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Will you be taking up your option of receiving the Covid vaccine.

Yes
90 (86.5%)
No
11 (10.6%)
Undecided
3 (2.9%)

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« Reply #1000 on: April 11, 2020, 09:54:14 AM »
They won't increase tax and righty so.
 
It's the governments proplem. They can't blame us or take even more money away.

Let me ask you - what would you have done or what would you do now  - supposing you had the authority? (Coronavirus19 that is)

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« Reply #1001 on: April 11, 2020, 09:56:05 AM »
Of course it will and it should, there is a big bill to be paid, but it needs to be identified separately and paid fairly by everyone proportionately to income.

I'm all for fair, but I've paid into the system all my life, a lot of what I've paid in has been at a higher rate.
I'm self employed, we all read that the self employed would be helped out and get 80% of their profit paid.
Let me tell you as a self employed person I get nothing. Zilch. Nada.
Because my profit is above thee threshold I get nothing.
So where is that fair, I pay the most and get the least?
My old man always said 'You can't educate pork!'

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« Reply #1002 on: April 11, 2020, 09:57:47 AM »
They won't increase tax and righty so.
 
It's the governments proplem. They can't blame us or take even more money away.

Dream on.
We'll be paying this money back for at least a generation.
My old man always said 'You can't educate pork!'

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« Reply #1003 on: April 11, 2020, 10:05:31 AM »
With all today's technology there must be a way of identifying who received furlough payments and who didn't. Do this and claim it back at a slow rate until repaid.

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« Reply #1004 on: April 11, 2020, 10:07:07 AM »
I still work my 48rs on full pay.

No benefits , none of this 80%.

Why should I pay more tax bailing out our corrupt government ?

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« Reply #1005 on: April 11, 2020, 10:18:08 AM »
I still work my 48rs on full pay.

No benefits , none of this 80%.

Why should I pay more tax bailing out our corrupt government ?

What do you do? - I would really like to know your answer to the question I asked above.

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« Reply #1006 on: April 11, 2020, 10:26:43 AM »
I still work my 48rs on full pay.

No benefits , none of this 80%.

Why should I pay more tax bailing out our corrupt government ?
Why is our Government corrupt? And where is your proof to back up that statement? I have read your posts and i have come to the conclusion you really haven't got a clue what's going on concerning the cornavirus i bet you are one of these who thinks it can't touch them and continue your normal life i just hope you don't get it and pass it on to some innocent person who is doing as they have been asked.

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« Reply #1007 on: April 11, 2020, 10:36:57 AM »
Hey tuamigos,I hear what your saying but as self employed i assume you also pay a lower NI?
So why are you hard done by?
You could argue you don't pay enough into the system yourself?

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« Reply #1008 on: April 11, 2020, 10:37:47 AM »
I still work my 48rs on full pay.

No benefits , none of this 80%.

Why should I pay more tax bailing out our corrupt government ?

Having read that, one word comes to mind, selfish. At least you will be safe in the knowledge that you almost certainly have enough bog rolls to last for the rest of your life!

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« Reply #1009 on: April 11, 2020, 10:57:34 AM »
Hey Foster,
We all pay into the system like it or not.
Most things I'm happy with some not but you can't pick and choose.
Corrupt government?
Ask Corbyn about his friends in other governments about corruption.
You sound a selfish person to me mate.

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« Reply #1010 on: April 11, 2020, 11:00:10 AM »
They won't increase tax and righty so.
 
It's the governments proplem. They can't blame us or take even more money away.
You never answered my last question....but here goes a new one

Where exactly does the money come from then?
If youre going to get told off, get told off for doing something not for doing nothing..

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« Reply #1011 on: April 11, 2020, 11:01:57 AM »
Let me ask you - what would you have done or what would you do now  - supposing you had the authority? (Coronavirus19 that is)

Sorry to appear to be haranguing you, however your silence is deafening!
Here is a few more questions : why did you say that, we? all knew Boris would get better? Are we to believe that the Coronavirus is a complete hoax?
I think the Swedish PM may have thought that - he is now in the process of changing his mind.

