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« Reply #300 on: May 13, 2014, 11:32:55 PM »
Reported him to the board for not being hands on? Are you kidding me? He's head coach. The name even suggests that aside from training sessions and the game, they're in charge of other coaches who then train the players. How petty to report him. There's different managerial styles out there and they don't like any of them.
If it makes you feel better, I remember Chelsea were having similar complaints from players.

 RDM is very aloof of the team and not very approachable, making it difficult to learn his way as obviously his assistants (Eddie Newton at this time) had their own ideas that would, consciously or not, change the way they played to Robbie's original plan, In a way he'd tell the no 2 to teach "something", no2 teaches it but with subtle changes that he thinks are right (stuff like "a bit to the left" or "mark a little closer"), RDM see's them play, says their wrong but doesn't say what he wants and the cycle continues.

Kinda like Mel, The whole reason Mcdonough was telling the players what to do was because he was "interpreting" what Mel wanted.

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« Reply #301 on: May 13, 2014, 11:39:51 PM »
Ruled Jones out and Sherwood. Also spoke about RDM and said that players reported him to the board for not being hands on. Compared Clarke and Mels seasons and said they were very similar. That is all I caught of it really to be honest, missed the first bit.

Why rule Sherwood out?! He has a bit of a growing support on twitter
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« Reply #302 on: May 13, 2014, 11:45:32 PM »
Why rule Sherwood out?! He has a bit of a growing support on twitter

CL has said he is too outspoken and is one of those characters that wouldn't get on with JP. Also pointed out that JP has never appointed anyone of a fiery nature.
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« Reply #303 on: May 13, 2014, 11:48:25 PM »
If it makes you feel better, I remember Chelsea were having similar complaints from players.

 RDM is very aloof of the team and not very approachable, making it difficult to learn his way as obviously his assistants (Eddie Newton at this time) had their own ideas that would, consciously or not, change the way they played to Robbie's original plan, In a way he'd tell the no 2 to teach "something", no2 teaches it but with subtle changes that he thinks are right (stuff like "a bit to the left" or "mark a little closer"), RDM see's them play, says their wrong but doesn't say what he wants and the cycle continues.

Kinda like Mel, The whole reason Mcdonough was telling the players what to do was because he was "interpreting" what Mel wanted.

Also got to wonder why RDM has not been approached since his Chelsea sacking. Still getting paid from what I can gather but if he was that good someone would have taken a punt. I'm sure Chelsea would give any move their blessing just to get him off the payroll.

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« Reply #304 on: May 13, 2014, 11:52:53 PM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-boss-tim-sherwood-sacked-3536722

Considering the Spurs players reportedly went to the board and demanded Sherwood was sacked or they'd leave, I really, really don't think he's what we need.

A strong coach yes, but you can be strong without upsetting everybody along the way as Sherwood seemed to do. It's pretty naive to go out slagging off your employer and players in public too, there's only one way that's going to end.
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« Reply #305 on: May 13, 2014, 11:55:00 PM »
If it makes you feel better, I remember Chelsea were having similar complaints from players.

 RDM is very aloof of the team and not very approachable, making it difficult to learn his way as obviously his assistants (Eddie Newton at this time) had their own ideas that would, consciously or not, change the way they played to Robbie's original plan, In a way he'd tell the no 2 to teach "something", no2 teaches it but with subtle changes that he thinks are right (stuff like "a bit to the left" or "mark a little closer"), RDM see's them play, says their wrong but doesn't say what he wants and the cycle continues.

Kinda like Mel, The whole reason Mcdonough was telling the players what to do was because he was "interpreting" what Mel wanted.
 


this wouldn't be the same chelsea players who saw themselves as being bigger than scolari, villas boas etc - different club same problem in my opinion.  Players think they are more important than the club
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« Reply #306 on: May 14, 2014, 12:00:43 AM »
Has to be someone playing expansive attractive football. I remember being very impressed by Swansea coming to the Albion under Laudrup. Also, Frank de Boer or Ronald Koeman, who are both free now, are very successful coaches playing attractive football, but expect they want a club playing in European cups. They would suit JP as they prefer developing the youth rather than big transfer fees.

I'm not sure about any of the British candidates. Sherwood is still learning, but he has a decent record and plays attractive football.
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« Reply #307 on: May 14, 2014, 12:15:28 AM »
Also got to wonder why RDM has not been approached since his Chelsea sacking. Still getting paid from what I can gather but if he was that good someone would have taken a punt. I'm sure Chelsea would give any move their blessing just to get him off the payroll.

He's picking up £130k a week for not working. Why on earth would he give that up?

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« Reply #308 on: May 14, 2014, 12:58:29 AM »
Anyone considered a player-manager, someone like, say, Luiz Suarez?!

Ok, a daft idea and a bit of a joke, but this is my first post on the Forum, and in deepest west Cornwall I'm not completely au fait with all the latest shenanigans going on around B74 (the media down here just tend to focus on Truro City!).

But seriously, I do remember us doing rather well with Jonny Giles as player-manager...

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« Reply #309 on: May 14, 2014, 01:10:29 AM »
Anyone considered a player-manager, someone like, say, Luiz Suarez?!

Ok, a daft idea and a bit of a joke, but this is my first post on the Forum, and in deepest west Cornwall I'm not completely au fait with all the latest shenanigans going on around B74 (the media down here just tend to focus on Truro City!).

