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Leicester City v West Bromwich Albion
Thursday 22nd April 2021 20.00pm
Please use this board for all your After Match Debate. Away fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
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Leicester City v West Bromwich Albion
Thursday 22nd April 2021 20.00pm
Please use this board for all your In Game Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules
Please keep this board Albion related, there are boards elsewhere in General Sports to discuss other games
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Leicester City v West Bromwich Albion
Thursday 22nd April 2021 20.00pm
Please use this board for all your Pre Match Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules
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Dare we hope?
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Dare we hope?
It's the hope that kills you.
We do do well against the big teams away though...
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Hope Leicester beat Southampton at the weekend as they may drop their focus a bit on the league.
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Extra time and penalties would be nice, with several minor injuries of about 2 weeks treatmwnt each for Leciester & Vardy sent off.
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Difficult game, but a huge one for us. No Barnes thankfully. Fingers crossed.
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didn't Leicester do it to us when they managed to stay up the season before they won the prem
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didn't Leicester do it to us when they managed to stay up the season before they won the prem
The Jeff Astle game.
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If nothing else then just don’t let that $**# Vardy score and celebrate against us again.
Can’t stand him and his wind up merchant celebration, particularly against us.
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Attack them from the off, don't let them settle. An early goal for us ill put them under huge pressure.
Foxes are much better away than home, suits their counter-attack.
Leicester 1 Albion 3 is my prediction.
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Traditionally a happy hunting ground for us. Even got a good solid 2-2 draw there the season they won the league.
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The Jeff Astle game.
I was there, seemed so positive at first, it quickly turned. I was so mad at Pulis. Never went again while he was our manager.
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Let’s focus on the cup game at their place about 10 years ago.
That was a superb evening 8)
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Let’s focus on the cup game at their place about 10 years ago.
That was a superb evening 8)
Indeed, was that the game we made a ****load of changes (maybe 9 or 10) and their keeper made a balls up of a long ball and dropped it at Tchoyi's feet . 4-1 in the end?
If I remember rightly we seemed to be in control and then Shorey scored an og. Think Cox got 2 that night but can't remember the other scorer...Bednar maybe?
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Referee: Andrew Madley
Assistant Referee: Simon Long
Assistant Referee: Timothy Wood
Fourth Official: Michael Dean
Video Assistant Referee: Martin Atkinson
Additional Video Assistant Referee: Dan Cook
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lot changed since then, they are quality now, we are still carp though!
3-1 Albion !
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The FA can only have a few refs available. Michael Dean again.
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So Leicester, a few years ago - were basically where we were but bottom. The following season they won the league. Just imagine that?! Their fans must have been thinking they were dreaming!
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Let’s focus on the cup game at their place about 10 years ago.
That was a superb evening 8)
One of my favourite away game nights that was.
Superb evening.
Giles Barnes was outstanding in that game.
Anything like that again and I’ll be happy
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Indeed, was that the game we made a ****load of changes (maybe 9 or 10) and their keeper made a balls up of a long ball and dropped it at Tchoyi's feet . 4-1 in the end?
If I remember rightly we seemed to be in control and then Shorey scored an og. Think Cox got 2 that night but can't remember the other scorer...Bednar maybe?
Reid I think scored at the back post from a corner
Cox scored a belter too
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I was there the last time we beat Leicester. Sunday November 6th 2016. Cracking away day, on the lash before and after the game. Pity we can't be there but it's high time we beat them again. COYB 8) .
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Reid I think scored at the back post from a corner
Cox scored a belter too
Yes indeed, October 2010, Conrad Logan in goal for them. Their side unrecognisable from what they have these days honestly. Reliant on Andy king and bang average players back then
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The 2 1 with a injury hit Mowbray side lives in the memory , think we had Pele , Martis , Steele and Hodgkiss play that day .
Late Beattie winner from distance ! .
Be very interested to see how we approach this .
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The 2 1 with a injury hit Mowbray side lives in the memory , think we had Pele , Martis , Steele and Hodgkiss play that day .
Late Beattie winner from distance ! .
Be very interested to see how we approach this .
Ginger beatie curler special!
Anyway I was hoping Leicester might have a cup final reaching hangover however Leicester will be right up for this any points deductions for the traitors and they could well be favourites to win the title again
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The FA can only have a few refs available. Michael Dean again.
Don't think it's got much of anything to do with the FA as such, it's the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL) (which is funded by EPL,EFL and FA).
There are 65 select group officials. 19 of which are Select group 1 referees the rest are either select group 1 assistant refs or select group 2 referees.
https://www.premierleague.com/referees/index
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The Mighty Baggies will demolish Leicester in the same manner we thrashed traitorous Chelski.
We’re on a roll boys!
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Would play a back 3 tomorrow with Ajayi in to match Vardy’s pace, although much improved don’t think our 4 man defence is good enough when you against 2 up top.
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Would play a back 3 tomorrow with Ajayi in to match Vardy’s pace, although much improved don’t think our 4 man defence is good enough when you against 2 up top.
I think he may well.do this, not sure about going at it from the off, that will suit them, I suspect it will be more like don't concede early and look to go for it second half. I'm probably talking rubbish though.
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To get BT Sport or not...3 Baggies games coming up including tonights. Champions League semis. hmmmm!
I feel we're going to win tonight. Goddamnit I've developed confidence in this lot.
3-1!
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Would play a back 3 tomorrow with Ajayi in to match Vardy’s pace, although much improved don’t think our 4 man defence is good enough when you against 2 up top.
Last thing we should be doing is changing the system or the personnel to negate the opposition. Let them think about us. Play to our strengths.
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Game is 5am Sydney time but I’m hoping to watch it even though my wife and son will be sound asleep as well as my sister-in-law who is staying over.
I definitely think we can win but it’ll be nervous to watch.
Another win and another step closer to safety.
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Think we will win this but a point wouldn't be a bad result if we could back that up with wins against Seals and Dingles.
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Last thing we should be doing is changing the system or the personnel to negate the opposition. Let them think about us. Play to our strengths.
Agreed Sir!
Not doing this has cost us a good few points this season, and is a part of the reasons we are where we are. COYB get this job done! 🁧
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I think we will either go:
Johnstone
Furlong O'shea Bartley Townsend
Phillips Yokuslu Maitland-N Robinson
Pereira Diagne
or as someone said above we may go three at the back to add an extra man in centre midfield due to the way Leicester are likely to line up:
Johnstone
Ajayi O'shea Bartley
Furlong Townsend
Yokuslu
Gallagher Maitland Niles
Pereira Diagne.
Possibly drop Pereira slightly deeper into a top of a diamond role?
Will be interesting to see how Allardyce goes here.
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It will as others have said, be interesting to see how we line up. Leicester can break at frightening speed and we have to be mindful of that whilst maintaining enough attacking options to try to win the game. Vardy always worries me I have to say.
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Don't mess around with the current formula that is working so well.
Up and at 'em Albion..
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Must win game for me if we have any chance of staying up a draw is no good it would just keep the gap at eight points which it was before the Chelsea game and though we have been playing well we will have made no impact into cutting the deficit.
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Try not to chop and change what has worked well in last few games. Players take time to re-adjust. Don't play too deep, but don't let Vardy exploit space in behind.
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It's Iheanacho we need to worry about. Vardy is on a bit of a slump. This means he'll definitely score against us!
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Maybe we need Ajayi in the back line for his pace?
Leicester are no longer a plucky little side. They have several on their bench that we wouldn't mind playing in our first team (cf Choudhury). It's going to be difficult to get anything out of this; let's hope we just play positively.
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Leicester are no mugs, obviously need a win but i think this will be a draw.
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Really looking forward to this COYB
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Don’t hold the same confidence as others that O’Shea & Bartley can deal with their front 2, also they play 3 centre halves so be good to see Diagne & MP right up there.