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« Reply #1012 on: April 11, 2020, 11:04:14 AM »
Sorry to appear to be haranguing you, however your silence is deafening!
Here is a few more questions : why did you say that, we? all knew Boris would get better? Are we to believe that the Coronavirus is a complete hoax?
I think the Swedish PM may have thought that - he is now in the process of changing his mind.
You won’t get a reasoned response

He moaned because when he himself went shopping....other people had had the audacity to do likewise thus meaning he had to queue , when I asked about his hypocrisy....his next post was “is anybody enjoying the weather” 😂😂
If youre going to get told off, get told off for doing something not for doing nothing..

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« Reply #1013 on: April 11, 2020, 11:11:37 AM »
Hey tuamigos,I hear what your saying but as self employed i assume you also pay a lower NI?
So why are you hard done by?
You could argue you don't pay enough into the system yourself?
This NI lark baffles me.
I'm self employed and don't pay any NI, 2 years ago the DWP informed me i had reached the 35 qualifying years so only needed to pay voluntary contribution if I wanted to but it wouldn't increase my state pension. Problem with that is because I've paid no NI for the past two years i can't claim any benefits whatsoever.
Feel like I've been penalised because I've paid into the system all my life.
Spoke to the Tax office and DWP after they'd sent my pension forecast and was told it's pointless paying any voluntary contributions, I don't understand that stance because I thought your NI contributions went to other things such as the NHS.


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« Reply #1014 on: April 11, 2020, 11:17:17 AM »
I got told off by a few on here for blaming the government for the slow handling of supplying PPE for front line staff, Well I would ask you to read this from RCN chief executive Donna Kinnair.

"In recent days we are improving the deliveries, but the safety of nurses and doctors and other health care workers must not be compromised,” she said. “Basic equipment to deliver care must be provided.

“We are all petrified about going out on the front line but we do it because that’s what we are trained for.

“But it’s beholden on those in offices of power to make sure they are looking after our physical welfare and psychological welfare. If a nurse does not feel safe she or he is not going to be able to provide good care.”

In my opinion the government was slow to act and must take responsibility for this short fall.




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« Reply #1015 on: April 11, 2020, 11:30:31 AM »
You never answered my last question....but here goes a new one

Where exactly does the money come from then?

Government money that is already useable. They don't need any extra money of  us.

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« Reply #1016 on: April 11, 2020, 11:30:54 AM »
Hey tuamigos,I hear what your saying but as self employed i assume you also pay a lower NI?
So why are you hard done by?
You could argue you don't pay enough into the system yourself?

I've paid in all I am required to pay in regarding NI contributions. If I pay more I don't get any extra benefits. In fact I get none.
I assume that you think 40% tax is not enough to give me a little leeway?
Glad your not Chancellor
I've worked all my life, always filed true and accurate accounts (if I could see mt time again I wouldn't do that) and never claimed a penny from the government all my working life.
My fault I guess but there you go.
My old man always said 'You can't educate pork!'

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« Reply #1017 on: April 11, 2020, 11:32:00 AM »
What do you do? - I would really like to know your answer to the question I asked above.

Operational support manager for a security company(control room dealing with clients and guards who work for the company etc)

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« Reply #1018 on: April 11, 2020, 11:34:18 AM »
Operational support manager for a security company(control room dealing with clients and guards who work for the company etc)

Gatekeeper.
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« Reply #1019 on: April 11, 2020, 11:44:07 AM »
Hey Foster,same here mate, paid 40% for most of my working life and left money in the business when I could have taken it myself,your not special, but corrupt government, please

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« Reply #1020 on: April 11, 2020, 11:48:59 AM »
People say corruption is in mighty football but not happy  to accept corruption at government level..


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« Reply #1021 on: April 11, 2020, 11:56:03 AM »
You mentioned  "the government" where's your proof? Venezuela?
Ridiculous assumption I imagine you regret saying it now,you sound a little frazzled mate,have a listen to some classic Indian music that'll calm you down

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« Reply #1022 on: April 11, 2020, 12:02:10 PM »
Hey Mods - Are my posts getting deleted?

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« Reply #1023 on: April 11, 2020, 12:12:41 PM »
Coronavirus: 'Matter of time' before Italy faces a social emergency as tension starts to rise

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-the-dark-fog-is-lifting-in-italy-but-the-end-of-the-lockdown-is-clouded-by-doubt-11971340

Good luck to them. We will not be far behind you.

They are sick of being told what to do.
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