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« Reply #1875 on: June 14, 2021, 07:54:16 AM »

Unless he's got a £15 million release clause, which would be almost double what we paid for him.
if there is a release clause Dowling should be removed immediately in my book especially after what happened with Evans.

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« Reply #1876 on: June 14, 2021, 08:13:58 AM »
The local journos stated several times the new contract contained no clauses like that.

We paid €10mill, (€1 loan fee + €9 transfer according to Portuguese papers), so anything less than £25 would be terrible risk/reward ratio. Villa buying that Norwich lad for £33-40m has set the tone.

Yeah hard to argue with this, any lower than Buendia then we’re mugging ourselves off. Hopefully he’ll give us a season, don’t blame him if he doesn’t though

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« Reply #1877 on: June 14, 2021, 08:44:25 AM »
Reports that we want £20m for Johnstone and £15m Pereira would suggest that one or other the reports is bunkum given the length of contracts and difference in talent.

There are two reasons why we might sell Pereira for £15m. Firstly our financial position is dire and we need a large proportion of the fee as cash to cover immediate operating expenses. While I don't think our financial position is great and our owner has very limited ability to put funds into the club I don't think it is that bad. In any event that would apply equally to Johnstone if not more so because of the contract position so we wouldn't be demanding a premium fee for him while selling Pereira on the cheap.

The second is a release clause and £15m might not be wholly unreasonable. Remember this contract was negotiated before he joined the club and was a fringe player at Sporting earning about €6k a week for a reputation for being talented but a little wayward. At the Albion his salary went to £20k a week in the Championship and £40k a week in Premier league at the time a release clause of 15 times that salary would not have been unreasonable.

 However given that reports have precluded any release clause I suspect that if there is an offer of £15m on the table for him it is going to be left there.
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« Reply #1878 on: June 16, 2021, 10:19:41 AM »
Confirmation Pereira wont be sold for a daft fee

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2021/06/16/matheus-pereira-will-not-leave-west-brom-on-the-cheap/

"The Baggies are currently in a state of turmoil following the shock departure of sporting and technical director Luke Dowling on Monday.

Chief executive Xu Ke, meanwhile, has admitted they have faced ‘setbacks’ in their ongoing hunt for a new head coach.

But while the Baggies success on the field will rest on the appointments they make over the next few weeks, the Express & Star understands the club remains in a healthy position financially.

And that means – as well as having a very competitive Championship budget – they will not be forced into selling Pereira on the cheap.

Reports emerged over the weekend suggesting the Baggies would listen to offers in the region of £15million for their Brazilian talisman.

But the Express & Star understands that is not the case with the club’s valuation of the player significantly higher."


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« Reply #1879 on: June 16, 2021, 10:35:15 AM »
Confirmation Pereira wont be sold for a daft fee

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2021/06/16/matheus-pereira-will-not-leave-west-brom-on-the-cheap/

"The Baggies are currently in a state of turmoil following the shock departure of sporting and technical director Luke Dowling on Monday.

Chief executive Xu Ke, meanwhile, has admitted they have faced ‘setbacks’ in their ongoing hunt for a new head coach.

But while the Baggies success on the field will rest on the appointments they make over the next few weeks, the Express & Star understands the club remains in a healthy position financially.

And that means – as well as having a very competitive Championship budget – they will not be forced into selling Pereira on the cheap.

Reports emerged over the weekend suggesting the Baggies would listen to offers in the region of £15million for their Brazilian talisman.

But the Express & Star understands that is not the case with the club’s valuation of the player significantly higher."
Quick, bury this awful, positive news, it will spoil all the negativity.

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« Reply #1880 on: June 16, 2021, 10:52:23 AM »
Quick, bury this awful, positive news, it will spoil all the negativity.
People are entitled to alternative opinions to yours, so your snarky running commentary on other viewpoints is unnecessary.

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« Reply #1881 on: June 16, 2021, 11:07:59 AM »
People are entitled to alternative opinions to yours, so your snarky running commentary on other viewpoints is unnecessary.
The irony! :D
If there's a snarky running commentary going on it's the "the club's a shambles / joke / embarrassment", "League 1 here we come" "We're going to do a Sunderland" brigade  :D

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« Reply #1882 on: June 16, 2021, 11:11:47 AM »
The irony! :D
If there's a snarky running commentary going on it's the "the club's a shambles / joke / embarrassment", "League 1 here we come" "We're going to do a Sunderland" brigade  :D

Spot on. Everyone is so quick to jump to negative conclusions. Mini Meltdown in the ST thread for example.
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« Reply #1883 on: June 16, 2021, 11:48:02 AM »
There is plenty to be concerned about around the club at the moment and maybe we can't put a lot of faith in the ownership.

However you still have to apply a bit of critical reasoning to stories that appear on notoriously unreliable clickbait sites even when they get bit of traction in the equally unreliable tabloid press and amplified by social media's favourite glove puppet. Or you can lose your mind over it,  fine the choice is yours but it's going to be a long old summer if you do.

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« Reply #1884 on: June 16, 2021, 10:17:19 PM »
Spot on. Everyone is so quick to jump to negative conclusions. Mini Meltdown in the ST thread for example.