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Don’t hold the same confidence as others that O’Shea & Bartley can deal with their front 2, also they play 3 centre halves so be good to see Diagne & MP right up there.
If anything Ajayi is more likely to make a rick than shore up the defence. In turn it removes the fluidity and/or solidity in midfield (depending who makes way) that we have deployed impressively in the last 2 games.
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If anything Ajayi is more likely to make a rick than shore up the defence. In turn it removes the fluidity and/or solidity in midfield (depending who makes way) that we have deployed impressively in the last 2 games.
I do agree. You don't want a loss of concentration with Vardy around.
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Same starting XI as last game.
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Thankfully we're unchanged.
In red and yellow though :'(
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Don’t hold the same confidence as others that O’Shea & Bartley can deal with their front 2, also they play 3 centre halves so be good to see Diagne & MP right up there.
Okay does the business with AMN and Vardy and Co will be starved of opportunity's.
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Come on Albion, at least keep it interesting and the likes of Burnley worried
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I'm going to predict another loss! We all know what happened the last 2 times!
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Hmmmm, midfield is going to be a battle.
Maddison inbetween the lines means Okay will have to drop, giving space to Tielemans. Pereira will have to out a shift in
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I love this away kit - glad to see that we’re unchanged.
I think tonight will effectively seal our fate, but all we can ask is that they give their all as they have done over the last few weeks.
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Tielemans is one of the best midfielders about. He's got tremendous vision with his passing range. And Maddison isn't bad.
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I love this away kit - glad to see that we’re unchanged.
I think tonight will effectively seal our fate, but all we can ask is that they give their all as they have done over the last few weeks.
Yes.
I just hope our team are not as nervous as I am.
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Tielemans is one of the best midfielders about. He's got tremendous vision with his passing range. And Maddison isn't bad.
Excellent footballer is Tielemans. Makes the game look easy
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We're away.
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SJ saves us.
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Townsend mistake.
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SORT IT OUT!
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Fantastic Sam Johnstone. Shocking Townsend.
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Great save from SJ, shocking defending.
Digane should have scored, air shot from 6 yards out.
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Townsend...Christ
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Fantastic Sam Johnstone. Shocking Townsend.
I think if Iheanacho had gone down on contact with Sam it sould well have been a pen, and Sam off.
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Wow bit wide open here
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AMN looks in trouble
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Diagne's air shot gets worse every time I see it. Completely misses the ball for a tap in.
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Maitland-Niles down.
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He's up and OK now at moment
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Our passing is rubbish.
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Need 3 in the middle of the park here
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What is Okay doing there? Great defending from Furlong.
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Okay that was not OK
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Good block Furlong
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First big mistake from Yokuslu
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Need 3 in the middle of the park here
We need to stop passing it straight to them.
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Going back a couple of minutes, that was brilliant by Sam Johnstone, reacting to the heavy touch and coming out to scupper a near certain goal.
I've said before that I feel the prem suits him as he is less exposed to balls into the box, but what he did there was something he hasn't really shown in his time here. Suggests real improvement.
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Now excellent Furlong after a woeful pass from YokuÅŸlu. Sort it Baggies!!
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We can’t keep giving the ball away in dangerous positions and expect get away with it
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Okay we’ve had some warnings, time to wake up, slow things down and do simple things.
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Going back a couple of minutes, that was brilliant by Sam Johnstone, reacting to the heavy touch and coming out to scupper a near certain goal.
I've said before that I feel the prem suits him as he is less exposed to balls into the box, but what he did there was something he hasn't really shown in his time here. Suggests real improvement.
Yes. That was world class stuff from him. Most keepers would’ve given away a penalty there
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We've looked OK apart from the 2 bits where we gave the ball away cheaply.
Diagne having a mare so far, he's just let the ball roll under his boot now after promising build up play.
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Poor mental focus here. Switching off too much.
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We aren't at it, here
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The defence is making me jittery already
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A few players need a kick up the backside here
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67% possession to them
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Vardy scores.
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All over the shop
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Townsend caught out of position again. He slips but shouldn't have been sucked in like he was.
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VAR says goal
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Shocking so far, a yard off it all over
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Why no replay showing the VAR decision though? Not saying its wrong but unusual not to see it drawn up
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Townsend is having a stinker tonight
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Really poor so far.
Vardy really loves playing against us doesn't he.
Leicester have 2 players on 15 goals for the season with 6 and a 1/2 games left. Impressive.
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We've had 10 days to prepare for this. Looks like we played yesterday.
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Anyone that tells me Townsend is good...just no
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Really disappointed with this tonight. We are so poor.
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2-0 Evans
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They need a rocket up their backsides. Asleep.
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We just can’t keep the ball - out numbering us in the middle of the pitch
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Why no replay showing the VAR decision though? Not saying its wrong but unusual not to see it drawn up
He was clearly onside.
And now a second, completely stationary defence.
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Fat lady gargling.
Sorry guys, but it’s over.
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Haven't got going.
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Been shocking this 20 minutes
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If I had to pick 2 players I didn’t want to score against us it would be them
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He was clearly onside.
And now a second, completely stationary defence.
Not saying he isnt, i'm asking why the verdict wasnt shown. Seen it show plenty of times for similar.
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Aaaaand the old Albion are back.
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Amateur hour defending.....first Townsend and now O'shea...back to watching Dads Army for me..
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O’Shea and Townsend really struggling.
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Left ourselves too much to do needing to win this many games against good sides like Leicester.
Still, allows us more time to focus on the strategy for next season.
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Also going to put it out there, this is a quality Leicester team and I think the 9 day break has been terrible for us
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O’Shea and Townsend really struggling.
Two League One players against a good outfit sadly.
Allardyce just has not had the tools
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Just off the woodwork for them
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They are an excellent side though aren’t they Leicester. A joy to watch
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This is the worst ive seen us in a long time. We look like the team thats only played a few days ago
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We are not picking their runners up.
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Anyone else notice the lack of aerial challenges we put in.
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We really are all over the shop. Shame.
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We can come back. Just need to cut out silly mistakes.
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We can come back. Just need to cut out silly mistakes.
Forget the silly mistakes, we have been totally outplayed since the first minute.
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We're playing like a safe mid-table team with nothing to play for
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Forget the silly mistakes, we have been totally outplayed since the first minute.
This. Staggering difference in quality
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I’ve been praying for another Great Escape miracle. It just isn’t going to happen
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We're playing like a safe mid-table team with nothing to play for
I’d suggest we are playing like a team who are out of their depth
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This. Staggering difference in quality
Afraid so
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BT really hire some clowns to co-commentate, Sutton is right up there with the worst of them.
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This. Staggering difference in quality
Agree completely. Out of our depth tonight.
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Is his the same team who demolished Chelsea and Southampton?
Dreadful performance so far.
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We hit the crossbar from the corner kick.
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Got the feeling of a training session. We forget that Leicester are now up among the likes of Chelsea, Spurs etc. Such a good side.
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Robinson the only outfield player who looks bothered.
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3-0
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We can lose this and still stay up. Just saying.
Anybody else’s audio slightly ahead on BT?
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I was referring to the effort they're putting in
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We can lose this and still stay up. Just saying.
Anybody else’s audio slightly ahead on BT?
Yes 3-0, awful
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This is going to be a real tonking if this carries on.
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O'Shea just letting him walk through. Townsend and Bartley not marking.
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Poor all round tonight including Big Sam unfortunately
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We can lose this and still stay up. Just saying.
Anybody else’s audio slightly ahead on BT?
I am using Cric and also radio WM.
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O’Shea bloody hell. Absolutely shocking from him
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The Revival over already?
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We can lose this and still stay up. Just saying.
Anybody else’s audio slightly ahead on BT?
Yeah we're watching on the online app and it was ridiculous for the 2nd goal.
Not that I'm watching this any more!
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BArtley and Twosend move away from him to give him room. Nightmare.
