The cup draw at this stage often throws up teams playing each other back-to-back so wouldnt be surprised.
We play villa in the league on the Tuesday, if they won today and we drew them could play them twice in 5 days.
It's going to be Reading away :D
I've said all along we will play Villa in the Semi's and Liverpool in the final. ;D
Personally I'd like another home draw against Blackburn or Reading.
Getting a bit ahead of myself here, but this is also the last year in which the runner up can qualify for the Europa League.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=2137611.html
• Performances in domestic leagues will be rewarded. If a national cup winner has booked a UEFA Champions League spot, the highest-ranked club in their domestic league not already qualified for the UEFA Europa League will qualify for the competition; national cup runners-up no longer qualify.
I read last year was the last year meaning you have to win it this year to get a european place?
Not the Vile, anybody but the Vile, I get so uptight playing against them.
Anyone but arsenal, liverpool of Man u and we have a chance!
Bradford at home please.
You may get your wish. They're 2 up now!
I absolutely detest the Villa, i hope we get them at Home which could be the weekend after the Tuesday we play them in the league
If we got reading,blackburn,bradford or villa then you cant ask for anything better then that in the quarter finals. Preferably at home or awayI think either arsenal or Liverpool would have me worried to be honest, any other side I fancy our chances.
Then (persuming utd and arsenal win) if we got liverpool or utd at home id be abit more happier then getting them away
Avoid arsenal at all costs. Getting them away is the worst draw possible.
I agree Kev, not the Vile i get uptight too but if we do draw them and knock them out quite possibly the best feeling ever
I would suggest that Barnsley, Reading and Blackburn are all hoping to draw us at their place :D
They'd bite your hand off to draw us, Middlesboro knocked them out in the 3rd round :P
don't want the vile, just know sinclair would knock us out !
if we draw villa in the cup we will play them twice in 5 daysWhat you actually meant was that we will beat them twice in 5 days! ;)
Man United v Liverpool
Arsenal v Aston Villa
West Brom v Bradford
Blackburn v Reading
Before we draw Blackburn in the semi's. The dream.
For incredibly selfish reasons I want us to face a big club, won't be here for the bloody final ;D
No chance of you doing a 24 hour retunr trip to make it?
I'm in the states storm chasing, I'll have no idea where in the country I will be at that point unfortunately. Although I will of course do everything possible to get back. I'll pedalo across the Atlantic if I have to...
I'm not sure why so many people are happy to face Bradford full stop! While on paper we should beat them, they will be pumped up for this game. They got to the Carling Cup final a few years back remember.
It would be very unlucky on you if we did make the final, only thing you can do is wait and wee but as much as i hope we do make the final, there's more chance we wont.
To be honest there's no guarantee I'd get a ticket anyway. I'm not a STH and we'd only get 20k or so tickets for the final. Still, it's a long way off and like you said in all probability we won't be there!More than 20k surely? More like 40?
Still, lesson learned, in future I won't be booking things for the cup final :D
More than 20k surely? More like 40?
Does anyone know how the numbers get allocated to the balls?
Does anyone know how the numbers get allocated to the balls?
it's going to be villa, convinced of it...
It was 25k, my mistake. 40k goes to the "FA family" and the prawn sandwich brigade:My bad, will be tough to get tickets then if you aren't a STH then alright!
http://www.thefa.com/news/the-fa-cup/2014/apr/fa-cup-final-tickets-140414
Already the media are going on about Liverpool making the final for Gerrard's last game. I'd love it just love it if we got to the final and beat Liverpool.
Anyway be good if we can get another home draw and avoid the big boys.
We are either going to get the vile or Steve Clark is going to come back and haunt us :(
To confirm, is the draw made on BBC after the Preston Man Utd game?its before kick off mate at 7.30.
Isn't Roy picking the balls too, help us out Roy!
if we did make it to the final would hope the club produce a blue and white striped shirt befitting the showpiece final instead of this adidas wannabe.
if we did make it to the final would hope the club produce a blue and white striped shirt befitting the showpiece final instead of this adidas wannabe.
I get a little worried when people start thinking that far ahead as it sometimes comes back and bites you on the rear.
Were into the last 8 so I'm sure there are another 7 clubs that fancy their chances of a Wembley appearence as well.
Lets not tempt fate.
Show a little humility.
its before kick off mate at 7.30.Cheers, I don't know why I thought it was after, far more exciting watching it live than hearing about it later.
I get a little worried when people start thinking that far ahead as it sometimes comes back and bites you on the rear.I did say if. I have seen us lose 3 semi finals live so I havnt counted chickens since 78.
Were into the last 8 so I'm sure there are another 7 clubs that fancy their chances of a Wembley appearence as well.
Lets not tempt fate.
Show a little humility.
I've seen us play in 5 semis, winning 1 and losing 4! I still think we're being punished for the 68 win because we were very fortunate! Despite the hand of Milan the 2008 was nothing like as crushingly disappointing as 69,78 and 82 where we were such favourites. Still can't decide which was worst. After each it felt like part of me died.
Maybe we should give them and other visitors the Brummie End as all our noise comes from the Smethwick nowTotally agree you lose a lot af atmosphere when the smethwickenders have to desperse to different parts of the ground
I won't be disappointed if we have the likes of Reading, Blackburn or Bradford at home. All three are winnable ties.
There is another part of me though that is itching for Villa away and I don't know why because it only usually ends in heart break anyway.
Paul Franks has just asked Peter Withe if he knew what the odds are of Albion getting the vile. Neither of them knew. Jeez! ???Haha sums Franks up perfectly...
wish they would put blue and white ribbon on the cup instead of red and white all the time.
reading at home for me.
Awesome draw. We need to to the double over them and shut them up for good.
How many tickets, great atmosphere
Do ST holders get priority on tickets or what?
Really looking forward to it ;D
Over the moon with this.
Twice in one week!!
FA Cup quarter-finals: Liverpool v Blackburn Rovers, Bradford v Reading, Preston/Man Utd v Arsenal, Aston Villa v West Brom
Of course we do.Fantastic :D
Get the feeling this will be moved for TV coverage.
I hope its a later kick off. I would hate to be up early because its an early kick off.
All quarter finals are usually moved for TV
Get the feeling this will be moved for TV coverage.
I hope its a later kick off. I would hate to be up early because its an early kick off.
Leicester got 6,500 allocation for Villa.
Get the feeling this will be moved for TV coverage.All 4 ties will be on telly.
I hope its a later kick off. I would hate to be up early because its an early kick off.
Do ST holders get priority on tickets or what?Of course that's what we pay upfront for!!!
Really looking forward to it ;D
The Semi's don't follow on from these draws do they? As in we've not got the winner of Man U and Arsenal do we?No 4 teams in hat
I don't think so, but I seem to remember one of the cups doing this?
Get the feeling this will be moved for TV coverage.All four will be on telly, they just need to decide kick off times.
I hope its a later kick off. I would hate to be up early because its an early kick off.
Playing them twice in a matter of days.
If we could only win one of these games, which would you chose?
Has to be the FA Cup for me
I didn't know they showed all of them.Won't be Friday as being played 7/8th March
I hope its not a friday. I already have both the Tuesday and Wednesday booked off and I'm not allowed the Friday off! ;D
Do you think they'll stagger it for those who have been to all 3 cup games so far?
Its just going to be every man for themselves again, no loyalty points and pretty impossible to do it on people who have been to the cup games as with the low home attendances people just brought from the cash kiosks, I got my Gateshead tickets from kiosk so be no record of that being brought.
Bournemouth had the same too.
I hope its not a friday. ;DI doubt WMP will be too happy with an evening KO on Friday or Monday so Saturday or Sunday has to be favourite?
I doubt WMP will be too happy with an evening KO on Friday or Monday so Saturday or Sunday has to be favourite?Games to be played 7-8th March. Saturday, Sunday.
Last time we won the cup, we beat Blues and Villa (a) along the way.
Got a sneaky feeling about this. Can't bloody wait.
Last time we won the cup, we beat Blues and Villa (a) along the way.No we beat Blues at Villa Park in Semi we never met the Villa in 68.
Got a sneaky feeling about this. Can't bloody wait.
How will they distribute these same as the blues or queuing outside the ground
I hope it's the Sunday lunchtime otherwise I will most likely be at work
It really is a must not lose game isn't it, imagine the vile fans if they beat us!
ive got a feeling we will be getting a replay
Omg. I'm more nervous now than before the draw tonight- its just sinking in how big this game is with the winner going to Wembley. It's going to be sqeeky bum time :-X
Now they've got that horrible smug git Sherwood in charge, even extra pleasure will be taken by us battering the seals twice in a week!Sherwood Corberan, had a word at half-time yesterday and they came out second-half and narrowly beat the mighty Leicester!!
It really is a must not lose game isn't it, imagine the vile fans if they beat us!
It's the villa the one of the luckies teams around. It really wouldnt surprise me if they beat us twice in a week.
The pleasure of beating them to get to Wembley would be fantastic however the pain of losing to them is equally as bad.
And for that very reason I am glad I live on the coast out the way
League Cup QF 1982 at Villa Park 0-1 D. Statham (Pen).
I was right behind the gaol that we scored.
Don't mention 82! They don't like to talk about that year ;DNeither do we, 2 semi defeats.
Dreading the villa game as much as looking forward to it already. And the tickets ain't even gone on sale yet.
Don't mention 82! They don't like to talk about that year ;DBeat them twice in five days will be sweet; and shut the idiots up.
Dreading the villa game as much as looking forward to it already. And the tickets ain't even gone on sale yet.
Does anybody else think that the police wont allow us in two stands? I would have thought that would be a knightmare to police. Its different against leicester were there isnt really any rivalry. Maybe they will give us the whole of the north stand or more of the doug ellis stand?
League Cup QF 1982 at Villa Park 0-1 D. Statham (Pen).
I was right behind the goal that we scored.
