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« Reply #3175 on: July 29, 2021, 04:56:07 PM »
Are you joking? On what grounds is he a better keeper? There is a reason Johnstone was above him in the England pecking order.

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« Reply #3176 on: July 29, 2021, 05:04:36 PM »
In sum, this thread displays some double-think regarding Johnstone.  The majority thinks he's useless but still expects upwards of £10M for him!?
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« Reply #3177 on: July 29, 2021, 05:15:52 PM »
I think he could still be here this season. If Arsenal pursue Ramsdale i can't think of any other club who need another keeper.
Not one where he will be first choice. At 28 surely no player would want to spend the best part of their career watching from the sidelines. Too many good keepers are/have been paid to do nothing.

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« Reply #3178 on: July 29, 2021, 05:19:37 PM »
We really can’t afford for him to walk on a free. We need to probably take some medicine give Arsenal the sales pitch about how £9m on Johnstone and £20m to spend elsewhere is better than £30m on Ramsdale.

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« Reply #3179 on: July 29, 2021, 06:13:27 PM »
We really can’t afford for him to walk on a free. We need to probably take some medicine give Arsenal the sales pitch about how £9m on Johnstone and £20m to spend elsewhere is better than £30m on Ramsdale.
Unless we gamble on being promoted and are in a position to offer a  lucrative contract and as our first choice keeper he may well agree to a new deal.

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« Reply #3180 on: July 29, 2021, 11:14:40 PM »
Are you joking? On what grounds is he a better keeper? There is a reason Johnstone was above him in the England pecking order.

Think they are both pretty suspect but ramsdale is a better purchase due to his age.
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« Reply #3181 on: July 30, 2021, 08:29:15 AM »
Ramsdale is better than Johnstone unfortunately.

In your opinion yes. I don’t think so though.

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« Reply #3182 on: July 30, 2021, 10:58:27 AM »
I can see West Ham waiting until next summer to pick up Johnstone on a free as they have a season long loan for Areola. We have the choice of; keeping him in the hope that we get promoted and can persuade him to sign a new contract, selling him for what ever we can get this summer or risk him walking for no fee at the end of the season.

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« Reply #3183 on: July 30, 2021, 12:25:50 PM »
Ramsdale is better than Johnstone unfortunately.

Ramsdale is pretty terrible, but everyone knows your views on SJ despite all that happened last season particularly so I will not argue with you on it

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« Reply #3184 on: July 30, 2021, 12:43:36 PM »
Back for pre season training at the Albion, bet he didn't envisage that when he was with England.
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« Reply #3185 on: July 30, 2021, 12:54:52 PM »
Back for pre season training at the Albion, bet he didn't envisage that when he was with England.
To be fair to SJ I've not heard him say anything other than its up to the club. He is really in a win-win situation. He gets a big money move now or probably an even bigger one or better contract next summer.

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« Reply #3186 on: July 30, 2021, 01:57:08 PM »
To be fair to SJ I've not heard him say anything other than its up to the club. He is really in a win-win situation. He gets a big money move now or probably an even bigger one or better contract next summer.

That’s right. There has been no public displays of any negativity from him. As you say, he is in a very strong position.

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« Reply #3187 on: July 30, 2021, 02:42:55 PM »
Now that West Ham have signed the chap from PSG, I'd say its fairly unlikely he will be a no.1 for a PL club next season. We need to sell Pereira and sit SJ down and try to get him to sign a new deal with a reasonable sell clause if we don't go up
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« Reply #3188 on: July 30, 2021, 02:52:03 PM »
Now that West Ham have signed the chap from PSG, I'd say its fairly unlikely he will be a no.1 for a PL club next season. We need to sell Pereira and sit SJ down and try to get him to sign a new deal with a reasonable sell clause if we don't go up

What a disastrous summer that would be.
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« Reply #3189 on: July 30, 2021, 02:52:35 PM »
Been a major critic of SJ.

Last season he was far better than Ramsdale has ever been.

Got to be worth £15m to £20m of any prem club's money on that form alone.
Dig a bit deeper you rich robbing gits.