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I’d be surprised if Robinson comes out second hal. Not that it matters now.
They are a class act though. Damage limitation now.
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This is going to be another 5 or 6-0
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O'Shea just csnt handle the front 2.
Going to be a bit of a hammering now.
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Can't believe the pooh I'm watching
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Poor all round tonight including Big Sam unfortunately
Not sure what the manager could do. He’s played the same side that’s been praised for winning our last two well.
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They cant seem to mark anyone. Some of the defendign would disgrace Sunday League players.
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Embarrassing, formation needed changing after 15 minutes, they're just passing through the midfield with ease.
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The damage was done in the summer, not tonight chaps.
Furlong, O'Shea, Bartley, Townsend. Would struggle in League One, that
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Lesson for all of you who insisted we should go with the same team as last game regardless.
You set up too open against a quality team like Leicester who set up as they do and you risk getting the runaround.
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Can't hurt to give Diangana or Grant a go second half. Try to reintegrate them.
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The damage was done in the summer, not tonight chaps.
Furlong, O'Shea, Bartley, Townsend. Would struggle in League One, that
Exactly this. Big Sam can’t be blamed at all he has to keep that winning team going in my humble.
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AMN all at sea but hes far from alone in that
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Maddison playing this game with his pipe and slippers on
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AMN all at sea but hes far from alone in that
Not one of our eleven has played well.
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At least we should finish above Sheffield United, but we may then appoint their manager if Sam steps down! It could only happen at Albion
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An amatuer musing from me possibly, but our defensive revival has come off the back of having Yokuslu and AMN in the team, making it quite hard to go through the middle of us.
Leicester are bypassing them by breaking in wide areas, which almost nullifies them. The pace of players like Vardy.
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Not one of our eleven has played well.
Very true
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Also going to put it out there, this is a quality Leicester team and I think the 9 day break has been terrible for us
We needed to play 4 days after Southampton, lost all momentum.
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They are walking around like they own the place. Oh, they do.
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The damage was done in the summer, not tonight chaps.
Furlong, O'Shea, Bartley, Townsend. Would struggle in League One, that
Indeed, many of us said we would be relegated before a ball was even kicked this season.
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MARK SOMEBODY FOR GODS SAKE.
Bloody ball watching
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An amatuer musing from me possibly, but our defensive revival has come off the back of having Yokuslu and AMN in the team, making it quite hard to go through the middle of us.
Leicester are bypassing them by breaking in wide areas, which almost nullifies them. The pace of players like Vardy.
Just sent a message to my mate saying exactly that, tactically out thought
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I'm hoping we can find a goal at some point so as to not completely lose our attacking momentum for the upcoming matches.
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Can't have 3 players in Dianga Pereira and Robinson pushing so far forward against a team of Leicesters quality, needs one to drop off and help out the midfield.
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Shots in now, best we can hope for is they take their foot off the gas and settle for what they have.
Nothing we can do to change things other than sure up the defence and try not to concede 10.
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Damage limitation. This could get ridiculous if Allardyce doesnt change things at half time.
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2 minutes added.
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Townsend, O'Shea and Diagne are having some of the worst games I've ever seen players have.
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Phillips straight at the goalie
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I’d get Grady & Grant on, may as well get some minutes into them to start readying them for next year.
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Greedy Phillips.
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They should have piped some crowd boos in there.
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Thoroughly second best in every area of the pitch.
Leicester have been a joy to watch but we haven’t got anywhere near them
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O'Shea has rocked up like he's totally in awe of Vardy, has even lost 2 headers to him. Shame as he's been growing into the position and is much better than Ajayi.
The less said about the fullbacks (barring one good block by Furlong) the better.
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This is as bad as we have played this season. Can't remember seeing so much sloppy passing. Losing all the individual duels. What have they been doing all week?.
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Townsend, O'Shea and Diagne are having some of the worst games I've ever seen players have.
You cant pick on any individuals they have all been shocking to a man.
First criticism for Allardyce as well, clearly set up wrong. Hindsight- to an extent but I did question pre-match whether we should set up with a three man central defence and central mid for this game. We havent managed to get near them.
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Don’t worry lads, we’ll win the last six games comfortably!
🤪
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You cant pick on any individuals they have all been shocking to a man.
First criticism for Allardyce as well, clearly set up wrong. Hindsight- to an extent but I did question pre-match whether we should set up with a three man central defence and central mid for this game. We havent managed to get near them.
I can, they've stood out as being even worse than the rest of the team, which is saying something. Constantly caught out of position, failing to mark a man, Diagne fluffed an open goal, then let the ball run under his foot and passed it back to their keeper with a header.
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Diagne is a waste of space.
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You cant pick on any individuals they have all been shocking to a man.
First criticism for Allardyce as well, clearly set up wrong. Hindsight- to an extent but I did question pre-match whether we should set up with a three man central defence and central mid for this game. We havent managed to get near them.
I thought so too, an open game with. Vardy's pace and his hoodoo on us? Hmmm.
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Leicester are a very good team. We’re not.
But this is also typical of players who aren’t quite good enough. The very top players are consistent and their performance levels never drop below a certain level.
Poorer players have more erratic wild swings - some good days, lots of poorer ones.
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O'shea marking Evans for their 2nd. Looks even more pathetic on the slow mo replay. Awful.
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Overconfidence from the previous two matches perhaps? Thinking we could now go toe to toe with a squad like Leicester
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We have been absolutely battered! Leicester are very good but still it should be more competitive. I actually feel a bit sorry for our defenders. It's like they have been playing against the whole Leicester team, our midfield has melted.
Matt Phillips has had a shocker. Woeful chest of the ball at the near post setting up Evans for their second and then in injury time failed to play Robinson in. No-one has come out of that half with much credit. Robinson has got hold of the ball and knocked it around a bit. Diagne anonymous. Pereira also very quiet. SJ did okay and has still let in 3!
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Townsend poor but getting no help from.Robinson at all.
Didnt expect to revert back to performances like this , poor from all of them .
Bottlers .
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I can, they've stood out as being even worse than the rest of the team, which is saying something. Constantly caught out of position, failing to mark a man, Diagne fluffed an open goal, then let the ball run under his foot and passed it back to their keeper with a header.
No one has been any worse than Diagne or Yokuslu. Both have been abysmal. People just pick on their favourite targets.
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Excellent footballer is Tielemans. Makes the game look easy
quality throughout the squad, i was really skeptical about rodgers as a manager, but he has assembled a quality squad there
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Looking at the goals again, Townsend hugely at fault, just no positional awareness. Sucked 25 yards too far into the midfield for the first. Header he stopped and didn't challenge and if anything moved to the side. 3rd he dropped off Iaeanacho and gave him all the space in the box. No idea what he was thinking.
And that's not mentioning his awful attempt that they should have scored from when clean through.
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An amatuer musing from me possibly, but our defensive revival has come off the back of having Yokuslu and AMN in the team, making it quite hard to go through the middle of us.
Leicester are bypassing them by breaking in wide areas, which almost nullifies them. The pace of players like Vardy.
A very good musing I’d say. Bang on and exactly where we’ve lost really
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No one has been any worse than Diagne or Yokuslu. Both have been abysmal. People just pick on their favourite targets.
Watch the goals again and watch Townsend's position. I also pointed out how poor Diagne has been, he's not caused us to concede goals though.
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No one has been any worse than Diagne or Yokuslu. Both have been abysmal. People just pick on their favourite targets.
Fair point , all as bad as each other.
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Watch the goals again and watch Townsend's position. I also pointed out how poor Diagne has been, he's not caused us to concede goals though.
I've watched them. Weve been awful everywhere.
When it's like that it's usually because you've set up wrong. Different formations create different games.
We havent been able to cope first half anywhere and when you're midfield is over run, inevitably your defence is as well.
