a common occurrence.

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« Reply #802 on: June 06, 2021, 10:24:19 PM »
I'm hoping our lad Luke pulls a rabbit out the hat with our next manager.
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« Reply #803 on: June 08, 2021, 10:59:49 PM »
As well as Baggies post on here I've seen the offer to resign rumour several times elsewhere , while I admire that stance I hope they take him up on that for reasons I've posted before and If true I'm not sure how you work with a new manager after that .
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« Reply #804 on: June 08, 2021, 11:28:36 PM »
As well as Baggies post on here I've seen the offer to resign rumour several times elsewhere , while I admire that stance I hope they take him up on that for reasons I've posted before and If true I'm not sure how you work with a new manager after that .

If he's leaked the Wilder tale to the press I imagine he'll get the tin tack anyway.
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« Reply #805 on: June 08, 2021, 11:29:15 PM »
He has to go for a number of reasons.

His previous history stands alone in itself but there are two additional points

1. He has lost the power battle with Lai who has drawn rank. He’s been shafted as the man overseeing football operations is now working with a man he seemingly does not want.

2. Either Dowling or one of his team have undermined the new head coach by briefing to the media around our refusal to pay compensation towards in work coaches. That has encouraged the sway of ill feeling towards the board which Wagner will carry the can for given he’s the owners man. Their lack of presence at this club puts Wagner in the firing line.
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« Reply #806 on: June 08, 2021, 11:34:52 PM »
He has to go for a number of reasons.

His previous history stands alone in itself but there are two additional points

1. He has lost the power battle with Lai who has drawn rank. He’s been shafted as the man overseeing football operations is now working with a man he seemingly does not want.

2. Either Dowling or one of his team have undermined the new head coach by briefing to the media around our refusal to pay compensation towards in work coaches. That has encouraged the sway of ill feeling towards the board which Wagner will carry the can for given he’s the owners man. Their lack of presence at this club puts Wagner in the firing line.
I agree with this entirely but, unless they have someone already lined up to replace him and who can hit the ground running, it's going to make a hell of a mess of our summer transfer activity.

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« Reply #807 on: June 08, 2021, 11:38:50 PM »
I agree with this entirely but, unless they have someone already lined up to replace him and who can hit the ground running, it's going to make a hell of a mess of our summer transfer activity.

He sacked Nick Hammond without a replacement.

I refuse to believe that Terraneo was ever a worthwhile replacement as he was sacked within two months.

I wonder whether he’s learned his lesson.
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« Reply #808 on: June 09, 2021, 12:07:00 AM »
He has to go for a number of reasons.

His previous history stands alone in itself but there are two additional points

1. He has lost the power battle with Lai who has drawn rank. He’s been shafted as the man overseeing football operations is now working with a man he seemingly does not want.

2. Either Dowling or one of his team have undermined the new head coach by briefing to the media around our refusal to pay compensation towards in work coaches. That has encouraged the sway of ill feeling towards the board which Wagner will carry the can for given he’s the owners man. Their lack of presence at this club puts Wagner in the firing line.


Don't think point 1 is necessarily correct. Lai might just have said, i don't want Wilder, get me someone else. In that case, Wagner is still Dowling's man.

Point 2, however is far more serious. Briefing against Lai's decision not to pay compensation undermines Lai far more than Wagner, & if proven, is undoubtedly a sackable offence
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« Reply #809 on: June 09, 2021, 07:58:50 AM »

Don't think point 1 is necessarily correct. Lai might just have said, i don't want Wilder, get me someone else. In that case, Wagner is still Dowling's man.

Point 2, however is far more serious. Briefing against Lai's decision not to pay compensation undermines Lai far more than Wagner, & if proven, is undoubtedly a sackable offence

Choosing a candidate from an unemployed list does not make him Dowling man when the unanimous choice of the board was to appoint Wilder.

Lai who knows bugger all has drawn rank over the man who is paid to run the football operations of this club.
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« Reply #810 on: June 09, 2021, 08:17:05 AM »
Dowling wont go anywhere.....he wont get a gig like this anywhere else. And no doubt he'll have a lot of say over new signings, just like Webber did when Wagner was at Huddersfield.
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« Reply #811 on: June 09, 2021, 08:24:06 AM »
Choosing a candidate from an unemployed list does not make him Dowling man when the unanimous choice of the board was to appoint Wilder.