Stan Collymore (@StanCollymore) tweeted at 7:45pm - 16 Feb 15:
Bring those Tatars to B6! Come on mi Babis!! #VTID
;D
Don't anyone kid themselves. As much as they say otherwise, this is a massive game for them. They don't like us at all they just try and hide it. ;D
They beat us in the 1957 fa cup semi final replay at the blues . It's not very often I am confident against them , but in tony PULIS I have faith .
Wasn't this a thought to be a dirty game with Mcparland being a culprit, he then went on to injure the goalkeeper in the final. My father never forgave the Villa and called them "dirty cheats" Pretty much every time they played
What language is that tosser Collymore writing in there?? And that is from a BBC journalist! How does that idiot get any airtime whatsoever? God I hate that bloke. Yes Stan, bring it on you first class moron.
It's our time .We're going to beat em .We conquered the wolves now it's them .we sent the dingles into meltdown, now it's time to do the same to the Vile
He is not a BBC journalist, he works for Talk***** and he certainly does!
Talksport, not worried about employing a wife beating, dogging scumbag, let alone one who is deliberately provocative. Should be ashamed of themselves funding this oxygen thief.
Talksport, not worried about employing a wife beating, dogging scumbag, let alone one who is deliberately provocative. Should be ashamed of themselves funding this oxygen thief.
...and me. What a sweet evening. :D
Me too
Exactly mate. How he is still in the public eye is beyond me. He's tried to provoke us on a number of occasions, Forest at home in 93/94 when he jumped up on the fence at the front of the Brummie Road when he scored. Villa away when they beat us 4-0 last time we played them at their place in the cup, he ran right up to the away end taunting us. He was lucky to get away without a slap that day. I amongst many others ran down the seats like a mountain goat to get after him. Looks like he is at it again with provocative tweets tonight about us.
Milked it when he was on loan at Fulham too if I remember correctly.
Think it was a League Cup game.
Yes, my Nan always said the same about the Villa as a result of that match. She always referred to them as 'dirty Villa'. Would you believe her Dad's brother lived down Halford's Lane and supported the Villa! He was the only member of the family that did, everyone else was and always has always been Albion. She passed away on December 10th just gone aged 97, three weeks short of her 98th birthday. Quite fitting that our first game after she died was against the Villa and of course, a fitting result in her memory. She still had a season ticket throughout her 80's and went up the match up until she was 90. Our family sponsored the Preston game on Boxing Day 2006 for her 90th. It just seems very fitting and fated that we've got the Villa again in such a massive game. It will be a dream come true to get to the Cup Final this year in her memory, I'm sure she's up there looking down and hoping and praying that we beat them. It means so much. All this excitement and anticipation now just shows how big this derby actually is, far far bigger than the Wolves in my eyes.
My entire family is Albion going back to when they were strollers.....but similar to you my Nans brother (Uncle Fred) was a Villa fan and he was basically the black sheep of the family, he also lived just off Halfords Lane on Sydenham Road
Always made for good family debates though I bet if your family's stories are anything like my Nan's tales! Nan and her Mom and Dad always went to her uncles (the Villa fan) for Sunday dinner. Her Dad and his Brother always argued over the Albion and Villa over dinner. Nan always said that the Argus was biased in favour of the Villa and my Great Grandad used to accuse his Brother of only supporting the Villa because of what he read in the Argus!
Does anyone know when the kick off time is announced?
Yeah I think those who have been to the cup games (At least the home ones) should get first shout.
Or even those that have attended 'X' away games this season perhaps.
Whether the club try to implement this I don't know.
Getting a ticket should be okay as long as the online account works okay, if I make sure I log on early and get in the queue ready for 9am.
Would imagine they'll sell out in a few hours though.
As I mentioned before though for home cup games as the demand for tickets is very low I just get them from the cash kiosk so its not really fair. If they said games may count on booking history I would have got them from the ticket office. Same with Everton away I just brought them on the night so there is no record of me buying a ticket.
Question.. If you was to purchase a half season ticket now would you have the same entitlement as other season ticket holders ?
Yup, I am in the same position. We bought a few tickets for Gateshead but all were purchased on the day.
Having slept on the draw, I am less nervous about the game. This is because I full expect Villa to jam a couple of results and I can see us getting a draw and a loss in these two games.
I don't think I fancy the idea of listing to Villa park singing they're going to Wembley.
After all this is Villa were talking about who have a history of jamming things.
Just been told by a guy at work that the last time we beat Villa in the FA cup was 1925.
Looking at what we could have drawn it's not too bad. However two aways in a week against this pig headed bunch of egomaniacs will be no good for the heart.
No doubt Tiny Tim and his band of merry men will be in the press in the build up talking a load of old tripe. Sherwood will probably have his players well up for this, but theres no other gaffer I'd rather go to Villa Park with than Tony Pulis. He will have our players ready, organised and mentally strong.
As for the ticketing situation, I think it'll be about 6,500 tickets. I've got my tickets for the league game but I won't be happy if I don't get a cup ticket. Worked out I've done 8/13 away this season. Sadly, they're all booked through my friend so I wouldn't have any points if it ever got to a system like that.
I have also done 8 this season including the villa and Sunderland league games, which should mean you get a ticket in my opinion. However like others if I buy a ticket I don't always spilt the booking between the two season tickets, I just use my name and not my old mans.
But the club will struggle to win either way to be fair.
I have also done 8 this season including the villa and Sunderland league games, which should mean you get a ticket in my opinion. However like others if I buy a ticket I don't always spilt the booking between the two season tickets, I just use my name and not my old mans.
But the club will struggle to win either way to be fair.
By all accounts, the club will be changing the system next season. We will probably be knocked out in the early stages in all cups haha!
There simply isn't the demand for the points system though I guess at the moment. We haven't even sold 1,500 for Sunderland but 10,000 will want a ticket at Villa at least
Always made for good family debates though I bet if your family's stories are anything like my Nan's tales! Nan and her Mom and Dad always went to her uncles (the Villa fan) for Sunday dinner. Her Dad and his Brother always argued over the Albion and Villa over dinner. Nan always said that the Argus was biased in favour of the Villa and my Great Grandad used to accuse his Brother of only supporting the Villa because of what he read in the Argus!
Hopefully they dont go on sale until Monday as I'll have plenty time at work to get them, where as I'm out the office Thursday and Friday and wont have a chance of getting on a computer or phone.
Thats my guess and the TV announcements today
Whoever wins the Tuesday night game (if there is a winner) will get a huge boost ahead of the cup match!
Against Blues they went on sale on the Thursday on the same week as the draw
or get the loser even more fired up for the cup game
I'll be gutted if they go on sale on a Thursday.
As it stands I will not have access to a computer until 1pm at the earliest.
how many season ticket holders do we have, obviously many of them wont want to go but you might find 10k disappointed.
Non season ticket holders dont stand a chance really.
It will be again 1 ticket per
how many season ticket holders do we have, obviously many of them wont want to go but you might find 10k disappointed.
Non season ticket holders dont stand a chance really.
It will be again 1 ticket per
one consolation will be if we get through there will be no restriction for the Semi 50/50, 40k if we need them. If we manage to get to the final are we allocated about 25k
The fact they have stopped selling half season tickets suggests to me there wont be no system again just another free for all.
Was it really a free for all though? it was one per season ticket. i got 2 with 2 season ticket numbers with 2 hours pretty easy
Yeah if we got through to the semi you would get a ticket easy, the final (if your not a season ticket holder) not so easy. Isnt the allocation around 22,000?
I'm sure it made it to members on the system for the last semi final ?
Anyone know when it will be announced what day this is being played on?
I'm sure it made it to members on the system for the last semi final ?
It must have, we didn't even sell out last time if I remember right.
I'm sure it made it to members on the system for the last semi final ?
It must have, we didn't even sell out last time if I remember right.
I struggle to believe that. We had 33k tickets, we would have sold that many easily!
The nerves are getting to me already. :o
I don't like this talk of wembley, long way to go before we are there
Club have confirmed on twitter we have got 6,500 tickets for the game and more details to be announced tomorrow.
Hopefully they can do it a bit better than they did for the Blues game!
Were coming for you, were coming for you, villa rent boys were coming for you! :P :P :P :P :P
If that's the case surely going to be the Sunday lunchtime.
Arsenal vs Man Utd going to get the main slot of 5.30 Saturday, I'd assume.
I hope the club have thought of a sensible way of selling these.
The total scrum for tickets against Blues was a joke. They should be staggered sales depending on how many games you have attended this season.
I hope the club have thought of a sensible way of selling these.
The total scrum for tickets against Blues was a joke. They should be staggered sales depending on how many games you have attended this season.
Id wet my pants with excitement even more if we were on the 5.30 slot
Saturday March 7th - 3pm!just had a look at the bbc website and they have all the games listed as 3pm ko on the Saturday, until they get the exact ko/dates
Must be an initial approximation given the weekend etc.
Can't see the coppers allowing this, but f me I hope they do.
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http://www.wba.co.uk/fixtures-results/fixtures-list/ (http://www.wba.co.uk/fixtures-results/fixtures-list/)
;D Playing Villa twice in 4 days reminds me of the 1960's, when over the Xmas period, we played the same team twice ie home and away within a 3 or 4 day gap.I used to love that; I think it was partly done to make fans' travel easy, so you'd play a team on a good train route home and away as part of the Xmas fixtures.
Seemed to be the done thing in those days.
Not a chance, the police would never allow that.
yes on BBC at least so says the Mirror (taken off their website) seems BT thought Liverpool v Blackburn was a bigger game than a WM derby!!
Quote
With their first last-eight pick the BBC understandably chose Manchester United’s clash with Arsenal.
BT then selected Liverpool’s home tie with Blackburn leaving the Beeb with the first choice of the remaining two ties.
