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One of the real problems with the current Premier League VAR guidelines highlighted in the Liverpool-Palace game there.

For those who havent seen it, with the match poised at 2-1, Diego Jota has gone through on an angle while under pressure from the defender and the keeper coming out. He appears to try to chip the keeper but makes a poor connection and the ball trickles out of play. After taking the touch however, he takes a step inside towards the oncoming keeper and both make contact with each other chest to chest before Jota goes down.

Carragher on commentary dismissed it after seeing the replay as no foul, real time on twitter every journalist I follow state it is surely unlikely to be overturned by VAR, however after a disproportionatley long VAR check they send the ref to view the monitor where Friend then decides to change his decision.

Apart from a minority of Liverpool fans on twitter who argue it would be given outside the box (I have real doubts it would, it would be soft outside the box let alone in it), most people feel there just wasn't enough evidence of a foul, and yet after viewing a slow mo replay for 4 minutes, a decision was made that there was contact and so it's a penalty.

In rugby league, VAR is used in such a way that there has to be clear evidence that the ref got it wrong, really clear evidence, before they overturn the decision. It's weighted in the refs favour and anything borderline shouldn't really be over turned. I can't help but feel if we tweaked the ground rules for over turning a decision, soft piddly VAR checks like that one would be done away with. Instead, Liverpool benefit from VAR again for a very debatable decision.

Jota takes a side ways step in to the keeper as you say, clearly trying to cause contact and win a penalty. It’s as bad as a dive. He should be booked. Bet Klopp will be quiet about this one.

 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Button to continue?
« on: Today at 03:28:07 PM »
If Johnstone is going to be here I’d play him.

Button hasn’t had much to do in three games although he should have saved Brighton’s first imo. They might make it harsh to take him out, but that’s the way I’d go.

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3 CBs was a total waste of player resources yesterday Clarke was on the left-wing half the time like a spare part when we could have had CR in a free role.

Thats not happened every game but VI clearly saw this yesterday and changed it. Not so it would change the system specifically, but so a player would be on who’s attributes matched the space they were occupying.

Yesterdays result is long over due. A bit more composure and we could have done that to a couple of sides recently. Sadly we haven’t, and it seems many fans have made up their minds up, but they way some turned on VI during the game was disappointing. . Our home form has certainly been pretty good.(best ppg in the division)

Hopefully we can win on Wednesday but it is away games where we need to turn the tide. From memory Bilic had to go and get a win at Millwall under a bit of pressure and hopefully VI can do the same.

9 points from 9 in 8 days would go some way to getting fans back on side.


 


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: Yesterday at 06:15:05 PM »
Arguably could and should have been double figures . Credit to VI to as I’m willing to bet when Dike went off many on here would have bought Robinson on but VI went for Diangana who proved his boss right and was the catalyst for the last 20 mins

Certainly don’t think P’Boro could had any complaints had it been 2 or 3 at half time.

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We’ve conceded the fewest goals by 20%.
Only one side has lost less than us.
We are unbeaten at home.

Those are all facts.

In addition, we are rarely the worst side in our own matches. Two / three of our defeats have occurred when we have been the better side. That’s subjective, but I think it’s fair.

Confidence has been hit, we’ve missed big chances and often in the final third we have been poor. That needs to improve but I genuinely feel that’s something we will see. I’d be far more concerned if we were conceeding a lot and being dominated.

Graham Potter had a very similar problem with Brighton at one point and he’s one of the most highly rated managers in the country.

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Again, it was just a needless risk taken in my view.

It wasn’t needless. We needed to win and it was a decision made to help us win.

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VI did say he had a four week plan, but it’s week three, not day three.

I doubt he’d have played 90 if he hadn’t good injured stretching for something.

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I'm saying he didn't need too IMO. Another 30 mins would have been better. You need to build players sharpness up.

Team struggling for goals doesn’t need to start it’s new big money striker after three weeks? Not having that.


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Why am i? I suggested he (Dike) play 30 minutes today. He only got 30 minutes last game remember which i think was wise. You need to ease them into it after not playing for a while.

He rushed Mowatt back and then he was out for 4 weeks in his first game back.

He only played 50. We’ve hardly ran him in to the ground.

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We played well today.

It took until late in the game to make the breakthrough but we created some really good chances and crossing was generally much better.

We need to hope Dike’s injury isn’t too bad because he’ll do damage at this level. Also lets hope the old Grady Diangana is back. He has as much chance to transform us as Dike does.  Grant, Dike, Grady on Form could be as good as anything in this division.

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He’s had three weeks training as a young fit athlete. That’s a freak injury which is nothing to do with Val playing him.

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It wasn’t the change of tactics, it was taking a chance that changed the game. At 1-0 Peterborough had to push up and it left space in behind.

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Said it in a previous comment, whether we snatch it or not, changes nothing in terms of us being consistently poor going forward.