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Let’s hope we’re better in the second half. Try to restore a bit of pride and maybe some belief going into the Aston Villa game.
I fear that 45 mins will have knocked the remaining stuffing out of us though.
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Player's should have been right up for this but lack of quality is and has been our down fall, like to see Diangana get a run out second half.
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They don't look motivated to me. Losing too many individual duels, passes going all over the place. Don't know why we are so different from last 2 games.
Trouble is, we haven't any better on the bench.
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Robinson off for Ajayi.
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Watch the goals again and watch Townsend's position. I also pointed out how poor Diagne has been, he's not caused us to concede goals though.
Townsend and Furlong have both faced multiple blue shirts running at them and around them. Leicester have pulled our back four all over the place, not sure why but Maddison has had the freedom of the pitch to get the ball into feet in space goal side of our midfield and then he's had the luxury of flying full backs and two strikers running ahead of him and surprise surprise our back four has crumbled. We have been over-run.
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I can't understand why we are not getting stuck in to them, there is no intensity from them.
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The pace of Ajayi would have been better against a pacey Leicester. Not one player has performed anywhere near what they have in the last 2 games.
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Robinson off for Ajayi.
Lol, Robinson is always the fall guy. Why not sub Phillips? He failed to clear the corner to make it 2-0 and wasted a good position for us in first half injury time.
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Robinson off for Ajayi.
Well Allardyce has certainly given up hope for today, if he's taken off Robinson.
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I've watched them. Weve been awful everywhere.
When it's like that it's usually because you've set up wrong. Different formations create different games.
We havent been able to cope first half anywhere and when you're midfield is over run, inevitably your defence is as well.
I partially agree. But there's no excuse for Townsend's passback, for dropping off the attacker and marking no-one, for ending up 20 yards out of position as they run in behind.
Hahah! Ajayi for Robinson - the only outfield player who actually looked like he was trying. Phillips somehow still out there.
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I can't understand why we are not getting stuck in to them, there is no intensity from them.
We've not been able to get close to them. Just too sharp and quick for us.
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Robinson off for Ajayi.
I understand the need for a tactical change, but at 3-0 down and clinging onto a faint hope of closing a large gap, thay feels like a substitution that's looking to keep the score down rather than stage a recovery.
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I understand the need for a tactical change, but at 3-0 down and clinging onto a faint hope of closing a large gap, thay feels like a substitution that's looking to keep the score down rather than stage a recovery.
Games gone. May as well save the legs for the Villa game.
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Why not Ajayi for O'shea and Diangana for Robinson?
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I understand the need for a tactical change, but at 3-0 down and clinging onto a faint hope of closing a large gap, thay feels like a substitution that's looking to keep the score down rather than stage a recovery.
The sub feels vindictive - gives Allardyce room to drop Robinson back to the bench ahead of the Villa game, he just seems to have a hate the poor lad.
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Have a runner either side of the fullback and ch has to come out, leaves vardy and iheanacho with freedom of the park
Starts with ball out from deep lying maddison and Tielemans negating our best players. Got to get in their face in MF, via Phillips and Gallagher, but no we stick a defender on.
Only defence I can think of is he's looking at goal difference !!!???!!! freakin STUPID
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Why not Ajayi for O'shea and Diangana for Robinson?
Agreed that would have been much smarter, but politics and personality at play IMV, i.e. bringing on and looking after players he likes rather than on merit.
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Townsend and Furlong have both faced multiple blue shirts running at them and around them. Leicester have pulled our back four all over the place, not sure why but Maddison has had the freedom of the pitch to get the ball into feet in space goal side of our midfield and then he's had the luxury of flying full backs and two strikers running ahead of him and surprise surprise our back four has crumbled. We have been over-run.
But for example, the first goal we are over run because Townsend has been sucked into the halfway line and then slipped. Then the entire defence is struggling to get over and cover.
For the 3rd Townsend has 1 man to make in the entire box and drops 8 yards off him instead of getting close.
Neither of those are due to us being over run, they're down to one player being exceptionally poor.
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Games gone. May as well save the legs for the Villa game.
I agree. Try to keep some legs and restore some energy for a game that matters, even if it won’t affect our relegation.
Being smashed at Aston Villa would be truly humiliating.
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They can easily see us with the kit we are in. I wonder if this is helping them to nullify us?
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What makes the sub even more baffling is that it was clear we needed to change it after about 10 mins.
But he waits until half time and 3-0 down.
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Leicester are just playing with us now
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Still carving us open.
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Nobody has any interest in doing the basics.
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These are a joy to watch with this much space afforded them
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We have had a very poor a first half, they have had an excellent one. We have been out though, out fought and out played for 40 mins but they should be more than 3 up and we have missed a couple. Not saying it will, but fortunes can change, the best team does not always win. Leicester are a far better team than us. OK but Robinson the fall guy again? he's probably made less errors than anybody, and if we are going to try to chase the game might need his sort of goal threat- HRK soon? Should be Ajayi for O'Shea. Goal difference is shot to buggery any way why try to keep it down 5 or 6 against is nothing new for us since Allardyce got here
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Nobody has any interest in doing the basics.
Some of them can’t do the basics they are that poor
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Nobody has any interest in doing the basics.
SJ is the only one interested.
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The sub feels vindictive - gives Allardyce room to drop Robinson back to the bench ahead of the Villa game, he just seems to have a hate the poor lad.
No manager is going to do something like that. They’re all governed by self-preservation - and that means not losing games. Any manager will try to pick teams he thinks give him the best chance of winning. He simply doesn’t care which player does the job for him.
We may disagree about selections made, but this business is ruthless and cut throat.
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Is Pereira on the pitch?
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I'm going to go for 68th min, Kanu on.
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Some of them can’t do the basics they are that poor
Disagree, they have shown they can on multiple occasions what i will say though is when our players are bad they are god awful.
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No manager is going to do something like that. They’re all governed by self-preservation - and that means not losing games. Any manager will try to pick teams he thinks give him the best chance of winning. He simply doesn’t care which player does the job for him.
We may disagree about selections made, but this business is ruthless and cut throat.
How come Pierera was dropped, and Diangana hasn't had any minutes, and Robinson was out the squad, while he persisted with Kanu?
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Can't tell who is worse tonight Okay or AMN.
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Finding this one a really tough watch. There aren't many occasions where I have turned an Albion game off, but watching a training session with us field a team where 50% of the players won't be here next season makes it more likely than not.
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It’s not been any better in the second half has it?
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Disagree, they have shown they can on multiple occasions what i will say though is when our players are bad they are god awful.
Had it been multiple occasions we would not be sat in 19th position at this stage of the season.
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Need to sub Okay, don't want him getting sent off and banned.
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Diagne has been awful.
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Had it been multiple occasions we would not be sat in 19th position at this stage of the season.
Blame the previous regime.
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How come Pierera was dropped, and Diangana hasn't had any minutes, and Robinson was out the squad, while he persisted with Kanu?
Because he genuinely thinks those options were the right ones and gave him the best chance of getting positive results.
We may disagree with those decisions, but no professional football manager self-sabotages because they “like†or “dislike†individuals.
And managers always carry the can. Not the players.
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Kanu coming on early.
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Kanu coming on early.
If its to save someone decent for the villa game i can live with Kanu this time.
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As I have said for twelve months please get us out of this disease of a league. Come on the champ and thanks Sam.
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Blame the previous regime.
Both regimes are to blame, however the main problem is with the lack of ambition from the club. Hence the reason why many of us suggested we would be relegated before a ball was even kicked.
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Bartley clatters Schmeichel then blocks goal bound Furlong shot that would not have counted anyway. Sums us up tonight.
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No manager is going to do something like that. They’re all governed by self-preservation - and that means not losing games. Any manager will try to pick teams he thinks give him the best chance of winning. He simply doesn’t care which player does the job for him.
We may disagree about selections made, but this business is ruthless and cut throat.