Guess 2 games will be on sat (1 BBC & 1 BT) with the others on the Sunday
DOnt understand how liverpool blackburn is actually a bigger game, Blackburn are such a boring clubI'm guessing the game won't have been chosen because Blackburn are playing. There must be another reason, but I can't for the life of me work it out. ;)
DOnt understand how liverpool blackburn is actually a bigger game, Blackburn are such a boring club
It isn't, however I believe our league game against Villa is on BT Sport earlier that week so maybe they don't want the same game twice in such a short time. Its more likely so they can have the Liverpool/Gerrard love in with about 5 minutes of build up saved to actually mention Blackburn.
DOnt understand how liverpool blackburn is actually a bigger game, Blackburn are such a boring club
DOnt understand how liverpool blackburn is actually a bigger game, Blackburn are such a boring clubThey would have still chosen it if Liverpool were playing the Dog & Duck FC.
They would have still chosen it if Liverpool were playing the Dog & Duck FC.After all, it is the Gerrard Cup this season and not the FA Cup.
As I have to be at work for 7pm and have no way of getting out of it at this late notice I now won't be going and my journey to work means I won't even be able to watch it on the box. Oh well I have my ticket for the league game.
Genius,
so any hint of trouble at the league game and the yoof will spend the following saturday in the pub all day getting wound up before meeting up again !!
Good luck with that plan !
Best time possible. As with the Blues game, those who want a ticket and are enterprising enough, will get one.
Wasn't up for this at all when the draw was made, can't wait now.
Slightly off topic & maybe could be in the other FA cup thread but cant believe that at the QF stage a game is on a monday night ffs even if it is Man U & Arsenal - fans stitched up again for TV quote off BBC -
Another statement, this time from Arsenal who have released one in relation to the announcement that their FA Cup quarter-final against Manchester United will be played at 19:45 GMT on Monday 9 March.
They said: "The club is exploring a number of options to help our travelling supporters get back to London afterwards.
"No return trains are currently timetabled and we will let supporters know the proposed travel plans as soon as possible."
Could have been worse for us I suppose!
Can you enlighten me :)
Looking at my history tab in the online season ticket sales it does not show my tickets purchased for the 3 cup games, does anyone know why they are not listed under your history?
Whats the proceedure for a corporate ticket?
Whats the proceedure for a corporate ticket?
from vile site, £175, see below. Early birthday present to self ?
Villa will face local rivals West Bromwich Albion at home in the quarter-finals of the FA Cup.
Tim Sherwood will face up against Tony Pulis as the Baggies travel to B6 for the last eight clash. The tie will be played on Saturday 7th March KO 5.30pm. Villa made it through to this stage after a 2-1 win over Leicester, goals coming from Leandro Bacuna and Scott Sinclair. Tony Pulis' men progressed after a 4-0 victory over West Ham at The Hawthorns.
Hospitality packages are available for this exciting fixture from £175 + VAT per person.
It’s going to be a big day at Villa Park and the perfect game to 'make a day of it' and experience our award-winning hospitality.
Please call to speak to one of our dedicated hospitality sales team to discuss availability on
0800 612 0960 (option 1).
My thinking is this.
Season tickets with 3 cup games first day Are there 6500 of you
season ticket with 2 games second day and so on
are you season ticket holders and how many stubbs do you have
How do you expect them to do it????
I've done the same as you for a couple of games but that's our problem. Not the clubs. Everyone knows that things like previous purchases may be taken in consideration for big games.
I'll be irritated if we have a free for all again like blues. Ticket sales on record are the only logical way to do it
So it's not £175, it's £210 inc VAT.
Why do you say that?
Its plus VAT @ 20%
I've been to 5 away games so if they do sell the tickets this way i'm confident i'll get a ticket. I wish they would hurry up and decide though :DFor me- spurs(mate bought a ticket), Liverpool, qpr, everton, Birmingham in the cup, and sunderland on Saturday(mate purchased that too). Hopefully that should stand me in good stead.
Gateshead
Stoke
Oxford
Bournmouth
Blues
Villa (league)
West ham
Ive all done so if it goes on that happy days.
As their being announced tommorow the tickets wont be on sale tommorow will they?
Its not a case of the club getting rid of the loyalty system.
Anyone who buys a ticket knows that the club keep a record of it and its possible that your history will be referred to for any big game.
would this be open to Albion fans too. Early birthday present from her more like
Link to Albion executive away games (Villa game advertised is the league game):
http://www.thehawthornsstadium.co.uk/exec-away-trips/c97/
Make people queue up. Go in order of away/home/members/general sale. See how badly people want tickets when they actually have to queue up around the ground instead of just one on a computer. I remember queuing with my Dad growing up for a ticket to Wolves away in the cup, should be something similar now until next year when they implement the loyalty points again.
Absolutely right, we never had any complaints years ago. Having to queue overnight/from the early hours was all part of the atmosphere surrounding a big game. It's totally unfair and an utter disgrace to expect everyone to have internet access, even more so to have it at exactly the right time that the club states. There should be NO SALES ON THE INTERNET WHATSOEVER for all ticket matches with high demand.I see your point but don't forget people have already payed for the internet route via S/Ts and Memberships back last Summer ,don't forget we have a lot of none local support who do home and away..asking them to travel again just to line up wouldn't go down well.
Absolutely right, we never had any complaints years ago. Having to queue overnight/from the early hours was all part of the atmosphere surrounding a big game. It's totally unfair and an utter disgrace to expect everyone to have internet access, even more so to have it at exactly the right time that the club states. There should be NO SALES ON THE INTERNET WHATSOEVER for all ticket matches with high demand.
I see your point but don't forget people have already payed for the internet route via S/Ts and Memberships back last Summer ,don't forget we have a lot of none local support who do home and away..asking them to travel again just to line up wouldn't go down well.
Absolutely right, we never had any complaints years ago. Having to queue overnight/from the early hours was all part of the atmosphere surrounding a big game. It's totally unfair and an utter disgrace to expect everyone to have internet access, even more so to have it at exactly the right time that the club states. There should be NO SALES ON THE INTERNET WHATSOEVER for all ticket matches with high demand.
Not exactly fair on the likes of Devon, Jacko and Greenock then is it really?
The Albion always used to do a postal scheme for long distance fans who attended away matches on a regular basis. They informed the club at the start of the season that they wished to receive tickets via postal application and the club had the supporter's card details off them. The fans who requested this would have the match tickets posted out to them and the money deducted from their credit/debit card. If they did not require a particular match ticket, they would simply inform the club before the date of allocation. A very simple and effective method.How long ago was that? , with money these days and TV changing kick offs I can't see the majority signing up for that. It still doesn't solve the issue that S/T holders and Members have paid in advance for such situations.
See my post above to read a solution to this. A system that the Albion ACTUALLY HAD IN PLACE! In the same token, is it fair for someone from West Bromwich to miss out because they haven't got computer access on the morning the club decide to put tickets on sale?? Most fans who live miles away to my knowledge usually have family still in the area to be able to queue on their behalf.Sure he will correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Jacko has family near yet he goes with his Dad to nearly every League and Cup game despite living near Liverpool...., no way should those two miss out IMO.
How long ago was that? , with money these days and TV changing kick offs I can't see the majority signing up for that. It still doesn't solve the issue that S/T holders and Members have paid in advance for such situations.
Sure he will correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Jacko has family near yet he goes with his Dad to nearly every League and Cup game despite living near Liverpool...., no way should those two miss out IMO.
In that case, Jacko and his Dad are a perfect example of supporters who would benefit from signing up to the old postal system that I've brought up this evening!Agree but until recently our away support had dropped off (I had a long telephone conversation with the ticket office manager a few weeks back ) , people like Jacko and OldburyWBA are limited in numbers...a lots changed since 2004 in fairness . None of this takes away from the fact part of STs and memberships include being ahead in the list for the odd big game using the internet or phone. I certainly wouldn't fancy a 200 mile journey and a day off work to line up with general fans when I've put my money where my mouth is months before.
Agree but until recently our away support had dropped off (I had a long telephone conversation with the ticket office manager a few weeks back ) , people like Jacko and OldburyWBA are limited in numbers...a lots changed since 2004 in fairness . None of this takes away from the fact part of STs and memberships include being ahead in the list for the odd big game using the internet or phone. I certainly wouldn't fancy a 200 mile journey and a day off work to line up with general fans when I've put my money where my mouth is months before.
Make people queue up. Go in order of away/home/members/general sale. See how badly people want tickets when they actually have to queue up around the ground instead of just one on a computer. I remember queuing with my Dad growing up for a ticket to Wolves away in the cup, should be something similar now until next year when they implement the loyalty points again.
Make people queue up. Go in order of away/home/members/general sale. See how badly people want tickets when they actually have to queue up around the ground instead of just one on a computer. I remember queuing with my Dad growing up for a ticket to Wolves away in the cup, should be something similar now until next year when they implement the loyalty points again.
I've missed about 5 games home and away in the last 7 years? I live in Liverpool.
Get real, it'll be one per season ticket per transaction, online to season ticket holders just like the Birmingham game and it's as fair as it can be without the loyalty points system. Join the queue, wait for your email, buy your tickets. Stop wetting and moaning about access to computer etc. Everyone has had fair warning after the Blues game.
Edit. I didn't read the whole thread before jumping on this, so apologies, Nathan I think you make a good argument but are living in the past to a certain extent, though I'm sure the system could be adapted to a more modern medium. Fact is the last 7 seasons I've purchased an away ticket on the Wednesday morning they go on sale online without fail. I don't see why the added demand of a local derby should change that just because more people want to go.
Dexy, very decent of you to consider fans like myself. Cheers for that.
What time will they be announcing the sales date and order of sales?
I've missed about 5 games home and away in the last 7 years? I live in Liverpool.
Get real, it'll be one per season ticket per transaction, online to season ticket holders just like the Birmingham game and it's as fair as it can be without the loyalty points system. Join the queue, wait for your email, buy your tickets. Stop wetting and moaning about access to computer etc. Everyone has had fair warning after the Blues game.
