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Re: Sam Johnstone
« Reply #825 on: September 24, 2019, 05:09:50 PM »
Agree that we need to lay off the criticism a bit. I am not happy with SJ but hope he can work on some of his more obvious issues and become a better keeper. Perhaps he should be given bit of leeway, all keepers save some and make some mistakes that lead to goals and it seems at the moment every move he makes is being analysed by us armchair super keepers on here. I have been a critic but unless he really does throw one in I will try to refrain



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« Reply #826 on: September 24, 2019, 05:47:01 PM »
Some need to cut him some slack.

I think we overpaid for him, but he isn't terrible and is definitely not the reason we don't keep clean sheets.

I think he kept about 25 in his last season with the vilest
I think a big part of his performances at Villa was down to having JT in front of him who at that point was still one of the best defenders in Europe. It would have been a massive calming influence for him and players weren’t given the freedom to take shots from all around the box.

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« Reply #827 on: September 24, 2019, 07:23:13 PM »
Some need to cut him some slack.

I think we overpaid for him, but he isn't terrible and is definitely not the reason we don't keep clean sheets.

I think he kept about 25 in his last season with the vilest

So if he keeps a clean sheet it's down to the keeper but if he doesnt it's not down to the keeper?

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« Reply #828 on: September 25, 2019, 12:05:25 PM »
I think a big part of his performances at Villa was down to having JT in front of him who at that point was still one of the best defenders in Europe. It would have been a massive calming influence for him and players weren’t given the freedom to take shots from all around the box.
That's exactly the point I was making the other week when I posted that he'd kept around 22 clean sheets at Villa with a better defensive unit in front of him stopping the opposition having so many chances.
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« Reply #829 on: September 28, 2019, 03:24:17 PM »
Great getting a clean sheet today, especially away from home against a team scoring for fun this year.

Perhaps we should just take the keeper out of the equation every match and restrict our opponents to 0 shots on target?  :P

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« Reply #830 on: September 28, 2019, 03:32:54 PM »
Even SJ couldn't contrive conceding today.
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« Reply #831 on: September 28, 2019, 03:43:16 PM »
He seemed to be kicking the balls from hand more today than the usely playing out from the back 4

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« Reply #832 on: September 28, 2019, 05:32:57 PM »
If he has nothing to do he looks solid....
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« Reply #833 on: September 29, 2019, 10:18:25 AM »
Even SJ couldn't contrive conceding today.
Just can't help yourself can you? Absolutely no reason to come on here and criticise one of our players when the whole team played so well. Adds nothing intelligent to the discussion. Just petty.

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« Reply #834 on: September 29, 2019, 10:41:56 AM »
Just can't help yourself can you? Absolutely no reason to come on here and criticise one of our players when the whole team played so well. Adds nothing intelligent to the discussion. Just petty.

Bang on. Ridiculous comment.

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« Reply #835 on: September 29, 2019, 03:46:29 PM »
Just can't help yourself can you? Absolutely no reason to come on here and criticise one of our players when the whole team played so well. Adds nothing intelligent to the discussion. Just petty.


Not remotely critical? A wry observation that it's hard to concede if the opposition don't have a shot on target.
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« Reply #836 on: September 29, 2019, 07:55:47 PM »

Not remotely critical? A wry observation that it's hard to concede if the opposition don't have a shot on target.
You're being disingenuous and you know full well that you are. You never miss an opportunity to criticise the guy, no matter how he or the team plays. Same with Livermore and Bartley.

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« Reply #837 on: September 29, 2019, 08:30:23 PM »
You're being disingenuous and you know full well that you are. You never miss an opportunity to criticise the guy, no matter how he or the team plays. Same with Livermore and Bartley.


Thanks for telling me my thought process when posting, not sure how I've got by without your input previously...
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« Reply #838 on: September 29, 2019, 10:11:13 PM »
Thats enough thanks guys , back to SJ please
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« Reply #839 on: September 29, 2019, 10:16:57 PM »
I’m not his biggest fan, but I seriously hope the clean sheet gives him some confidence...another one vs Leeds would be very nice too.
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Re: Sam Johnstone
« Reply #840 on: October 01, 2019, 08:34:56 PM »
Useless isn’t he

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« Reply #841 on: October 01, 2019, 10:16:29 PM »
Jury’s our for me but I’ll admit he kept us in it tonight. Well done SJ.

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« Reply #842 on: October 01, 2019, 10:30:08 PM »
Useless isn’t he
Not sure anybody has said he was?
Clean sheet Saturday, very good game tonight , hope he keeps it up
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« Reply #843 on: October 01, 2019, 10:46:25 PM »
Double save was good. Rest was regulation, and again didn't dive for the goal.
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« Reply #844 on: October 01, 2019, 11:00:17 PM »
Double save was good. Rest was regulation, and again didn't dive for the goal.
Is that a serious criticism or just a pointless observation?

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« Reply #845 on: October 01, 2019, 11:01:03 PM »
Always been a good shot stopper but anything low to his right or left he struggles with. Not the finished article and needs to improve on his distribution as well as commanding his box

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« Reply #846 on: October 01, 2019, 11:22:33 PM »
Is that a serious criticism or just a pointless observation?


Not a criticism in isolation, but every goal we concede seems to be accompanied by him standing stock still flat footed watching it go in.
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« Reply #847 on: October 01, 2019, 11:30:05 PM »

Not a criticism in isolation, but every goal we concede seems to be accompanied by him standing stock still flat footed watching it go in.
Probably because it wasn't going in until Bartley deflected the ball. He would have needed the reflexes of Superman to get near that.

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« Reply #848 on: October 01, 2019, 11:41:49 PM »

Not a criticism in isolation, but every goal we concede seems to be accompanied by him standing stock still flat footed watching it go in.
Are you apportioning SJ with any blame for the Leeds goal?  ::)

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« Reply #849 on: October 01, 2019, 11:50:46 PM »
Probably because it wasn't going in until Bartley deflected the ball. He would have needed the reflexes of Superman to get near that.

But isn't that why keepers dive anyway, even if they think it's going wide?  If there's somem spin, or a deflection, etc, then they're on their way.

Just to be clear, i do not blame SJ for the goal tonight.  I thought he had one of his better games.  We still had to head too many clear from practically under his cross bar, and he needs to work on pushing the ball out of the danger zone and not into it. 

It's an observation that I've never seen a keeper concede so many and be nowhere near the ball.