I don't agree with this. The game is gone anyway so Allardyce can do what he likes at half time. Listen to the podcasts of ex pros talking about their careers on under the cosh. Managers freeze out players all the time for personal reasons and preferences.
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HRK for Diagne who has been the squits tonight.
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Have we inebriated on Chris Suttons chips? Jesus, I've never heard a more negative commentary, even Don isn't this bad
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Both regimes are to blame, however the main problem is with the lack of ambition from the club. Hence the reason why many of us suggested we would be relegated before a ball was even kicked.
Fair comment.
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Kanu hattrick incoming...
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As I have said for twelve months please get us out of this disease of a league. Come on the champ and thanks Sam.
Next season could well be a struggle as well.
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Both regimes are to blame, however the main problem is with the lack of ambition from the club. Hence the reason why many of us suggested we would be relegated before a ball was even kicked.
The top have never had ambition. A nice idea was the YELLOW and green strip and the YELLOW and red strip.
I wonder why they picked those colours?
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Phillps didnt even compete for that header :o
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Robson Kanu on again. Just about sums tonight up .
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Have we inebriated on Chris Suttons chips? Jesus, I've never heard a more negative commentary, even Don isn't this bad
What do you want him to say?
We have been shockingly poor and he’s called us out for it. Hasn’t said anything wrong.
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HRK on again makes me very underwhelmed. He's going to be a regular again next season under Allardyce.
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Because he genuinely thinks those options were the right ones and gave him the best chance of getting positive results.
We may disagree with those decisions, but no professional football manager self-sabotages because they “like†or “dislike†individuals.
And managers always carry the can. Not the players.
You're telling me managers don't have their favourite and not favorite players? We've had multiple managers with a "bomb squad". Other players have spoken out about Sam bombing them out.
If you're telling me that Sam genuinely thinks that Kanu is a better option than Robinson or Diangana then we really should get rid of Sam. Kanu is never the answer.
Talking of which, Kanu on 1 min 30 secs earlier than my prediction. So obvious.
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Yokuslu down
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Kanu hattrick incoming...
If he makes 3 successful passes I'd take that now.
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We've not had much off this ref tonight, not that it has made any difference.
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Wasted opportunity not to give Dianganna some minutes.
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I don't agree with this. The game is gone anyway so Allardyce can do what he likes at half time. Listen to the podcasts of ex pros talking about their careers on under the cosh. Managers freeze out players all the time for personal reasons and preferences.
For a greater “good.†Their own preservation.
They freeze them out to exert control, but the end goal is the manager’s preservation and survival. It’s not to make the team worse and get sacked.
Unless they of course are looking for a payoff 😁
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Have we inebriated on Chris Suttons chips? Jesus, I've never heard a more negative commentary, even Don isn't this bad
Hard to disagree with him
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What do you want him to say?
We have been shockingly poor and he’s called us out for it. Hasn’t said anything wrong.
Agreed, this is probably as bad a performance as we've put in all season. We are playing with the attitude of 10 Sawyers.
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Sutton is dour but hard to argue with him tonight.
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It's just a stroll in the park for them.
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Someone’s getting ready to come on
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Can someone tell me why we’re not trying to make a tackle?
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Agreed, this is probably as bad a performance as we've put in all season. We are playing with the attitude of 10 Sawyers.
Sawyers and Livermore will be nailed on to start every game next season, and still fans say they look forward to a return to the championship.
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Grant to come on.
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Imagine being Pierera now, if you do get the ball and look up you've got Kanu waddling around and Phillips wheezing his way up the pitch for support. Depressing.
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My bottle of whisky is getting a battering.
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Agreed, this is probably as bad a performance as we've put in all season. We are playing with the attitude of 10 Sawyers.
Very accurate description.
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Our players' are not watching the game. We almost got caught out there.
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WHO THE HELL WAS THAT
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The reason we have been so bad is the same as why we were good Diange and Yokuslu, both have been woefully poor tonight so we are just as poor as we were before they arrived.
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Phillips should get subbed off just for that ****show
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You're telling me managers don't have their favourite and not favorite players? We've had multiple managers with a "bomb squad". Other players have spoken out about Sam bombing them out.
If you're telling me that Sam genuinely thinks that Kanu is a better option than Robinson or Diangana then we really should get rid of Sam. Kanu is never the answer.
Talking of which, Kanu on 1 min 30 secs earlier than my prediction. So obvious.
I’m sure he does think that. Or he wouldn’t do it.
And he will stand or fall by the results of those decisions. Managers always do.
I’m genuinely surprised people think managers aren’t thinking of their own futures. I spent many years reporting on the professional game and I don’t recognise the motives I keep seeing described, and I have known an awful lot of managers of all kinds. Managers primarily look after themselves, because no-one else will.
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Glad to see Grant getting on but can't believe we are getting rid of Pierera. Hopefully keeping him for Villa but I'm not convinced.
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Kanu is just not a footballer in any way shape or form.
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He's holding them back, if he had another sub he'd take off YokuÅŸlu too.
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Have we inebriated on Chris Suttons chips? Jesus, I've never heard a more negative commentary, even Don isn't this bad
Everything he as said is right. We are shocking and it is embarrassing to watch and even worse when you know the commentator's are right.
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Got to think Pereira coming off is, as you say boinging, to rest him. Uninspiring sub though, feel for Grant a bit as there is no structure now on that pitch. Him, HRK and Phillips the 3 attacking players...
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I’m sure he does think that. Or he wouldn’t do it.
And he will stand or fall by the results of those decisions. Managers always do.
I’m genuinely surprised people think managers aren’t thinking of their own futures. I spent many years reporting on the professional game and I don’t recognise the motives I keep seeing described, and I have known an awful lot of managers of all kinds, Managers primarily look after themselves, because no-one else will.
just look up interviews on this subject with other pro's. Happens all the time. I don't think managers try and get the sack, but they'll be happy to drum someone to the reserves if they choose to do so. You genuinely don't remember the bomb squad under Pulis? Or when Pierera, Diangana and Robinson were all dropped under Sam? There's countless examples.
Anyway, enough of that, got a depressing match to commentate on.
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Bartley gets a yellow.
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SJ good stop/save.
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just look up interviews on this subject with other pro's. Happens all the time. I don't think managers try and get the sack, but they'll be happy to drum someone to the reserves if they choose to do so. You genuinely don't remember the bomb squad under Pulis? Or when Pierera, Diangana and Robinson were all dropped under Sam? There's countless examples.
Oh yes, I remember very well.
Why do managers do this?
Because they believe they will get a better outcome. A team that will win. And they will stay in a job.
It can look perverse on the outside - and they get it wrong sometimes. But staying in a job is a far, far bigger motive than “getting one over†on a player. Though there are rare exceptions, as in life generally.
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SJ is the only one who has earned his salt, tonight. In my opinion.
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I’ve seen enough. Not watching anymore of that garbage.
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Remember that bloke who pretended to be a footballer and got a game for Southampton? He was better than Kanu.
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Ajayi should have had that.
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Ajayi shoulders it over from 3 yards.
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Wimp lol
I’ve got classic Coronation Street recorded
Will be more interesting :D
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I’ve got classic Coronation Street recorded
Will be more interesting
Crossroads was/is better,.
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I’ve seen enough. Not watching anymore of that garbage.
You persisted quite well, I switched off at 2-0 I’m afraid
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Remember that bloke who pretended to be a footballer and got a game for Southampton? He was better than Kanu.
I genuinely don't see how someone could be worse. He must to the ball about 5 times and loses possession 90% of the time. He wins the odd throw in I guess? I feel like you could put, literally, any of our squad up top and they'd not do any worse.
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We may be losing, but the banter is still there.
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HRK is not even a basic footballer. His touches are awful. We should be using the minutes he gets to give Grant & Diangana minutes. It pains me seeing him on the pitch as much as it did Livermore.