Edit. I didn't read the whole thread before jumping on this, so apologies, Nathan I think you make a good argument but are living in the past to a certain extent, though I'm sure the system could be adapted to a more modern medium. Fact is the last 7 seasons I've purchased an away ticket on the Wednesday morning they go on sale online without fail. I don't see why the added demand of a local derby should change that just because more people want to go.
Dexy, very decent of you to consider fans like myself. Cheers for that.
Very good Albion. That's how it should be. Implement a proper loyalty based system from next season.
It's Wednesday for me. I do think cup games should count towards away games total though, not just league games.
I’ve been to over 5 but is there any way to tell on the system how many they actually have you down as going to?
League games: Chelsea, Leicester, QPR, West Ham, Sunderland and Villa in the league.
Factoring in cups : Bournemouth and Blues.
Just about scrape into the 5 group, IF they've been allocated correctly which I highly doubt.
The club just clarified tickets purchased for Sunderland and Villa away do count. Hope that helps people ;D
How could it fail this way?
Yes, If you log onto your account online, if you click your name you can access history of tickets and should show against what you've been to.
im a home st holder, been to 6 away games and all the cup matches this season so i stand a chance at getting a ticket, but i still think this way is a joke, what about the fans who have attended all 3 cup matches but cant afford to go to league games away?
personally i dont think its very fair judging peoples away LEAGUE games history for a CUP game.
the attendance at gateshead was embaressing and west ham wernt much better... but all of a sudden we play blues and villa away in the cup and we have 30,000 die hard baggie fans! where were they all at gateshead and west ham?!
Mine doesnt; as im a HSTH it says ive purhcased a ticket for every home game too so I cant see my away history
I agree with this, have a season ticket and travel up from Bristol every other week, but haven't got the money at the moment to be going to all the away league games, as much as I'd want to. I have attended all the cup games this season and feel like that gives me a right to be much higher up in the queuing order than I will be seeing as this is a cup game after all.
im a home st holder, been to 6 away games and all the cup matches this season so i stand a chance at getting a ticket, but i still think this way is a joke, what about the fans who have attended all 3 cup matches but cant afford to go to league games away?
personally i dont think its very fair judging peoples away LEAGUE games history for a CUP game.
the attendance at gateshead was embaressing and west ham wernt much better... but all of a sudden we play blues and villa away in the cup and we have 30,000 die hard baggie fans! where were they all at gateshead and west ham?!
im a home st holder, been to 6 away games and all the cup matches this season so i stand a chance at getting a ticket, but i still think this way is a joke, what about the fans who have attended all 3 cup matches but cant afford to go to league games away?
personally i dont think its very fair judging peoples away LEAGUE games history for a CUP game.
the attendance at gateshead was embaressing and west ham wernt much better... but all of a sudden we play blues and villa away in the cup and we have 30,000 die hard baggie fans! where were they all at gateshead and west ham?!
Actually, you make a good point.
Premier League away games attendance should not be of any relevance to this fixture. Priority should first be given first to the fans who have attending away and home games in the FA Cup.
Actually, you make a good point.
Premier League away games attendance should not be of any relevance to this fixture. Priority should first be given first to the fans who have attending away and home games in the FA Cup.
WOW so someone who has travelled 1 mile paid £10 -£20 for a ticket deserves a ticket more than someone who has travelled hundreds and hundreds of miles and spent £1k to £2k or something
People are moaning just because they know they will struggle. Those who travel the length and breadth of the country to follow the team deserve some sort of priority over those who have paid £15 to go to the Gateshead game.
This is the fairest way, rewards those who go away.
"But its a cup game - should be done on cup games" Waaaaa Waaaaa, well boo hoo, its an away game and should be done on commitment away from home.
I'm sure a proper loyalty based points system will work it out but if someone attends a Premier League fixture why should it entitle them to a FA Cup fixture over someone who has attended FA Cup games?
Not saying this is you, but some people only want to know come bigger games. Perhaps we should have a loyalty based system that would give you more points for attending Everton away on a Monday night rather than Man Utd away on 3pm Saturday. This would also encourage people to attend and would see us turn up with more away fans than 1000.
I'm sure a proper loyalty based points system will work it out but if someone attends a Premier League fixture why should it entitle them to a FA Cup fixture over someone who has attended FA Cup games?
Not saying this is you, but some people only want to know come bigger games. Perhaps we should have a loyalty based system that would give you more points for attending Everton away on a Monday night rather than Man Utd away on 3pm Saturday. This would also encourage people to attend and would see us turn up with more away fans than 1000.
Cannot see why people are complaining about this way, its the fairest way of all and the closest to loyalty points you will get. Why should someone who decided to go to Blues and Gateshead at home get priority over someone who went to Everton on a Monday night ?
Its okay saying league games shouldn't count as its a cup game so how do you propose then a fair way for the club to allocate the tickets ?
Appreciate people have work etc but the club have to look at a way to distribute them fairly and this is the best they have come up with years.
People are moaning just because they know they will struggle. Those who travel the length and breadth of the country to follow the team deserve some sort of priority over those who have paid £15 to go to the Gateshead game.
This is the fairest way, rewards those who go away.
"But its a cup game - should be done on cup games" Waaaaa Waaaaa, well boo hoo, its an away game and should be done on commitment away from home.
I'm sure a proper loyalty based points system will work it out but if someone attends a Premier League fixture why should it entitle them to a FA Cup fixture over someone who has attended FA Cup games?
Not saying this is you, but some people only want to know come bigger games. Perhaps we should have a loyalty based system that would give you more points for attending Everton away on a Monday night rather than Man Utd away on 3pm Saturday. This would also encourage people to attend and would see us turn up with more away fans than 1000.
"But its an away game - should be done on away games" Waaaaa Waaaaa, its a cup game and should be done on commitment to the cup.
Why does the price of a ticket matter? That's like saying all our fans with the most money deserve to go to games more than poorer fans. Some fans have to pick and choose games because they dont have the money to go to every game of the season, doesnt mean they want to any less than those who actually go.
Point is I specifically choose to spend my money on a season ticket, all cup games and a few away games a season, total outlay for me being the ticket plus £40 petrol every home game (thought I'd include that seeing as money is such an important indicator of commitment to you). I feel having committed to every cup game this season (and spent £55 on going to Gateshead might I add, oooh money) I am deserving of being at that next round no matter who it is against.
West Midlands Police Albion Twitter account: Sunderland v Wba around 1200 going up to Sunderland , with 7 coaches and the rest in private vehicles.
So erm, where is everybody else that will probably want to go to Villa. ::)
I actually think the club have handled this well. I've been to all the cup games home and away and two away league games. Surely those who bothered to go to Burnley / Everton when both were on Sky deserve priority. People are going to be disappointed but the club couldn't really have done more. One thing I was wondering is whether the club would screen the game back at the Hawthorns like they did when we played Man Utd in 2002 or Wolves in 94. However, with it being on the Beeb anyway would this probably be pretty futile?
West Midlands Police Albion Twitter account: Sunderland v Wba around 1200 going up to Sunderland , with 7 coaches and the rest in private vehicles.
So erm, where is everybody else that will probably want to go to Villa. ::)
"But its an away game - should be done on away games" Waaaaa Waaaaa, its a cup game and should be done on commitment to the cup.
Why does the price of a ticket matter? That's like saying all our fans with the most money deserve to go to games more than poorer fans. Some fans have to pick and choose games because they dont have the money to go to every game of the season, doesnt mean they want to any less than those who actually go.
Point is I specifically choose to spend my money on a season ticket, all cup games and a few away games a season, total outlay for me being the ticket plus £40 petrol every home game (thought I'd include that seeing as money is such an important indicator of commitment to you). I feel having committed to every cup game this season (and spent £55 on going to Gateshead might I add, oooh money) I am deserving of being at that next round no matter who it is against.
Watching a stream on their lap tops or sat by the log fire watching it in a pub with a dodgy stream.
To be fair mate some people cant afford to travel all over the country watching albion. People have other commitments then football on a weekend (work/family etc) so its abit unfair having a pop at people that dont travel to sunderland.
To be fair mate some people cant afford to travel all over the country watching albion. People have other commitments then football on a weekend (work/family etc) so its abit unfair having a pop at people that dont travel to sunderland.
But those same people will want a ticket for Villa. Our woodwork fans in recent weeks have been embarassing really. Less than a thousand to Everton, same Burnley and 1,200 to Sunderland. Yet Villa in the league sold out in 24 hours.
As a neutral, (ie no season ticket, therefore quite correctly no chance of a ticket) I think this system is fairest.
That said, those having a pop at people who have "only" gone to blooze and gateshead are out of order, people will go to what they can justify to their family commitments, it does not make them any less of a fan, IMO.
Still the fairest way to do it though.
There's always going to be a demand for the more attractive games mate , always has been always will be and that's not an albion thing , that's every team. why do you think the club lower the prices against the not so attractive teams? its to get people in because those games aren't as attractive as say Liverpool at home.Well said
Woodwork fans is abit harsh to a lot of fans aswell. in my case, ive had a season ticket for years , use to go home and away . I didn't have no commitments. Now im married , work in a job that requires a lot of overtime on the weekend and I have a child on the way.
I had to give my season ticket up this season because I had to give priority to my wife and child. I have to pick and choose my home games but that's my choice. would I love a villa ticket? bloody hell I would but I know ive got no chance.
Those fans that go home and away deserve to be rewarded,which they are getting , that was me once but now I just cannot justify it.
League or Cup, it's a game of football involving Albion. In my eyes its simple - the more games in a season you go to, the more time and expense you incur, and therefore this should give you priority over those who do less games.
Not being able to afford it, or having other commitments, are both unfortunate but thats life and there is no getting around it.