Fickle fans singing now after booing at half time, even though nothing has changed in the way we play.

Nothing wrong with how we’ve played today at all. Dominated and created multiple decent chances. P’boro don’t have to kick the ball in for us.


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Bit of luck we’ve deserved today.

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We haven't been as dominant as this all season, but quality of final ball still poor.  Lots of high outswinging crosses, but maybe that's what Dike's looking for.


Dike has had two really good chances and one half chance. I don’t think he could ask for much more. If he keeps getting those sort of chances I think he’ll make a huge difference.

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Not a long wrong with that half, created three or four good chances we were just unable to score which is nothing new.

Totally uncalled for booing.

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Reach doesn’t like a challenge so I don’t like him centrally.  He may have a better forward pass though than Molumby or TGH which I can only assume is the reason VI has gone for him.

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General Football & Sports / Re: Transfer Window Watch (Non Albion)
« on: Yesterday at 08:43:55 AM »
Tottenham and Wolves have agreed a €24m fee for the transfer of Adama Traoré.

Bergwin is better and they seem to want him out. Don’t understand some clubs at times.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: January 21, 2022, 03:31:29 PM »
I've always wanted VI to succeed, as I do any manager. However some of the stuff I'm reading from fans at the moment really is increasing my hope that he gets things right and things click.

Lets hope it can start with West Brom 5-0 Peterborough tomorrow with a Dike brace.   

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: January 21, 2022, 03:07:10 PM »
Admittedly I've not been all over the Derby stories, but I've seen bits and pieces.

I also don't have much sympathy for Derby, but this idea Boro want £40m for missing out on the play offs is surely ridiculous. They would not have made £40m if they had gone up, it would probably have taken 4/5 five years of survival (minimum) for them to achieve that. There is just no reasonably claim for £40m at all in my view.

Wycombe's claim would seem much fairer, but I am sure if its for a much lower amount. 

Derby beat us twice that season and Leeds beat Derby twice. Take out those results, we finish 3rd and perhaps our play off story is different. Maybe we should sue for £40m too.





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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Albion Analytics
« on: January 21, 2022, 01:03:43 PM »
Almost every stat and analysis just further identifies how poor we are in the final third.

If this can be remedied we should be on for a good second half of the season. I appreciate Dike is only one player, but that is 33% of our front three and the affect of a good striker shouldn't be underestimated, nor should confidence.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: January 21, 2022, 10:23:04 AM »
No problem with the positivity at all. What do people expect him to say the day before the game?

However I agree that blaming missing players is ridiculous. We have only missed Kipre, Mowatt and Johnstone for one league game and every club gets injuries (which we haven't been hit hard with this season). 

Normally the things VI has said away from a matchday have been spot on, but this stuff about missing players is silly.



 


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: January 20, 2022, 12:47:55 PM »
I have my doubts that a manual scouting network is needed anymore, certainly not to identify players at first team level.
There are a number of global & national databases of players, which can be interrogated from a PC.

It would make sense to have a couple of people to look at players when they have been identified, but covid has prevented overseas travel for the last 2 years.

At academy level, Steve Hopcroft (poached by Villa & upset by Dowling) was the main guy who identified young prospects. I would hope that he's been replaced.

I'd agree to some extent. More than ever you can access stats and video footage but I do think you need some boots on the ground. People with local knowledge will be aware of players far sooner than they achieve wider attention, particularly for players who aren't strikers or creative players who can't just put up good numbers. How do you know who to look at footage for otherwise. 

I'm always find it interesting just how infrequently players can be involved with the ball in a match too. So much of being a good player is what you do off the ball and position.  Some of that is difficult to assess in footage unless there are video's out there that specifically follow players for an entire game, but from a wide angle.






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Last Match Forum - 22/01 Peterborough United (H) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: January 20, 2022, 11:29:42 AM »
Is Saturday must win? 

I know some feel VI won't be going anywhere given we've just back him with Dike, but I always feel 10 games can change everything in football and our last 10 games will be pretty grim reading if we were to lose to Peterborough. I think the ground will be very toxic at full time if that happens too.


I don't think it will happen mind. I think we will win and win comfortably, aided by scoring early. Someone is due to get a pasting, even if by the luck of it coming together for us on a single day rather than a more generally turning of a corner.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: January 20, 2022, 11:20:14 AM »
I went on OS to see if I could find the chief scout on the management team but couldn't find such a role.
Is Ian Pearce the chief scout and if so is he a Val appointee?
If not if he's trying to execute a root and branch transformation should the guy Pearce go rather than Val?

I believe Ian Pearce is Head of Recruitment. I imagine we have a Chief / Head / Senior scout but that it is another role that reports in to him. Its not impossible Head of Recruitment is a glorified term for it, but it sounds like it may incorporate a little more than a traditional head scout would.

Definitely not a VI appointee. Dowling appointed him.

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