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At least weve looked more organised second half, our defence hasnt had wave after wave coming at them.
Very dispirited though. Cant pass, cant keep the ball.
A night to forget.
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I missed Taskmaster for this.
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I had to stop watching after that second goal.
Just painful.
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At least weve looked more organised second half, our defence hasnt had wave after wave coming at them.
Very dispirited though. Cant pass, cant keep the ball.
A night to forget.
More to do with Leicester just not even trying. They don't need to as we went to 5 at the back so we were never going to get back into it.
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I missed Taskmaster for this.
I could have watched a porn site and had a better outcome than this messy show.
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All round a bad night but stand out poor ness:
Townsend
AMN
Phillips
Pereira (but more just not involved)
O’Shea
Phillips just stopped to scratch his ear.
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I’ve got classic Coronation Street recorded
Will be more interesting :D
Me too and classic EastEnders 😎
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At least weve looked more organised second half, our defence hasnt had wave after wave coming at them.
Very dispirited though. Cant pass, cant keep the ball.
A night to forget.
The fact that Leicester took there foot off the gas is the only reason we have looked more organised.
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Me too and classic EastEnders 😎
I draw the line at the latter :D
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2nd half is where Leicester stopped playing.
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All round a bad night but stand out poor ness:
Townsend
AMN
Phillips
Pereira (but more just not involved)
O’Shea
Phillips just stopped to scratch his ear.
You forgot Diagne!
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FT 3-0 Thank gawd that is over.
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More to do with Leicester just not even trying. They don't need to as we went to 5 at the back so we were never going to get back into it.
It isnt, no team ever not tries. They are having to play in front of us second half because the gaps have been closed in central areas and the extra man at the back means they cant keep playing the ball over the top like they did first half.
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Does this mean we won't get an invite to the Super League now?
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2nd half is where Leicester stopped playing.
Game was comfortably done and dusted.
Reverting to the five at the back though has nullified those channels that were so exposed first half
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Well done Allardyce a tactical masterclass.
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It isnt, no team ever not tries. They are having to play in front of us second half because the gaps have been closed in central areas and the extra man at the back means they cant keep playing the ball over the top like they did first half.
I genuinely don't know what sport you're watching. Leicester took their foot off the gas, we were never going to get back into. The game was won, they didn't need to close down as much, me as many runs, it was a training game for them second half.
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There have been some poor performances this season, including a run of hammerings, but that performance there is a contender for the worst. We didn't have a single 5 minute spell all game.
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You’ve got to try / look interested at least. Pathetic
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Dreadful, possibly the worst performance of the season considering the importance
We were so bad it was actually funny by the end.
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Complete no show.
Pattern set very early by Townsend miskicking on halfway and never got any better.
Onto the Villa.
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Thoroughly out played from start to finish. We were never in that game because we couldn’t keep the ball. Defensively we were exposed.
A throwback to earlier in the season that was tonight. I thought those days were behind us.
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I was going to stay off the beer tonight, but I’ve changed my mind.
Outclassed by a vastly superior team.
Hope we’re better at Aston Villa (who aren’t anywhere near as good as Leicester, so please Albion don’t make them look like worldbeaters).
Cheers and goodnight.
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i think it's only right and proper to acknowledge that Leicester
were are very, very good
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Well there you have it folks a club who have owner's who are willing to invest in their investment and us.
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Awful display brought the reward it deserved. Roll on the summer now and a top to bottom review. So disappointing. As for bringing on HRK, just why? Diagne was awful but that still does not excuse bringing him on in his place.
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They better not play like that Sunday, it will be unforgivable if they do.
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Pretty much conceded midfield. 3 very good proper midfielders in Maddison, Ndidi and Tielemans against Yokuslu and AMN.
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Remember that bloke who snuck onto Man U’s team photo?
He was better than Kanu.
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No show tonight.
Set up wrong first half, better second but still didnt impress at all.
Not going to single out individuals because it's pretty pointless, everyone was poor.
First time all season I blame Allardyce. He got it wrong tonight. It's ok trying to impose ourselves on Burnley and Southampton and Villa and other PL teams but against Leicester you cant set up too open, we're not good enough to do that. He got it wrong tonight.
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I personally don’t see Allardyce here next season, ultimately Dowling has spent over £30m on 2 players who for whatever reason Sam doesn’t like / trust. The fact he’s bringing Hal on over Grant & Grady’s not been in the team for 3 months will set alarm bells ringing in the boardroom, we don’t have the resources available for them to sit on the bench & will be reliant on both next season.
Views on the game, it was like watching us back in December that was.
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No show tonight.
Set up wrong first half, better second but still didnt impress at all.
Not going to single out individuals because it's pretty pointless, everyone was poor.
First time all season I blame Allardyce. He got it wrong tonight. It's ok trying to impose ourselves on Burnley and Southampton and Villa and other PL teams but against Leicester you cant set up too open, we're not good enough to do that. He got it wrong tonight.
Set up like that against Villa and the result will be the same, if not worse.
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No show tonight.
Set up wrong first half, better second but still didnt impress at all.
Not going to single out individuals because it's pretty pointless, everyone was poor.
First time all season I blame Allardyce. He got it wrong tonight. It's ok trying to impose ourselves on Burnley and Southampton and Villa and other PL teams but against Leicester you cant set up too open, we're not good enough to do that. He got it wrong tonight.
To be fair it must have been a hard call , I was split on stick or twist . What we didn't expect was 10 players to be so poor . Okay , ANM and Diangne were quite frankly dreadful .
Don't get me started on Grant and his first touch .
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Embarassing. No creativity, 2 chances all game. So much sloppy passing. Players didn't look on the same wavelength. Players' performances a lot of 3s and 4s out of 10. That's as bad as we've played this season.
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Remember that bloke who snuck onto Man U’s team photo?
He was better than Kanu.
Lay off him he wasn't even on the pitch when we went 3 down. He is contracted to the club to do a job if he gets picked and then gets put on how's that is fault? What's he supposed to do refuse to play?
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No show tonight.
Set up wrong first half, better second but still didnt impress at all.
Not going to single out individuals because it's pretty pointless, everyone was poor.
First time all season I blame Allardyce. He got it wrong tonight. It's ok trying to impose ourselves on Burnley and Southampton and Villa and other PL teams but against Leicester you cant set up too open, we're not good enough to do that. He got it wrong tonight.
I agree. But there would have been plenty of criticism if he’d changed the team and gone “defensive†again - and we’d also lost (which we probably would have done).
Lots of people have slammed Allardyce on this forum for not “going for it†when we need points, so a cautious approach and defeat tonight would have brought howls of protest.
Truth is we’re not good enough, as I know you and many of us have said all along. And that really is the bottom line. 😞
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Lay off him he wasn't even on the pitch when we went 3 down. He is contracted to the club to do a job if he gets picked and then gets put on how's that is fault? What's he supposed to do refuse to play?
I don't hold it against HRK at this point , I blame those that run the club .
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Lay off him he wasn't even on the pitch when we went 3 down. He is contracted to the club to do a job if he gets picked and then gets put on how's that is fault? What's he supposed to do refuse to play?
Chill out dude. He’s woeful but it’s just a bit of fun, I didn’t blame him for the defeat did I?
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You know those players who take the money but don’t want to play? I wish he was one of them.
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I ended up just hoping we avoided any red cards or serious injuries.
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Chill out dude. He’s woeful but it’s just a bit of fun, I didn’t blame him for the defeat did I?
Mate i don't need to chill and how is it a bit of fun? I ain't in the mood for fun after that embarrassing excuse for a performance.
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This BT Sport is *****. No after match interview for Allardyce.
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Come on lads , it was a stinker .
Lets not take it out on each other .
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Watching that was a truly chastening experience.
Wrong set up from Sam. Semi with pace Ajayi should have started. Maybe even park the bus but it's easy in hindsight. The plan was poor.