I am a season ticket holder and have been for 15 years. I used to go to majority of away games, and had away season ticket for 2 or 3 years, but nowadays I rarely go to away games. I have other interests and watching away games in pub allows me to do other things with my saturday. I'd love to go Villa in the Cup, but I accept that I should be towards the bottom of the priority list behind those who do go to the away games regularly...and quite rightly so.
League or Cup, it's a game of football involving Albion. In my eyes its simple - the more games in a season you go to, the more time and expense you incur, and therefore this should give you priority over those who do less games.
Not being able to afford it, or having other commitments, are both unfortunate but thats life and there is no getting around it.
I am a season ticket holder and have been for 15 years. I used to go to majority of away games, and had away season ticket for 2 or 3 years, but nowadays I rarely go to away games. I have other interests and watching away games in pub allows me to do other things with my saturday. I'd love to go Villa in the Cup, but I accept that I should be towards the bottom of the priority list behind those who do go to the away games regularly...and quite rightly so.
Don't think anyone has said anyone is less of a fan. Just that when prioritising away tickets the more aways you've been to the more chance you should have. I'd have liked them to start at 7 not 5 but hey ho. This is the fairest way. Good that cup attendees get priority over sths that didn't bother with the cup.
But those same people will want a ticket for Villa. Our woodwork fans in recent weeks have been embarassing really. Less than a thousand to Everton, same Burnley and 1,200 to Sunderland. Yet Villa in the league sold out in 24 hours.
I was really referring to this comment:
It is unfair to brand people 'woodwork fans' because of the ease and relative cheap cost of getting to Villa and Blues as opposed to Sunderland and Everton on a Monday night. As I said in my earlier post, for the majority of Albion fans, money is tight, work and family pressures are high. Of course more people are going to want a ticket for Villa! There has ALWAYS been a higher demand for local derbies and latter stage cup games! I don't know where this idea of 'recent weeks' and 'embarrassing fans' has come from, it's been like it for ever. I's called having to make your money stretch.
Then reply directly to my post next time :D
I'm sorry but I just don't buy it. Swansea in the week was £25. Empty seats. West ham was £20. Empty Seats. Yet when we play bigger teams and increased prices we sell more tickets. Money isn't always valid
Are you coming to watch the Albion or someone else?
Don't get me wrong, I don't claim to be any kind of super fan or think any less of fans that dont go, but people that go away more, rightly or wrongly should get priority.
Another post highlighted our support has dwindled in recent years, and it seems to be the case, but I can't fathom 6500 and probably thousands of unhappy people, opposed to 1,200 at Sunderland.
I'll be brutally honest, Blues and Villa away on a Saturday afternoon attracts me as its a great opportunity for a p**s up with my mates and there should be a decent atmosphere. We don't get many games like that anymore, so I don't go. I find it hard to buy a PL season ticket as I dislike most of the things that the PL stands for.
That said, the system is completely fair.
Then reply directly to my post next time :D
I'm sorry but I just don't buy it. Swansea in the week was £25. Empty seats. West ham was £20. Empty Seats. Yet when we play bigger teams and increased prices we sell more tickets. Money isn't always valid
Are you coming to watch the Albion or someone else?
Don't get me wrong, I don't claim to be any kind of super fan or think any less of fans that dont go, but people that go away more, rightly or wrongly should get priority.
Another post highlighted our support has dwindled in recent years, and it seems to be the case, but I can't fathom 6500 and probably thousands of unhappy people, opposed to 1,200 at Sunderland.
Don't get many chances? Really?
Manchester aways, Liverpool/Everton, Leicester, any London away?
All superb days out on the beer. Suprising.
Don't get many chances? Really?
Manchester aways, Liverpool/Everton, Leicester, any London away?
All superb days out on the beer. Suprising.
I also agree with this! (maybe not Leicester though).
I think the Loyalty Point system would now be flawed.
Our fan base has spread in terms of locations over recent years.
I didnt realise just how many Albion fans lived outside the Midlands.
I remember games such as Everton away, Sunderland away etc etc would be 5 points whilst Stoke/Leicester etc were only 2 points.
I know Albion fans who live in Chester who always go to Everton/Liverpool games, fans in Southampton who attend all the south games so the points system would now be flawed i think.
Not knocking the system at all, in fact it was me that suggested such a system in the aftermath of the Blues game! I agree 100% that fans who attend most games = fans who get first pick of the tickets. I'm just saying it's not just a recent thing where fans are more likely to want to watch such a game as opposed to a routine 'run of the mill' league game. I've been to Hartlepool for a 0-0 draw on a freezing cold bonfire night in November 1991 when there was only 400 of us, yet 18 months later we had over 40,000 at Wembley (and pretty much selling out everywhere else we went in the latter part of 92/93 season). As DaveWBA quite correctly puts in his post, people are becoming totally disillusioned with the Premier League and all it stands for. This possibly explains the empty seats and apathy towards the league fixtures. It wasn't so bad to start with, I never missed a match home or away during the first few Premier seasons, it was a novelty after travelling all over with the Albion for years and years to the delights of Mansfield, Hartlepool, Torquay, Grimsby, Tranmere, etc,etc. I know what you're saying about fans still not going when the club reduce prices as they did for Swansea, but I think it's possibly the case of when fans have broken the habit of going, it's hard to get back into it out of principle. In general though, the costs are now just too high for most fans to go everywhere like we used to back in the day! As DaveWBA also puts though, games like the Villa are like a return to the good old days of a great atmosphere and a good p**s up. It's always going to appeal to the many who have given up going so often in these days of such plastic, sterile atmospheres and all seater stadiums.
Haha something we can agree ;D I thought Leicester was a top day, boozing from 9-9, plenty of choice and some decent real ales.
I think I must now be one of them woodwork fans you refer to. I was a season ticket holder for 20 odd years before this season. I gave it up due to the treatment of staff/kit/Irvine/spin etc. I also had superb days at the Liverpool, Leicester and London as well as the Huddersfield, chester days off the past.Same for me. There have been periods were I have not missed a game, including friendlies (Dumbarton being the farthest!) and also periods were I've hardly been to a game all season.
Ive not missed my football Saturdays to be honest I went up Crystal Palace and saw how bad things was. I was overjoyed at Pullis appointment and went to Gateshead. Wanted to go to blues but couldn't get a ticket, If I had prob would have go up to the Hull game but didn't and so didn't!! yep fickle I know. Really wanted to go to both Villa games but no chance.
As for ticket arrangements the club has got it spot on I am not going to moan about it but when the 'true fans' (Why having a season ticket makes you a true fan I have no idea, I never thought of myself like this when I was a season ticket holder) moan about empty seats just remember if people cant get to see the games against the villa or blues are they really going to go against the Swansea or Hull?
Not an easy answer I accept the way things are (Now seeing things from both sides of the fence)
And before I get the fickle, not a true fan tirade I was there standing in the cold midweek against Millwall (I think) when there was only 7 thousand when the club was on its knees.
May I add Nottingham, Sheffield, Hull,Watford and it goes without saying, Newcastle, to your list of top away days?!
The away days are what you make of them yourself.
I used to do them all but now I prefer to just do about half of them but do them properly. A few of us go, make a day (or night) of it and have a laugh.
Doesn't matter where it is, I love away days.
You can indeed. Love a bit of Hooters in Nottingham for obvious reasons. Struggling for Newcastle a bit this season. All the hotels are sky high prices and the decent priced ones are in Jesmond. Only paid £20 for the Sunderland hotel this weekend.
Waaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaa
Some people can’t afford to go to any games whatsoever, so should they have the same priority as those that do? Do you honestly believe someone who has been to every away game this season deserves the same priority on tickets as someone who has gone to 3 cup games? Do me a favour. Stop trying to make it sound like I’m just favouring those with money as well, my point was those who have shown such a commitment to Albion (by following them away from home on numerous occasions) are more deserving of tickets than those who haven’t. I wouldn’t begrudge anyone a ticket who has been to more away games than me, its fair.
Jesmond is brilliant in itself mate,that's where I've always stayed for Newcastle away. Loads of great bars,it's the studenty part of town. Only couple of quid on bus into town from Jesmond or 20 min walk. There is a cracking 'rough and ready' B & B by a little church and a grassed area, see if you can find it on google maps! It's got loads of rooms sleeping various numbers, just cant think what it's called!
"Waaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaa", very mature.
No I dont honestly believe someone who has been to every away game this season deserves as much priority as someone who has gone to 3 cup games at all. But what I do believe is the fact that someone has trned up to support the club in getting through the first three rounds to take part in this quarter final should have been shown more respect by the club than they have been with this system.
With the system they have chosen it is entirely feasible that someone could've been to none of the previous three rounds and not bothered with the cup at all, and thus not supported the team to get to this stage, but now that we are in the quarters and against Villa they are showing interest and owing to the fact they've been to a few league away games (fair play) they get priority over people who turned up to support the side in the previous three rounds.
I am pleased that the club have chosen a system that is much fairer than the Birmingham free-for-all, however I am slightly irked that those who have backed us in the cup so far have been slightly shafted. I proposed a system I see as being fairer earlier:
"All FA cup games + AST - first refusal
All FA cup games + 5 away league games + ST - 2nd
All FA cup games + 3 away games + ST - 3rd
All FA cup games + 2 away games + ST - 4th
All FA cup games + ST - 5th
ST - 6th"
Of course going to away games should be rewarded with an increased possibility of getting tickets, and it is in the system proposed.
Contrary to your intimations I have not shed any tears over this and am semi-confident of getting a ticket, apologies.
Exactly - that's a ridiculous idea. Some who has been to every game apart from blues would be one of the lowest priorities.
The clubs has done it the correct way after admitting they screwed up again Blues. Fair play. Move on and stop whinging
I think the Loyalty Point system would now be flawed.
Our fan base has spread in terms of locations over recent years.
I didnt realise just how many Albion fans lived outside the Midlands.
I remember games such as Everton away, Sunderland away etc etc would be 5 points whilst Stoke/Leicester etc were only 2 points.