Lai who knows bugger all has drawn rank over the man who is paid to run the football operations of this club.

The board consists of Li Piyue, Ken & Mark Miles.
Dowling is listed as part of the management team. He's also not listed as a director at companies house.
I'm not convinced Wilder was the unanimous choice of the board.
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« Reply #812 on: June 09, 2021, 08:39:50 AM »
The board consists of Li Piyue, Ken & Mark Miles.
Dowling is listed as part of the management team. He's also not listed as a director at companies house.
I'm not convinced Wilder was the unanimous choice of the board.

You’re playing semantics with job titles.

It has been reported by both Masi and Percy that Wilder was the unanimous choice of the board.

That appointment was vetoed by Lai

I am not sure why you’re taking a wholly different approach because there is nothing out there to support it.
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« Reply #813 on: June 09, 2021, 08:44:05 AM »
I wonder if Dowling has partly had the Wilder option taken away as the Allardyce tenure didn't work out which was also  a Dowling option .
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« Reply #814 on: June 09, 2021, 08:47:55 AM »
You’re playing semantics with job titles.

It has been reported by both Masi and Percy that Wilder was the unanimous choice of the board.

That appointment was vetoed by Lai

I am not sure why you’re taking a wholly different approach because there is nothing out there to support it.
Just to add to this Liam I posted 2 weeks ago Dowling was pushing for Wilder from a solid ITK , the owners wanted Lampard or the like . Looks pretty much like the ITK was correct and no it wasn't our mate off Twitter ;D .
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« Reply #815 on: June 09, 2021, 08:48:15 AM »
I wonder if Dowling has partly had the Wilder option taken away as the Allardyce tenure didn't work out which was also  a Dowling option .

Then Lai should get rid of him.
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« Reply #816 on: June 09, 2021, 08:48:46 AM »
His position seems to be becoming fairly untenable as far as I can see it. If he has been appointed to deal with football related activities on behalf of Lai and he has been overruled in the managerial appointment, i.e. the bloke he will have to work with on a daily basis on all facets of the team, it does not bode well.

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« Reply #817 on: June 09, 2021, 08:49:01 AM »
I wonder if Dowling has partly had the Wilder option taken away as the Allardyce tenure didn't work out which was also  a Dowling option .

If that’s the case then he needs to be sacked.
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« Reply #818 on: June 09, 2021, 08:49:22 AM »
I wonder if Dowling has partly had the Wilder option taken away as the Allardyce tenure didn't work out which was also  a Dowling option .

yes, if i was Lai, i wouldnt take LD's recommendations seriously, but neither can i imagine a process where Wagner comes out top of the list.

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« Reply #819 on: June 09, 2021, 08:51:37 AM »
If that’s the case then he needs to be sacked.
You know my view , should have been outed as soon as we got relegated .
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« Reply #820 on: June 09, 2021, 08:52:34 AM »
You know my view , should have been outed as soon as we got relegated .

I think you need to stop sitting on the fence mate and tell us how you really feel  :D
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« Reply #821 on: June 09, 2021, 08:55:05 AM »
If Lai will not pay anything for a manager to come in, why do we expect him to sack Dowling and incur those costs?  He will wait for LD to walk, could be a long wait though, which achieves what exactly ?? 

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« Reply #822 on: June 09, 2021, 09:01:04 AM »
I wonder if Dowling has partly had the Wilder option taken away as the Allardyce tenure didn't work out which was also  a Dowling option .

To be fair Dexy, the appointment of Allardyce was logical given our dire position at the time, most of us would have gone with that given any alternatives available.

It is likely to be the failed Allardyce appointment that ultimately costs him I think.
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« Reply #823 on: June 09, 2021, 09:04:28 AM »
If Lai will not pay anything for a manager to come in, why do we expect him to sack Dowling and incur those costs?  He will wait for LD to walk, could be a long wait though, which achieves what exactly ?? 

The farce is in danger of turning into a tragedy
Dowling would be on a lot less than any manager and Lai soon outed Williams and Goodman .
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« Reply #824 on: June 09, 2021, 09:05:47 AM »
To be fair Dexy, the appointment of Allardyce was logical given our dire position at the time, most of us would have gone with that given any alternatives available.

It is likely to be the failed Allardyce appointment that ultimately costs him I think.
Totally agree mate , no issue on that but from Lai's view it was another costly failure .
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