I'm extremely tired of both the clickbait rubbish out there and the general negativity on here, Jacko. I think the latter stems from how slow everything seems to be going right now and how our club is currently more Poker Faced than ever.

So much uncertainty right now of course and the general silence from the club doesn't help... whatever side of the fence any of us were on about Bilic (and I'm definitely not inviting another debate) his communication with us at first and passion were a joy to read. Actions speak louder of course.

I just want everyone to try and stay more positive... we are likely to lose two of our best players before next season but we are in a better position than most Chumps clubs to pitch our way out of it again...
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Re: Matheus Pereira
« Reply #1885 on: June 17, 2021, 08:57:23 AM »
Confirmation Pereira wont be sold for a daft fee

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2021/06/16/matheus-pereira-will-not-leave-west-brom-on-the-cheap/

"The Baggies are currently in a state of turmoil following the shock departure of sporting and technical director Luke Dowling on Monday.

Chief executive Xu Ke, meanwhile, has admitted they have faced ‘setbacks’ in their ongoing hunt for a new head coach.

But while the Baggies success on the field will rest on the appointments they make over the next few weeks, the Express & Star understands the club remains in a healthy position financially.

And that means – as well as having a very competitive Championship budget – they will not be forced into selling Pereira on the cheap.

Reports emerged over the weekend suggesting the Baggies would listen to offers in the region of £15million for their Brazilian talisman.

But the Express & Star understands that is not the case with the club’s valuation of the player significantly higher."

confirmation by who though ?

Masi knows nothing unless it's written by Percy

there is nobody in control of the football side of things at the club currently either

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« Reply #1886 on: June 17, 2021, 09:27:03 AM »
confirmation by who though ?

Masi knows nothing unless it's written by Percy

there is nobody in control of the football side of things at the club currently either

The point is that clickbait internet stories suggesting that Pereira had a £15m release clause were false.

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« Reply #1887 on: June 17, 2021, 10:17:50 AM »
confirmation by who though ?

Masi knows nothing unless it's written by Percy

there is nobody in control of the football side of things at the club currently either

I get the feeling Dowling may now be briefing Masi. The irony.
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« Reply #1888 on: June 17, 2021, 10:23:22 AM »
I get the feeling Dowling may now be briefing Masi. The irony.

Possible, but I'd imagine he's on a substantial non-disclosure clause, especially with a "Mutual Agreement" severance.
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Re: Matheus Pereira
« Reply #1889 on: June 25, 2021, 10:44:10 AM »
Grealish to Man City for £100m reportedly close. Opens up the prospect of Pereira to Villa for decent money.
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« Reply #1890 on: June 25, 2021, 10:48:32 AM »
Grealish go Man City for £100m reportedly close. Opens up the prospect of Pereira to Villa for decent money.
85 million and they can buy a space at the negotiating table. Another 15 million for the chair to sit at it. Then we can talk price for Perreira.

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« Reply #1891 on: June 25, 2021, 10:50:24 AM »
Grealish to Man City for £100m reportedly close. Opens up the prospect of Pereira to Villa for decent money.

I thought that they signed Buendia from Norwich for £33m to 'replace' Greasy..........
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« Reply #1892 on: June 25, 2021, 10:59:06 AM »
I thought that they signed Buendia from Norwich for £33m to 'replace' Greasy..........

To be honest I think that is more likely than them bidding for Pereira but if they get £100m for Grealish I suspect the money will be spent somewhere they are rumoured to be interested in Tammy Abraham and that's going cost a chunk and push Watkins out wide. Never quiet trust my read on them tactically so they could rock up with a bunch of cash I hope not I really do.
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« Reply #1893 on: June 25, 2021, 11:17:21 AM »
With new man installed maybe Pereira will stay as I've not heard any rumours that he is pushing for a move.

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« Reply #1894 on: June 25, 2021, 12:45:56 PM »
Villa also rumoured to be interested in Smith Rowe who would be another Grealish-ish replacement including the socks down look - can't see that going down well with Arsenal fans if they let him go to Villa though.
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« Reply #1895 on: June 25, 2021, 07:23:48 PM »
All very quiet with periera. Euro 2020 will have more affordable options in the shop window. Hoping it stays this way then you offer him better terms and a promotion bonus and hope he can continue last season form into the new one
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« Reply #1896 on: June 27, 2021, 06:19:11 PM »
A photo of him circulated on social media yesterday with a location tag of Lisbon...10 day quarantine required on return though you can get 5 day release and i know if it applies to elite sportists because there are double standards everywhere so who knows but I saw the photo and wondered if he was being selfish there...
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« Reply #1897 on: June 27, 2021, 08:22:56 PM »
I think I'm right in saying that Portugal went into Green area for Covid on Wednesday  and all he needs to do is take a covid test, as all the squad will do IMO.
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« Reply #1898 on: June 27, 2021, 08:53:25 PM »
I think I'm right in saying that Portugal went into Green area for Covid on Wednesday  and all he needs to do is take a covid test, as all the squad will do IMO.

Definitely still amber, I was meant to be there on holiday right now and just double checked the gov website.
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« Reply #1899 on: June 27, 2021, 08:57:51 PM »
He's exempt as an elite sportsperson.
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