I know Albion fans who live in Chester who always go to Everton/Liverpool games, fans in Southampton who attend all the south games so the points system would now be flawed i think.
Is there any news about executive packages?
£150 including 2 course dinner. Can't seem to find the link now
This is the link in question, but as there's no bloody date on it who knows what match it means?!
http://www.thehawthornsstadium.co.uk/aston-villa-v-wba/p81/
This is the link in question, but as there's no bloody date on it who knows what match it means?!
http://www.thehawthornsstadium.co.uk/aston-villa-v-wba/p81/
Were we supposed to have 25% of the stadium because it's a quarter final or no?
That is the most sensible way of selling the tickets and I'm glad the club have put our most "loyal" supporters first in the priority order.
My only concern is for my mates who have done about ten games this season - like I have. When it comes to purchasing tickets because we never, ever sell out I've just purchased all the tickets on my account to save faffing around. Now the system has been designed this way, they won't have enough away games registered on their account because they're on mine so I would hope there's some flexibility in that area.
I do similar if I go with my mates or old man I.e he is linked to my account and just purchase them on there,
If it's linked I believe it registers as a sale on both of your accounts, meaning you should all have the away games registered on your account
I'd give the ticket office a call for clarification as that is what they implied on the phone today.
Quick question for anyone trying to get a ticket. Will you be trying for the North Stand or the Doug Lower?
Or is it just a case like me of it doesn't matter where as long as I get one?
Fair system. I remember once man city having the whole of the north stand maybe 06. How come the club have to change ticketing regulations for cups why cant they stick to what they do for the league?
What's the date for application for home season ticket holders with no away of FA Cup booking history?
Website shows date to be confirmedThat'll be because they dont expect it to get to that category which unfortunately I fall into :(
Im thinking of driving over tuesday instead of sitting in phone queues, I wonder if there will be lots of others doing the same or as there will only be limited people who qualify that day it will be relatively quiet?
Looking at it, I don't think it will sell as quickly as feared. Given our league away support, there wil probably be only a 1,000 or so that have 5 away stubs. Maybe 2,000 with 3 or 2 stubs, and then a free for all with 1 stub.
I also think there's a few people who don't bother with the home games/have a season ticket but regularly go away.
Two of my mates come with me to away games but aren't able to commit to a season ticket due to other comitmments and aren't really that interested in home games but love the away days, also our poor home performance over the last few years doesn't help.
I think we have a few fans like this, as we can pretty much purchase tickets to an away game the day before bar a select one or two, it's not worth having a ST for the priority anymore. If there was a few hundred like that this could mean even more are available on the Saturday, be interesting to see how many of our away supporters actually have ST's.
Yeah, I think it will quite comfortably get to the friday/saturday in my opinion.
We probably have a core away support of probably 400-500 who go to every away game, and only twice this season we have took more than 2,000 away (Villa League and Leciester)
The majority of games too had made it to general sale or have not even sold out meaning it probably is not even HTSH purchasing the tickets. I can't see more than 1000-1500 with 3 stubs if I'm honest.
My prediction is:
ATSH 400-500
5 Away games or more: 750
3 Away games or more: 1,250
2 Away games: 2,000
This would leave a scramble for the last 2,000 tickets on the Saturday which they will definitely go as people would have been to 3 cup games, even if they never go away and just purchased ticket to Hull, Oxford & West Ham say.
Didnt we take more than 2k to southampton, swansea, bournemouth etc
and i would much rather away than home, in fact i would buy a home season ticket to ensure an awayday
Didnt we take more than 2k to southampton, swansea, bournemouth etc
and i would much rather away than home, in fact i would buy a home season ticket to ensure an awayday
About 1,500 to both Saints and Swansea. 2300 for Bournemouth but that was in the cup, and above it mentioned only league aways.
No. The last time we took a sizeable amount to Southampton was with the free coaches when we beat them 3-0.
Our away support, in terms of numbers has heavily dropped off. It is very poor.
Like i say i am sure some the interest from the supporters for away games went when Irvine was appointed, most of us had purchased our season tickets before he was announced.I am sure if we stay up and have a good transfer summer away support consistantly will improve
I agree about the atmosphere it's been poor for a while now, I'm praying that Villa will be good as the Blues cup game was one of the worst for a couple of years volume wise.
I agree about the atmosphere it's been poor for a while now, I'm praying that Villa will be good as the Blues cup game was one of the worst for a couple of years volume wise.
Like i say i am sure some the interest from the supporters for away games went when Irvine was appointed, most of us had purchased our season tickets before he was announced.I am sure if we stay up and have a good transfer summer away support consistantly will improve
I think thats a poor excuse
It was hardly brilliant before Irvine
There may be a few that had their own little protest by not renewing their season tickets regretting that decision now.
Agreed. I'd be happy to wager that Sunderland will be a much better away day for support and volume than Villa. Quality of quanity. However, saying that, I still love it when we turn up in big numbers.
Yeah, I think it will quite comfortably get to the friday/saturday in my opinion.
We probably have a core away support of probably 400-500 who go to every away game, and only twice this season we have took more than 2,000 away (Villa League and Leciester)
We took over 2000 to Stoke as well
Always good atmosphere for derbys. Blues is more a lovefest over who hates villa most
To be fair when it comes to Villa what's not to hate? I think there is a decent amount of respect between Blues and Albion (it was moving how they applauded The King) but I was surprised and how lacking in edge the derby was. Too much mutual masturbation for my liking. Back in the day St Andrews was a far scarier place to go than Molineux or Sea Parks. There was always trouble when we went there.
If I hated the Villa I would probably find it less cringe but I'm not really bothered with them except for when we play them, the atmosphere and the build up doesn't seem anything like when we play the Wolves but I expect the FA cup game to be a bit more hostile not like when we play them in the league and a lot of them arent arsed and there is 10k empty seatsYou wouldn't have been around when this fixture really meant something. And it really did. I would give anything to be able to attend this game. You cannot imagine how many old scores have to be settled with this game.
No. The last time we took a sizeable amount to Southampton was with the free coaches when we beat them 3-0.
Our away support, in terms of numbers has heavily dropped off. It is very poor.
I disagree, and think it's totally understandable that relatively few (in comparison to previous seasons / or even eras) travel away.
The fact is for any Premiership football fan on an average income, following their team away from home is very expensive.
Add in family commitments, maybe kids still at school, or if you're supporting them through University etc, etc, then it's not going to be top of your list of priorities, and in all likelihood a rare treat.
Then you have the crazy ticket prices, like last season when the likes of Man City were charging us £56 / £34 concessions for a Monday night game live on SKY, and a number of other away days with ticket prices well in excess of £40, plus travel costs and all the rest of it, and it's little wonder that numbers are much lower these days.
To be honest people who have a dig at the numbers who travel away (not directing this at you) do my head in, though when I look at the state of some of the "super fans" I do wonder what else they have (or are actually not having) in their lives.
We've even got some supporters who go into one about the free coaches Albion provide each season, when their "reserved" seats on the coach are taken up by supporters who may be on a budget and are taking advantage of one of the few opportunities to have an away day within their limited budget.
The reason for relatively low away followings (with the exception of the clubs who attract all the new age / glory hunting touristy types) is purely down to the cost and the deliberate engineering by those who run football in this country to create the shift in the demographics of your average Premiership supporter.
Just look at Germany where supporters are creating superb matchday experiences with ticket prices vastly lower than ours, where there's actually a decent youth culture combined with an all inclusive nature of support, rather than here where well over a generation have been virtually priced out (unless their parents pay for their tickets) and we can go to grounds with capacities of over 60,000 and feel like we're sitting in a library.
To Albion's credit they are one of the few clubs at this level who are at least being reasonable on ticketing prices for our home games but anyone who can't get a handle on why our away support is so (relatively) low......well, to avoid a ban from the site, I won't say what I think of them.
Just thought I'd get that off my chest... ;)
As per the views of the majority - well done to Albion for the fair plans in place for selling tickets to the Villa match, where demand was always going to be high.
Anybody you can give details to on here ? I remember there were a few on here willing to help out for the Blues game
I disagree, and think it's totally understandable that relatively few (in comparison to previous seasons / or even eras) travel away.
The fact is for any Premiership football fan on an average income, following their team away from home is very expensive.
Add in family commitments, maybe kids still at school, or if you're supporting them through University etc, etc, then it's not going to be top of your list of priorities, and in all likelihood a rare treat.
Then you have the crazy ticket prices, like last season when the likes of Man City were charging us £56 / £34 concessions for a Monday night game live on SKY, and a number of other away days with ticket prices well in excess of £40, plus travel costs and all the rest of it, and it's little wonder that numbers are much lower these days.
To be honest people who have a dig at the numbers who travel away (not directing this at you) do my head in.
We've even got some supporters who go into one about the free coaches Albion provide each season, when their "reserved" seats on the coach are taken up by supporters who may be on a budget and are taking advantage of one of the few opportunities to have an away day within their limited budget.
The reason for relatively low away followings (with the exception of the clubs who attract all the new age / glory hunting touristy types) is purely down to the cost and the deliberate engineering by those who run football in this country to create the shift in the demographics of your average Premiership supporter.
Just look at Germany where supporters are creating superb matchday experiences with ticket prices vastly lower than ours, where there's actually a decent youth culture combined with an all inclusive nature of support, rather than here where well over a generation have been virtually priced out (unless their parents pay for their tickets) and we can go to grounds with capacities of over 60,000 and feel like we're sitting in a library.
To Albion's credit they are one of the few clubs at this level who are at least being reasonable on ticketing prices for our home games but I struggle to understand why anyone can't get a handle on why our away support is so (relatively) low.
Just thought I'd get that off my chest... ;)
As per the views of the majority - well done to Albion for the fair plans in place for selling tickets to the Villa match, where demand was always going to be high.
If all applicants in tomorrow's que purchase a ticket how many is this?