Players believed the hype and thought another top team would just roll over and let us win.
Compare Leicesters passing to ours, slick and incisive - a joy to watch. Our press which bullied chance after chance against Chelsea and Southampton was outfoxed time and time again.
Its a good job that Ichymoto had a bad day in front of the goal or 7 or 8 was on the cards.
It's not mathematical yet but...
Hope springs eternal. COYB SOTV..... Please
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This BT Sport is *****. No after match interview for Allardyce.
He was just on NBC , spent time moaning about the fixture list . Praised Leicester but pointed out our basics went missing after a improved spell .
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This BT Sport is *****. No after match interview for Allardyce.
Wonder if it was another case of him not coming out of the dressing room. The worst part was the commentary was 2 or 3 seconds ahead of the pictures, assume it wasn't just me ?
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He was just on NBC , spent time moaning about the fixture list . Praised Leicester but pointed out our basics went missing after a improved spell .
Awful performance, that is all for me tonight.
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Watching that was a truly chastening experience.
Wrong set up from Sam. Semi with pace Ajayi should have started. Maybe even park the bus but it's easy in hindsight. The plan was poor.
Players believed the hype and thought another top team would just roll over and let us win.
Compare Leicesters passing to ours, slick and incisive - a joy to watch. Our press which bullied chance after chance against Chelsea and Southampton was outfoxed time and time again.
Its a good job that Ichymoto had a bad day in front of the goal or 7 or 8 was on the cards.
It's not mathematical yet but...
Hope springs eternal. COYB SOTV..... Please
Don't think the tactics were wrong. The players just weren't up for it and made too many sloppy, lazy errors.
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Well beaten by a far better team, a team invested in and developed over the last 3 or 4 years. We have not had that level of investment or continuity, and it showed.
However we did play particularly poorly, even for us, in this game, and got what we deserved.
From team selection and tactics, to substitutions, it was all just wrong. Even had we been at our best on the pitch I doubt the result would have been much different, but what disappointed me most was the seeming lack of cohesion between our players. It was as if everything they had been doing in the previous games had been coached out of them during the last 10 days, no instinctive movement or covering, no ball control or vision. All had a bad game, from Allardyce to the kit man who must have forgotten to bring our proper away kit, every single one has to share the blame, but no individual should be made a scapegoat for the villa match, which is what I fear Allardyce will do, and probably do it to the wrong ones.
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He was just on NBC , spent time moaning about the fixture list . Praised Leicester but pointed out our basics went missing after a improved spell .
he had 10 days to get ready for this match?
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Too high a line against a forward line with pace
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As good as Leicester were, I just found that whole performance, well, bizarre to be honest. Lack of intensity was frightening at times.
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Mate i don't need to chill and how is it a bit of fun? I ain't in the mood for fun after that embarrassing excuse for a performance.
It was embarrassing so why feel the need to defend Kanu so vehemently
If a contracted player can’t be criticised because he’s just doing his job, then that is true of every player ever. George Reilly had a contract!
Of course it wasn’t Kanus fault we lost, but the fact that we bring him on is a joke. He gets paid handsomely for being an awful footballer.
We lost to a very good side sometimes you just have to chill out, accept it and move on.
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Even in the pre match interview Allardyce was complaining about the 10 day gap but then having to play Thursday + Sunday. Makes you wonder how much that crept into the mindset and energy input tonight.
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Well beaten by a far better team, a team invested in and developed over the last 3 or 4 years. We have not had that level of investment or continuity, and it showed.
However we did play particularly poorly, even for us, in this game, and got what we deserved.
From team selection and tactics, to substitutions, it was all just wrong. Even had we been at our best on the pitch I doubt the result would have been much different, but what disappointed me most was the seeming lack of cohesion between our players. It was as if everything they had been doing in the previous games had been coached out of them during the last 10 days, no instinctive movement or covering, no ball control or vision. All had a bad game, from Allardyce to the kit man who must have forgotten to bring our proper away kit, every single one has to share the blame, but no individual should be made a scapegoat for the villa match, which is what I fear Allardyce will do, and probably do it to the wrong ones.
what happened to the press from our front four non existing, got it spot on he coached the two performances out of team.
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Was obvious what was going to happen as soon as the team was announced, dominated in numbers all over the pitch due to tactics. A lack of urgency, work rate and application multiplied that hence the half time score...
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I don’t blame Allardyce for the selection - we had found a winning formula and it would have created uproar had he dropped Robinson to accommodate an extra centre half.
As it happens, it conceded the midfield and Leicester exploited it very well. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
That being said, it does not excuse some of the ronk performances out there tonight. You have to do those basics and we were abysmal at them tonight.
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I don’t blame Allardyce for the selection - we had found a winning formula and it would have created uproar had he dropped Robinson to accommodate an extra centre half.
As it happens, it conceded the midfield and Leicester exploited it very well. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
That being said, it does not excuse some of the ronk performances out there tonight. You have to do those basics and we were abysmal at them tonight.
First paragraph is key here and I agree with every word. To get Ajayi in only one man was missing out. The negative feedback would have been far more vociferous if he'd dropped Robinson, than a bit of grumbling after the event.
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Question is will this lead into another slump like when Sam took over ? Bartley did Ok but the rest of them slumped badly especially the 3 loan stars . Diagne had one of those games when he looks like he's never seen a ball before .
Phillips and Robinson terrible , Townsend poor but let down badly by Robbo tonight .
How do you turn this around on Sunday ?
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I don’t blame Allardyce for the selection - we had found a winning formula and it would have created uproar had he dropped Robinson to accommodate an extra centre half.
As it happens, it conceded the midfield and Leicester exploited it very well. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
That being said, it does not excuse some of the ronk performances out there tonight. You have to do those basics and we were abysmal at them tonight.
I like Allardyce I really do but don’t think it is hindsight really. We all know Leicester’s strengths and our shape played into their hands.
Ultimately with the same urgency as the last 2 matches it may have worked, but think the odds were stacked against us against a real top drawer midfield on their day
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Don't want to see that awful red and yellow kit again, have we got any points while wearing it?
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Question is will this lead into another slump like when Sam took over ? Bartley did Ok but the rest of them slumped badly especially the 3 loan stars . Diagne had one of those games when he looks like he's never seen a ball before .
Phillips and Robinson terrible , Townsend poor but let down badly by Robbo tonight .
How do you turn this around on Sunday ?
I think we just have to be honest with ourselves. Leicester are the second best side in this division and regardless of how we set up today we would been on the verge of a defeat such is the disparity between the two.
I certainly don’t see a slump incoming - this team are far more organised and well drilled than the one we’ve seen before. Weaker opposition up next - a chance to put tonight beyond them. I’d be more concerned if we were a defensive mess as we were in November and December
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Echo much of what has been said on here.
Leciester are a very good team and have a good leadership model unlike us. They blew us away and even if we had been at it I think it would have still been a similar result.
Selection wise I dont blame sam as we had blown southampton and chelsea away with that line up. Think he was right so save periera and mbaye once the game was gone. Mbaye whilst has his donkey moments is still the pick of our strikers. I said I wanted 6 from 9 from this villa and wolves it is still doable.
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First paragraph is key here and I agree with every word. To get Ajayi in only one man was missing out. The negative feedback would have been far more vociferous if he'd dropped Robinson, than a bit of grumbling after the event.
Yep, drop Robinson and lose tonight and it’s a case of “why did he change a winning team?â€
We need to win games and the side tonight was designed to do that. As it happens Leicester were superb whilst some of ours churned out their worst performances in months.
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I think we just have to be honest with ourselves. Leicester are the second best side in this division and regardless of how we set up today we would been on the verge of a defeat such is the disparity between the two.
