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Re: Rekeem Harper
« Reply #950 on: June 24, 2021, 11:52:27 PM »
I don't think that many will have expected Chris Wood and Kemar Roofe to go on and develop the way they have.

I think Edwards, Harper and Field in that order have the ability to do similar. Sometimes it seems to need the right manager, regular game time, luck with injuries or just something to click in the brain for players to re-launch their careers. As a club we need to ask how that transition from England age groups to first team can be more productive for us.
Spot on, I sometime think coaches take the easy option of using old players and not investing in the young lads, most likely because they are under such pressure to get results at all costs, Valerien has a 4 year contract so hopefully can allocate time and resources to getting younger players transitioned into the first team
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Re: Rekeem Harper
« Reply #951 on: June 25, 2021, 07:02:45 PM »
Gone to Ipswich (undisclosed). So much for taking a look  ;D
« Last Edit: June 25, 2021, 07:05:43 PM by TheJacko2000 »
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« Reply #952 on: June 25, 2021, 07:09:46 PM »
Probably spoken to a few people and watched the compilation of his highlights; 2 minutes later, decision made  :D

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« Reply #953 on: June 25, 2021, 07:11:46 PM »
Good luck Rekeem!

Any sell-on clause?
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« Reply #954 on: June 25, 2021, 07:12:40 PM »
Good luck Rekeem!

Any sell-on clause?

OS doesn't say. Very brief. Imagine more details to come out later.

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« Reply #955 on: June 25, 2021, 07:22:19 PM »
Gone to Ipswich (undisclosed). So much for taking a look  ;D
I think this is for the best as he doesn't seem to have it in him to play in the manner that Valerien will require. All the best to him at Ipswich.

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« Reply #956 on: June 25, 2021, 07:24:19 PM »
Wages off the bill, which can only be a good thing. £500k initial plus add ons plus possibly a sell-on (not clear), from local Journos.

Plus, another £500k minimum to the tally of fees raised from Academy products.
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« Reply #957 on: June 25, 2021, 07:32:10 PM »
Good luck Rekeem, should have been given a chance by Moore and Shan who new him well from youth setup.

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« Reply #958 on: June 25, 2021, 07:34:24 PM »
Good luck Rekeem, should have been given a chance by Moore and Shan who new him well from youth setup.

Surely that's quite telling if they knew him well and still chose not to use him. Not good enough much like Field hence why none of these coaches are using them.

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« Reply #959 on: June 25, 2021, 07:38:13 PM »
I have no problem with his leaving as I don’t think he’s good enough. A little strange in terms of timing though. New coach surely has had no say either way which I do find odd.

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« Reply #960 on: June 25, 2021, 08:05:15 PM »
I have no problem with his leaving as I don’t think he’s good enough. A little strange in terms of timing though. New coach surely has had no say either way which I do find odd.
Agreed it would be strange but he has been appointed so he may well have run his eyes over footage of Harper's 1st team appearances and OK'd the deal.
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« Reply #961 on: June 25, 2021, 08:54:09 PM »
Didn't give the new manager much opportunity to cast his eye over. Maybe they are very confident about having a new creative midfielder lined up.
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« Reply #962 on: June 25, 2021, 09:09:18 PM »
It would have made more sense to delay the deal for a month to allow the new manager to assess the player. He may have seen in Harper something others haven’t. Definitely short sighted sale in my view. I hope it doesn’t come back to haunt us.

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« Reply #963 on: June 25, 2021, 09:35:03 PM »
The new manager has probably studied Harper's data already and unsurprisingly decided he wont cut it. I'd be amazed if Sawyers figures next season as well.

Sometimes you just need to look at the stats.

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« Reply #964 on: June 25, 2021, 09:39:11 PM »
The new manager has probably studied Harper's data already and unsurprisingly decided he wont cut it. I'd be amazed if Sawyers figures next season as well.

Sometimes you just need to look at the stats.

I can't see that Sawyers is going to make it under Ismael either.

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« Reply #965 on: June 25, 2021, 09:45:20 PM »
The new manager has probably studied Harper's data already and unsurprisingly decided he wont cut it. I'd be amazed if Sawyers figures next season as well.

Sometimes you just need to look at the stats.
How can you assess a player by just looking at stats? They don't give a complete picture. Also diferent players fit into different systems better.
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« Reply #966 on: June 25, 2021, 09:50:34 PM »
It just proves that the football side of things didn’t stop, like some seemed convinced of, when Dowling went.
The wheels have continued turning.
Not good enough for us in all honesty maybe this will be his break but we have given him a fantastic start.
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« Reply #967 on: June 25, 2021, 09:50:56 PM »
How can you assess a player by just looking at stats? They don't give a complete picture. Also diferent players fit into different systems better.

If, for example,  you are a manager that demands a high press or a certain distance covered in games it would be pretty clear that Sawyers and Harper are going to fall well short.

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« Reply #968 on: June 25, 2021, 10:04:35 PM »
Another academy success
It is if you see the purpose of the Academy as being to produce players of League 1 or League 2 standard. To my mind, unless players are regularly produced who become fixtures in our first team, the Academy is failing.

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« Reply #969 on: June 25, 2021, 10:14:35 PM »
If, for example,  you are a manager that demands a high press or a certain distance covered in games it would be pretty clear that Sawyers and Harper are going to fall well short.
Yes, if you took the view that players can never change or be coached.
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« Reply #970 on: June 25, 2021, 10:20:06 PM »
It is if you see the purpose of the Academy as being to produce players of League 1 or League 2 standard. To my mind, unless players are regularly produced who become fixtures in our first team, the Academy is failing.
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Re: Rekeem Harper Joins Ipswich Town
« Reply #971 on: June 25, 2021, 10:31:05 PM »
On the official site -

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/rekeem-harper-joins-ipswich

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Re: Rekeem Harper
« Reply #972 on: June 25, 2021, 10:32:39 PM »
It is if you see the purpose of the Academy as being to produce players of League 1 or League 2 standard. To my mind, unless players are regularly produced who become fixtures in our first team, the Academy is failing.

In my mind the academy’s job is to have a positive net worth and perform well in relation to academies at clubs of a similar size (in terms of players making it, not youth team results).  The net worth can either be players in our first team or players sold. 

I don’t know enough about other academies to know if our output is good comparatively, but it does seem to have a positive net worth over the past few years. 

With that said I do think harper may be a success for the academy but I do wonder if the club failed him and the academy in the early days of his pro career.


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Re: Rekeem Harper Joins Ipswich Town
« Reply #973 on: June 25, 2021, 10:36:25 PM »
Good luck Rekeem, all the best for the future.

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Re: Rekeem Harper
« Reply #974 on: June 25, 2021, 10:40:37 PM »
It is if you see the purpose of the Academy as being to produce players of League 1 or League 2 standard. To my mind, unless players are regularly produced who become fixtures in our first team, the Academy is failing.
What a load of nonsense, if that were true Man City would never buy anybody, they would just get the best kids and build a team.
Any player that comes through our academy and has a professional career is a success. The vast majority of academy players do not.