No kidding; B74 is Sutton Coldfield  ;)

The era of player-managers seemed to grind to a bit of a halt in the Nineties, and I think in top flight football particularly these days you need someone able to watch from the sidelines and see the bigger tactical picture.  Plus our last player-manager was Brian Talbot, and that one didn't go as well as Giles  ;D
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« Reply #310 on: May 14, 2014, 01:13:10 AM »
That worries me that CL refused to rule out Downing. I'm sure the players would love that appointment. We need someone with experience now.

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« Reply #311 on: May 14, 2014, 03:30:00 AM »
First let me say I am completely OOTK ( out of the know)
Based on the list of candidates we compiled and my hugely scientific  ;) reasons:

got it good where he is
wants to spend big money
no premier experience
too outspoken
dream on if we can get him
will upset JP
Poor premier record

I could only come up with the following survivors....
Jol
McDermott
McIness
Downing
Phelan
and I'll throw in Wilkins and Adkins

Long shots would be McCarthy,Zola, Rosler,Garcia

I don't see us attracting European managers after the Pepe debacle and our spending habits or lack thereof will deter most of the remainder. I'm sure we could argue others could be eliminated for similar reasons but I started looking in the cupboard and it was getting low on  candidates.

Can't wait for this to be over!!!





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« Reply #312 on: May 14, 2014, 03:31:56 AM »
Silly me of course theres Appleton, Mowbray and RDM :o

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« Reply #313 on: May 14, 2014, 04:22:31 AM »
Tony Popovic for me, has done wonders at Western Sydney Wanderers. Also, 6' 4" a giant of a man with a temperement to suit. Heard he's heading over there for discussions possibly at Norwich. Hope he pops into the Hawthorns for a looksy.
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« Reply #314 on: May 14, 2014, 04:59:21 AM »
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tottenham-boss-tim-sherwood-sacked-3536722

Considering the Spurs players reportedly went to the board and demanded Sherwood was sacked or they'd leave, I really, really don't think he's what we need.

A strong coach yes, but you can be strong without upsetting everybody along the way as Sherwood seemed to do. It's pretty naive to go out slagging off your employer and players in public too, there's only one way that's going to end.

I was warming to a Sherwood appointment until I read this Mirror story. Now, I think we should forget such an appointment and look to someone of the ilk of Adkins, McClaren or Clement.
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« Reply #315 on: May 14, 2014, 05:27:53 AM »
Tony Popovic for me, has done wonders at Western Sydney Wanderers. Also, 6' 4" a giant of a man with a temperement to suit. Heard he's heading over there for discussions possibly at Norwich. Hope he pops into the Hawthorns for a looksy.

Can't see it happening at the baggies but a good shout he will do well cutting his teeth in the championship. Tough bloke and good manager.

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« Reply #316 on: May 14, 2014, 05:57:42 AM »
Steve Clarke: did a decent job at a team called West Brom until he was sacked.
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« Reply #317 on: May 14, 2014, 06:47:53 AM »
After hearing Lepkowski on Talksport last night I'm more convinced than ever that it will be Keith Downing. I think he'd be keen on the role now and he'd be the players choice. No one else will touch us with a barge pole.

I also agree with CL that it's very unlikely we'll appoint a foreign coach this time round. I've put money on Downing to ease the pain when he's appointed.
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« Reply #318 on: May 14, 2014, 07:04:01 AM »
After hearing Lepkowski on Talksport last night I'm more convinced than ever that it will be Keith Downing. I think he'd be keen on the role now and he'd be the players choice. No one else will touch us with a barge pole.

I also agree with CL that it's very unlikely we'll appoint a foreign coach this time round. I've put money on Downing to ease the pain when he's appointed.

If that's the case, not even God can help us.
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« Reply #319 on: May 14, 2014, 07:41:32 AM »
After hearing Lepkowski on Talksport last night I'm more convinced than ever that it will be Keith Downing. I think he'd be keen on the role now and he'd be the players choice. No one else will touch us with a barge pole.

I also agree with CL that it's very unlikely we'll appoint a foreign coach this time round. I've put money on Downing to ease the pain when he's appointed.

Surely he'd already be in by now if that was the case?!
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« Reply #320 on: May 14, 2014, 07:51:15 AM »
Surely he'd already be in by now if that was the case?!

Maybe we will do the usual five weeks off faffing only to appoint Downing therafter claiming he was always number one choice of the board.

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« Reply #321 on: May 14, 2014, 08:09:22 AM »
I really hope its not Keith Downing and the club show a bit more ambition to get someone with experience at this level. I would be very very worried about next season if he does get the job.
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« Reply #322 on: May 14, 2014, 09:20:25 AM »
I really hope its not Keith Downing and the club show a bit more ambition to get someone with experience at this level. I would be very very worried about next season if he does get the job.

I would be more than worried if Downing were appointed. However i am clinging to the same - possibly delusional - hope that i am about the possible appointment of Dave Jones. And that is that even JP would not be that daft. For one thing Jp is not a stupid man (although some of the decisions he has presided over in the last 12 months are disguising that rather well) - and whilst there is generally a shocking contempt shown for the supporters by the cub which is worse now than at any time in my 40 odd years as a supporter - JP must know that an incendiary appointment like Jones or appointing someone at the heart of the shocking events of the past 18 months would be just bonkers. If nothing else it would would reduce the value of his "investment"

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« Reply #323 on: May 14, 2014, 09:22:03 AM »
Quick poll......

Dave Jones or Keith Downing?  ???

Would have to be Dave for me.

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« Reply #324 on: May 14, 2014, 09:26:17 AM »
Quick poll......

Dave Jones or Keith Downing?  ???

Would have to be Dave for me.

Is there a 'throw yourself off a bridge' option?