I totally agree with all of that. I understand it all completely.
However, all of that is not unique just to supporters of West Bromwich Albion. You see clubs such as Derby, Forest, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Aston Villa, Wolves and many more are supporters with the same scenaries in the real world as ours however their away support is tending to hold up quite well. We've gone from a core of around 1600 to a core of around 800 and occasionally even less than that.
You mention our pricing structure and that is very good. I agree wholeheartedly. But we've had two home games, one against Swansea, and the other against West Ham with a chance of reaching the quarters finals and neither one of them sold out. The West Ham game in particular was a very disappointing attendance when the club had provided a superb deal. Infact, both of those home games could have you just £35. Brilliant value for money.
I hear people on here and Twitter preaching about our fan base, about how we'll take thousands here there and everywhere, and how there will be that many going to Villa we'll even fill up the home stands. In my opinion, I don't think it is as big as some people are making it out to be, hence our low attendances.
This isn't a criticism of us either by the way.
Because our away suport has slacked off i think your more or less guranteed tickets lasting to the saturday sale date. We have 6500 tickets so i really cannot see us selling that many to people who have been to the different numbered away games. The season ticket sale date to people who have been to one cup game could be the one that see's all the tickets gone. They may even go on sale to home season ticket holders i think.
I totally agree with all of that. I understand it all completely.
However, all of that is not unique just to supporters of West Bromwich Albion. You see clubs such as Derby, Forest, Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Aston Villa, Wolves and many more are supporters with the same scenaries in the real world as ours however their away support is tending to hold up quite well. We've gone from a core of around 1600 to a core of around 800 and occasionally even less than that.
You mention our pricing structure and that is very good. I agree wholeheartedly. But we've had two home games, one against Swansea, and the other against West Ham with a chance of reaching the quarters finals and neither one of them sold out. The West Ham game in particular was a very disappointing attendance when the club had provided a superb deal. Infact, both of those home games could have you just £35. Brilliant value for money.
I hear people on here and Twitter preaching about our fan base, about how we'll take thousands here there and everywhere, and how there will be that many going to Villa we'll even fill up the home stands. In my opinion, I don't think it is as big as some people are making it out to be, hence our low attendances.
This isn't a criticism of us either by the way.
I'm in the position to get one tomorrow (work permitting) with 8 away games but won't rest until I get the actual ticket!
Would think that there will be some left by the end of the week though I also think some people are greatly underestimating the demand for this as I'm sure we could have easily shifted 10k (think of how many we could have moved for Bloose even).
I'm in the position to get one tomorrow (work permitting) with 8 away games but won't rest until I get the actual ticket!
Would think that there will be some left by the end of the week though I also think some people are greatly underestimating the demand for this as I'm sure we could have easily shifted 10k (think of how many we could have moved for Bloose even).
Does anyone think we will have a go at the Villa? TP has given the strongest indication that he sets up our away team not to lose. Sunderland and Burnley were both as weak and/ or in as much turmoil as Villa but TP refused to be drawn into open football in the hope of a win. Is there any chance that he will throw some caution to the wind or will he say that 0-0 at Seal Park in both the league and cup is actually a very credible result towards our aim of survival and an extended cup run?
Does anyone think we will have a go at the Villa? TP has given the strongest indication that he sets up our away team not to lose. Sunderland and Burnley were both as weak and/ or in as much turmoil as Villa but TP refused to be drawn into open football in the hope of a win. Is there any chance that he will throw some caution to the wind or will he say that 0-0 at Seal Park in both the league and cup is actually a very credible result towards our aim of survival and an extended cup run?
Stoxman the onus is on the vile to beat us in the league . They need the points so a draw would be ok for us. In the cup I think we will beat them there, a one off match with Wembley at stake. We are due to beat them in the cup, we will never have a better chance on both fronts. COYB.
Cup game i would say totally different, we will get a West Ham performance.How much bonus is pulis on to keep us in this league i wonder
Is there a way of checking your ticket history or just a case of seeing what happens on the day? My dad's friend who we go with has done five away games, I've done three so trying to find out whose account we got the tickets on/whether we allocated them properly. All it shows in ticket history is the upcoming home games, because we've got season tickets, rather than previous purchases.
Does anyone know if it is possible for them to be sold out tomorrow or not? I was meant to be in the office so would have been fine but now I am out so don't know when tomorrow I can buy one
They won't sell out tomorrow. You'll be fine for a couple of days I reckon.
If I knew it was impossible I wouldn't be fussed as I can definatley get one tomorrow just not at 9am
It is impossible that we will sell out tomorrow.
We do not have 6,500 ASTH's or enough HSTH with 5 away games for it to be so.
Meant to have access to a computer myself from 9am - 1pm tomorrow.
This has now changed to access between 11.30 - 1pm, then 3pm onwards.
Not in the least bit worried that I'll miss out due to early sales.
Waited in the queue, logged on and I have no option for the game???
My mates had the same trouble, let's him pick the ticket but won't let him assign another ticket.
Waited in the queue, logged on and I have no option for the game???
My mates had the same trouble, let's him pick the ticket but won't let him assign another ticket.
i thought all that was what was announced. One ticket only
Yes, it was clearly stated as being one ticket only and if you are assigning mate's tickets then they too must meet the particular day's criteria, in today's instance, 5 away games registered to their account.
Tried the phone but all lines are full - Birmingham all over again ...
I am but I am phoning from Sydney 11 hours ahead ...
Just keep trying you get through after time, i am in the que now
Logged in. Match does not appear even though I have STs with more than 5 aways
Waited in the queue, logged on and I have no option for the game???
At last. Not successful on line but got mine via the phone upper Doug, happy days :)
I thought we only had the lower and North stand upper?
The lady on the end of the phone needs cheering up, why she look a so sad, its a not so bad
What's a matta you? Ah, shaddap you face ;D :D
I didnt say that, i wanted my ticket :) she was miserable, is the weather bad up there or something
With the system the Albion have put in place for selling tickets for this game THERE IS NO NEED FOR ANYONE TO PANIC! It isn't like Blues all over again at all. Everyone entitled to a ticket today will get one, and tomorrow, Thursday and Friday for that matter! Yes there might be a slight queue on line, on the phones or at the ticket office but what do people expect?? There to be no interest??! I can't see many more than a thousand tickets going today to be honest.
I didnt say that, i wanted my ticket :) she was miserable, is the weather bad up there or something
I got mine online at 09:01 no issue at all.
It'snot too bad, overcast and chilly, she's probably fed up with individuals moaning at her I suspect. You should have told her what a good job and valuable job she was doing and blew a kiss!! ;)
sorry if this has already been made clear -
My brother has been to 4 league aways, and 1 cup away, so am I right by thinking he is eligible to buy a ticket for this match from tomorrow?
A tip would be if you have purchased games via friends accounts do it via the phone first, i dont think the online picks up all games you have attended if tickets purchased via another membership
Yes from tomorrow, the cup game dont get you any brucie bonus but you are ok with 4 aways in the league
If you think we can c0ck up ticket sales have a look at what Bradford have managed to do
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31588014
Allowed their season ticket holders to buy as many as they wanted and now have HST's unable to get a ticket whilst some of their cup tickets are already for sale on unofficial sources at inflated prices.
We might be a bit iffy with our ticketing policy at times but nothing as monumentally stupid as that!
Sorted mine now over the phone, North Stand upper. Last time I sat there was 02/03, dad got warned not to cheer for the Albion as kind of got sussed, 5 minutes later Koumas equalised and I'd say nearly half the upper tier cheered the bloke just sat there and said nothing!
Didnt think we had that part of the stand? Doug Ellis upper yes
Didnt think we had that part of the stand? Doug Ellis upper yes
No mate, Doug Ellis upper and lower and North Stand upper!Is the north stand the one where the gobby little seal pups normally loiter about in the corner in order to abuse the away support?
I've been speaking to the ticket office today and it appears they've had a few issues with games not being allocated to the correct accounts etc.
It seems that in the past staff have been lazy and have allocated tickets to one account and maybe not a friend or family that went with you for example.
Hopefully it should all be much better next season.
Is the north stand the one where the gobby little seal pups normally loiter about in the corner in order to abuse the away support?
If it is I can see some seal baiting sport being available to those seated above them. :D
I bet segregation is a nightmare on the way out though
Does any one know how many tickets have been sold or more importantly how many tickets are left
No mate, Doug Ellis upper and lower and North Stand upper!
Not going to lie; im very worried I wont get tickets tomorrow.
However; does anyone think we have 6,500 HSTH who have attended 3 or more away games also?
I dont you think but im worrying lol!
Not going to lie; im very worried I wont get tickets tomorrow.
However; does anyone think we have 6,500 HSTH who have attended 3 or more away games also?
I dont you think but im worrying lol!
Great, you can chuck that lot below some fish then
Some inflatable fish would be great!
God, please no inflatables. Aren't Villa trying to do something like that themselves ?
God, please no inflatables. Aren't Villa trying to do something like that themselves ?
God, please no inflatables. Aren't Villa trying to do something like that themselves ?
sorry but i have just purchased a seal :) cup game only though
How old is it, is it weaned, do you keep it indoors and if so, does it make a mess?
I take it you will be donating it to a local Sea World / Zoo after the game?
What about real fish then?
Getting more and more excited to watch this game.....
Ill be hitting The Watering Hole on Perranporth Beach to watch this hopefully, they should be playing the game!!
Getting more and more excited to watch this game.....
Ill be hitting The Watering Hole on Perranporth Beach to watch this hopefully, they should be playing the game!!
Different world eh
Unfortunately I've had to purchase a ticket in the Villa end, lower North at the back so don't throw too much.. If anyone has a spare feel free to send it my way :D
Getting more and more excited to watch this game.....
Ill be hitting The Watering Hole on Perranporth Beach to watch this hopefully, they should be playing the game!!
We should really of had all of that stand, last time i was there in the cup early eighties we were the ones in the lower.