Being Effed about by a cockney club is par for the course though, any club south of Watford should be told give us the money now, in cash, or trot on

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« Reply #3190 on: July 30, 2021, 04:14:21 PM »
Been a major critic of SJ.

Last season he was far better than Ramsdale has ever been.

Got to be worth £15m to £20m of any prem club's money on that form alone.
Dig a bit deeper you rich robbing gits.

Being Effed about by a cockney club is par for the course though, any club south of Watford should be told give us the money now, in cash, or trot on
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« Reply #3191 on: July 30, 2021, 04:23:40 PM »
What a disastrous summer that would be.

Why? Pereira doesn't want to stay so we need to accept that and move him on. That money will fund the signings we need. Ideally we'd have got a big fee for Johnstone but his suitors are running out
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« Reply #3192 on: July 30, 2021, 05:48:05 PM »
Why? Pereira doesn't want to stay so we need to accept that and move him on. That money will fund the signings we need. Ideally we'd have got a big fee for Johnstone but his suitors are running out

Best player leaving, poor goalkeeper staying... awful.
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« Reply #3193 on: July 30, 2021, 05:54:34 PM »
Best player leaving, poor goalkeeper staying... awful.

If that happens, yes. But nothing is guaranteed in football and the transfer market is only just warming up. Ideally SJ goes for £10m odd and we keep MP for the season because nobody wants to pay more than £30m for him; when promotion is worth a lot more than that for us. Plus, let's face it, it going to be very fun to see Grady, Robinson, Grant and Pereira attacking championship teams.

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« Reply #3194 on: July 30, 2021, 06:33:55 PM »
Why? Pereira doesn't want to stay so we need to accept that and move him on. That money will fund the signings we need. Ideally we'd have got a big fee for Johnstone but his suitors are running out
Not a chance mate, most of it will be preseved I think, perhaps £10m to spend.
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« Reply #3195 on: July 30, 2021, 08:28:16 PM »
Not a chance mate, most of it will be preseved I think, perhaps £10m to spend.

Yeah I didn't mean the whole lot would go towards transfers. But currently we can't seem to afford anyone without a departure. In an ideal world of course we would keep Pereira and build a team around him, but he doesn't want to stay and it doesn't seem like our new manager even wants him. Keeping hold of unhappy players rarely works out, something we should be well aware of after Evans and Berahino
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« Reply #3196 on: July 30, 2021, 10:27:37 PM »
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Yeah. Where were the Southerners when the North and the Midlands founded the football league?

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Filling the little brown envelopes trying to get Midland and Northern lads to sign for em and setting up all expenses paid holidays abroad for the odd referee or ten. They were also suspected of being busy negotiating the provision of new cars for the families of promising youngsters on other clubs books. ;) ;) ;D 

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« Reply #3197 on: July 31, 2021, 07:40:32 AM »
Best player leaving, poor goalkeeper staying... awful.

I don't know what you're worrying about. With Townsend and Furlong the creators as marauding wing backs it's highly unlikely our goal line custodian will face balls into the box from open play on the counter to our high press.

Nothing to see here, everything will be fine whomever our number one is..... sit back, relax and enjoy the fun as our forward line helps itself to a glut of goals against inferior opponents who can't hope to compete with our wage bill.
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« Reply #3198 on: July 31, 2021, 09:52:40 AM »
Filling the little brown envelopes trying to get Midland and Northern lads to sign for em and setting up all expenses paid holidays abroad for the odd referee or ten. They were also suspected of being busy negotiating the provision of new cars for the families of promising youngsters on other clubs books. ;) ;) ;D

Damnit Wodenson, when you put it like that....
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« Reply #3199 on: July 31, 2021, 01:27:38 PM »

Being Effed about by a cockney club is par for the course though, any club south of Watford should be told give us the money now, in cash, or trot on

A cockney is someone born within hearing range of Bow bells, of the church St Mary -le-bow.  That rules out first, the majority of London, never mind a catch all for clubs south of Watford. Arguably the only true cockney club is West Ham, though Orient and Millwall come close. 
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