I certainly don’t see a slump incoming - this team are far more organised and well drilled than the one we’ve seen before. Weaker opposition up next - a chance to put tonight beyond them. I’d be more concerned if we were a defensive mess as we were in November and December
They looked like rabbits in headlights again mate , I hope you are correct . From the opening 10 mins and two loose passes we should have been 2 down , set the tone really . Need a good solid start on Sunday not to get another drubbing .
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I set my alarm for 5am, heard the blast and turned it off. Woke up again at 5.20am so I got up and put the game on.
0-0 at that time, all good I thought, I haven't missed anything.
Then suddenly they went bang, bang, bang and before you knew it, it was 3-0.
I could see that we just couldn't hold the ball and no matter where it went it fell to a Foxes player.
So, sorry guys, but I turned it off and went back to bed.
I was surprised to see it was only 3-0 at the end, I thought for sure they'd put another 3 past us.
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I set my alarm for 5am, heard the blast and turned it off. Woke up again at 5.20am so I got up and put the game on.
0-0 at that time, all good I thought, I haven't missed anything.
Then suddenly they went bang, bang, bang and before you knew it, it was 3-0.
I could see that we just couldn't hold the ball and no matter where it went it fell to a Foxes player.
So, sorry guys, but I turned it off and went back to bed.
I was surprised to see it was only 3-0 at the end, I thought for sure they'd put another 3 past us.
Don’t apologise.
We were going to bed too and it was only 8.30pm :D
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The awful Joe Masi thinks we lined up 4231 again. He's the only person anywhere that thinks we did.
He's terrible.
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The morning after , knew it was a big ask but after recent improvement that performance has left a bitter taste .
I can take defeat at this level but I won't accept lack of basics after showng they can do better .
Mentally weak when it counts including falling over the line last season , fearing the worst for the rest of the games.
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Players who put in sterling performances in recent games just didn't turn up last night.
Pereira might as well not been on the pitch, anybody who thought Diagne was the answer to out striking prayers should take heed of that performance last night. Okay probably had his worst game in an Albion shirt, Robinson anonymous, Phillips reverted to type.
Defence too slow and played too high a line against Vardy and Iheanacho.
We were lucky they didn't score a lot more.
Apart from that no complaints ::)
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Too high a line against a forward line with pace
Someone posted on here after the Chelsea game asking why we did not play like that in the earlier games, last night was the reason why.
Leicester are a class act, well run and with players that we can only dream of. Only way we can get our hands on them is buying their Panini stickers. We were outplayed by a team looking towards the Champions League - simples. We could have looked better admittedly, but we just need to move on.
Imagine before the Chelsea game we would be looking at 12 points out of 15? Well its down to Sam and the boys to make it happen - after last night I imagine that a fair few received the hair dryer treatment.
Bring on the seals......
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I like Allardyce I really do but don’t think it is hindsight really. We all know Leicester’s strengths and our shape played into their hands.
Ultimately with the same urgency as the last 2 matches it may have worked, but think the odds were stacked against us against a real top drawer midfield on their day
It would have taken a very brave manager to change a side that had scored 8 goals in 2 games, especially as we were chasing 5 wins from our last 8 and still have Liverpool, Arsenal, West Ham and Leeds to come.
We had to go for it because we didn't go for it in February and March. We were just didn't turn up, while the extremely classy Leicester did.
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Think we caught Leicester on a night where they were up for a big performance due to
a. the midweek European Super league fiasco probably gave them extra desire to make sure they stay in the top 4 this year
b. getting to the cup final
They outnumbered and outclassed us in midfield, probably to the extent where we'd have been better off bringing on Gallagher for Robinson or Phillips after 15 mins. Easier said than done I know. Some sort of tactical rejig to supplement the midfield area should have been made at an early stage anyway.
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The awful Joe Masi thinks we lined up 4231 again. He's the only person anywhere that thinks we did.
He's terrible.
Not sure he’s too far off with that mate 4-4-1-1 maybe? Same meat different gravy ;D
His general reporting is shocking tbf, not sure he knows too much about the game which is a shame - seems decent bloke in his defence!
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Not sure he’s too far off with that mate 4-4-1-1 maybe? Same meat different gravy ;D
His general reporting is shocking tbf, not sure he knows too much about the game which is a shame - seems decent bloke in his defence!
442 or 4411. Either of those are accurate enough, depending on how you interpret Pereira's role.
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Flaccid phallus of a performance. Need to stiffen things up a bit or we're in for another shafting off the Vile. It's better to give than to receive so shove it up 'em Albion. COYB and SOTV 8) .
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To be fair to Masi or anybody else trying to make head nor tail of what we were supposed to be doing in the first half frankly they would be guessing.
Diagne was a lone striker I'm fairly certain about that. Pereira was playing behind him I think although with 27 touches in 70 minutes most in his own half it was difficult to tell. Robinson who was the most involved midfielder played wide left and Phillips wide right how far up the pitch they were supposed to be playing is total guess work but they sank back to a four across the middle although Okay seemed to be sitting a bit behind Maitland Miles.
I really wasn't paying much attention during the 2nd half we went to a back 3 to shore up the defence and sacrificed Robinson which is entirely logical until you bring on his positional doppelgänger Grant late on the game.
Allardyce master class but as I have said elsewhere not sure what difference any of it made.
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Yep, drop Robinson and lose tonight and it’s a case of “why did he change a winning team?â€
We need to win games and the side tonight was designed to do that. As it happens Leicester were superb whilst some of ours churned out their worst performances in months.
The selection might have been designed to win. but the tactics and system reverted to what it was under previous big defeats. Strike force such as it is far too deep, no close support for fast short passes, to create chances, no off ball movement too static in fear of the opponents, no press from forward players as a unit, Midfield out numbered from the off nothing done to change it. All giving a good side the freedom to build from deep and hit runners with good attacking forward passes. No defender aware of players running in from edge of the area at corners, nobody blocking them off to prevent it. All training ground stuff looking as if it had not been covered in the previous ten days. What had? How to play in fear of the opposition, how to have no confidence, and how not to get at them and play forward at any time unless forced to by unforeseen circumstances. Brilliant!
The best players we have seemingly struggle to play the way Allardyce wants. Continuity of team selection and tactics may not have resulted in a better outcome but would have been a far better way to throw a game than this was.
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The system didn't change. Leicester were just far better than us.
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One major difference yesterday was Leicester playing 352 or (3412 for those that want to be extra analytical). This meant they outnumbered our midfield. Robinson completely neglected all defensive duty allowing Castagne constant licence to attack down their right.
Neither Chelsea, having had a man sent off, nor Southampton playing 442, or a variant of, were able to outnumber our midfield. That is where the chaos stemmed from last night.
Our improvement has largely been down to Yokuslu protecting our back line, he was unable to do that yesterday.
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Having had a go at our lack of intensity and sloppy, careless passing last night, I'd like to give Leicester some credit. Rogers has got them playing some attractive and effective attacking football. The key is that they attacked our back line at pace, not overpassing sideways and allowing our defence to get into shape, and they weren't afraid to run at and commit our defenders. Just watch how Vardy ran in from the left to set up the third. Castagne's performance also underlined the danger an attacking wing back can cause. Something I've always wanted from our wing backs. Whilst Maddison and Tielemans in midfield have the vision to pick out the through passes.
However, not only Rogers has done a good job, I think they must have a very good scouting outfit.
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It was painful watching Albion against this lot. Leicester are so more enjoyable to watch with the quick passing, tackling and movement of their players and I prefer watching them compared to Man City who are boring, forever passing sideways or backwards. We didn't stand a cat in hells chance against them. Bring on the Villa!
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It was painful watching Albion against this lot. Leicester are so more enjoyable to watch with the quick passing, tackling and movement of their players and I prefer watching them compared to Man City who are boring, forever passing sideways or backwards. We didn't stand a cat in hells chance against them. Bring on the Villa!
The way Leicester are set up in all areas is what we should aspire. That is how to run a club.