Seems a bit of a mish mash how they have us
Don't bother taking 'em out of the tin either! ;)
Sardines in a tin,You upper north standers can lobb them over
We should really of had all of that stand, last time i was there in the cup early eighties we were the ones in the lower.
Seems a bit of a mish mash how they have us
Just bought mine online, seemed to be shedloads left. North stand upper, my pal can't buy his yet which is a bit frustrating but hopefully the seat next to me will be free for him
How could you tell how many there were online?You allocate your tickets through the stadium plan like home games. Seemed maybe 1.5K tickets are gone?
After a week of worry i got mine at 9:01am today.
Terrible seats though by the looks of things. Block P11 Row MM - anyone want to swap :)
Could be worse though ....
COYB
After a week of worry i got mine at 9:01am today.
Terrible seats though by the looks of things. Block P11 Row MM - anyone want to swap :)
Could be worse though ....
COYB
I'm up there as well, right in the top up the corner it seems. What seat number?
You could have chosen your own seat on the stadium plan, if you just booked without preference you've probably been allocated a random seat, may be able to change where you are if you contact the ticket office (not speaking from experience).
When I got my seat allocation yesterday the only options on the screen were for which stand I wanted, I did not get the stadium map or any option to go to it. There may have been a problem with server connections, I just don't know.
I consciously chose the Doug Ellis Lower as the Upper said restricted view.
Guess where my ticket is for? Right in the corner of the Doug Ellis Upper!
Glad to be going but slightly vexed at the same time.
Will try and contact the ticket office. Had a similar problem for QPR away and they sorted it, although it was a drawn out process.
However, they are inundated for this game and so cannot see anything happening.
When I got my seat allocation yesterday the only options on the screen were for which stand I wanted, I did not get the stadium map or any option to go to it. There may have been a problem with server connections, I just don't know.
I consciously chose the Doug Ellis Lower as the Upper said restricted view.
Guess where my ticket is for? Right in the corner of the Doug Ellis Upper!
Glad to be going but slightly vexed at the same time.
Will try and contact the ticket office. Had a similar problem for QPR away and they sorted it, although it was a drawn out process.
However, they are inundated for this game and so cannot see anything happening.
Puzzled, restricted view at Seal Park?
Got mine in same place as the league fixture! More than capable of doing the double!
Beating these lot 3 times in a season would be like the year we did the quadruple over the Dingles!
So right. The bonus was seeing all those Tesco bags in the South Bank-so funny. Should we be doing this again?
Unfortunately Tesco have very unkindly changed the design of their bags :(
Shame. They call us "bogrolls" on another forum, any ideas?
Lots of fans without HST purchasing tickets & I know how they have done this. Had a PM on this site yesterday from somebody who has done the same thing.
I think its a disgrace if im honest. Where are you on those cold evenings in Bournemouth, or those long Monday night trips to Everton. Or watching dire 0-0 draws at Sunderland.
If Mod's want names PM me.
After a week of worry i got mine at 9:01am today.
Terrible seats though by the looks of things. Block P11 Row MM - anyone want to swap :)
Could be worse though ....
COYB
One person i know has done it hasnt been to a single game home or away all season!
I would be livid if i had qualified for a ticket and didnt get one over a jonny come lately
Blame the club not the fans, cant blame them for having a crack at it for such a game!
Ill be honest I brought Sunderland ticket to get my games uptp 5 and had no intention of going, although I had actually been to 5 but they weren't all on my account such as Everton away I brought on the night so there is no record of it.
After not selling out after yesterday that seems like a big waste of £30, although I see your thinking.
After not selling out after yesterday that seems like a big waste of £30, although I see your thinking.
Just got the kids ticket so only a tenner
Anyone so excited about this game that it is causing them insomnia? :oAbsolutely no problems with sleeping. It's the anxiety during waking hours that concerns me. ???
A mate of the wife's announced that her husband has his ticket secured despite not actually having been to a game at all this season.
The missus asked if he could get me one. The answer was no, sorry, they got them through a bloke who is mates with someone working in the ticket office and he got them theirs as soon as the draw was made.
Now I don't mind not getting a ticket if they have gone legitimately to people with a better attendance record than me, but this stinks.
And as for everyone trying it, it's the prat in the ticket office wangling things for his mates that needs sorting. I'm bloody annoyed by that.
It's who you know, not what...
Again, can't blame people for trying it on if the system the club have put in place is so bad. The ticket office staff are allocated tickets for most game irrespective of demand. From what I've heard they were allowed fewer than usual for this match.
IF this goes to a replay, does anyone know what date(s) it would be scheduled for?
Couldn't get tickets to the Blues game away and inexplicably the club had SOLD my normal Season Ticket seat for Gateshead and West Ham. How in god's name is that fair?!
Whats your opinion on non ST holders who go to 7 or 8 aways a season and probably 12-13 home games then? Think these are just as entitled to tickets, but those who seldom go to games, im not in agreement with them snatching tickets.
Get a season ticket?On their eligibility I mean
Does anyone know how many we have sold so far?
If anyone is aware of people who got tickets unfairly and has an issue with it then maybe they ought to report it to the club. Better than moaning on a forum where nothing can be done about it?
2,000 LEFT apparently.
Grassing on your own. I'd hope we were better than that.
I would like to think our fans were better than going via the back to get tickets which ultimately means people who follow the ticketing procedure miss out.
I'm afraid life in general isn't fair, there will always be those who adhere to the rules and those who will ignore the rules to get what they selfishly want at the expense of others.
Three things we can hope for
1) Somebody from the club is a "Lurker" on this forum and takes note of this issue and feeds it back (are you here Chris?)
2) The Assemble Member on this forum has the issue included as an Agenda Item at a future meeting
3) A fairer system is developed to ensure the criterion for ticket allocation is adhered to and robustly enforced. Given today's technology, it is surely not beyond the wit of man to develop a suitable system
So if you were in a position to get a ticket through someone in the ticket office, when theres no chance you could get one having not been to enough games (for whatever reasons), you'd turn it down?
It's not morally right but the people doing it can't be blamed. The blame should lie at those who let these loop holes exist.
Personally I feel the system for this game is as fair as they can make it in terms of rewarding loyalty over the course of this season. However, loyalty systems are irrelevant because if you know the right people and you're willing to bend a few rules, you'll get a ticket to any game.
That doesn't really stand up to scrutiny does it? The logical extension of your position is that people who break the law shouldn't be blamed, just those who allow them to do so.
So if someone breaks into your house, it's not their fault, it's yours for not making it secure enough.
It's not morally right but the people doing it can't be blamed. The blame should lie at those who let these loop holes exist.
people cant help themselves but moan about tickets.
the people who deserve the tickets have already got theirs after the 2 days.
if you didnt qualify after 3+ away games, then tough luck, you obviously dont follow albion to away games.
just because you are a home season ticket holder does not guarentee you an away ticket, although if we do beat villa you will be guarenteed a semi final ticket at wembley. Is that fair on the lads who aren't season ticket holders but have been to 5, 6, 7 away games this season why you have been sat on your ar5e. will you be moaning then?
amazing that only 1400 travelled up to sunderland last week, where were the people moaning about those tickets? it was pay on the day up there but we didnt sell out.
people want their cake and eat it.
see you at villa park twice.
Mine in this case happens to be at the point where someone who has not supported Albion in any tangible way this season gets hold of a ticket at the expense of anyone, not necessarily me but anyone, who actually pays money and attends matches to support their club.
We're talking about Albion ticket sales. Hardly breaking the law is it!
What are these people doing to NOT get tickets?! They have first dibs and then if that fails, they can turn to the less honest measures to secure a ticket.
If you want a ticket enough, you will get one.
Just to be clear, they were Fosters tickets and he has the right to do whatever he wants with them- the bloke is an absolute gent. The point I was trying to make is that people are making analogies between getting tickets from someone they know in the club shop and having your house broken into. Really?The point I was trying to make is simply that someone said that you can't blame people who jump the queue if the opportunity arises, rather that you blame the people who set up an inadequately secure queueing system. The extension of that logic is that you can't blame people who break into insecure property, in fact you should blame the one who failed to secure it.
people cant help themselves but moan about tickets.
the people who deserve the tickets have already got theirs after the 2 days.
if you didnt qualify after 3+ away games, then tough luck, you obviously dont follow albion to away games.
just because you are a home season ticket holder does not guarentee you an away ticket, although if we do beat villa you will be guarenteed a semi final ticket at wembley. Is that fair on the lads who aren't season ticket holders but have been to 5, 6, 7 away games this season why you have been sat on your ar5e. will you be moaning then?
amazing that only 1400 travelled up to sunderland last week, where were the people moaning about those tickets? it was pay on the day up there but we didnt sell out.
people want their cake and eat it.
see you at villa park twice.
weirdly I've been offered a ticket for both games without asking for one!!
I live in Cornwall now and unfortunately i cant get up for the games anyway as much as I'm dying too.
But, if I lived in Redditch still and wanted a ticket and a friend of a friend could get me one, or a friend in the ticket office could get me one then I sure as hell would be taking up the option.
I know it seems unfair, but if perks of the job mean that someone from the ticket office can sort people out then I see no
problem in that.
Ultimately if you qualify for ticket through the ticketing procedure then you WILL get one, if you don't, then its every man for himself no matter how many games you have paid to go to on the day that do not show on any computer system history. Thats just tough titties
I think you'll find that it is, if I've interpreted the clause below correctly. Clause taken from WBA's Away Match Ticket Conditions of Issue 2014/15
3.3. The unauthorised sale or disposal of tickets is a criminal offence under section 166 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, as amended by the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006. The Club will inform the police when it becomes aware that an Away Match Ticket has been sold or disposed of illegally and will press charges to be brought against those breaking this law. If you are convicted of a ticket touting offence, or we reasonably suspect you have committed a ticketing offence, we will notify the PL or Football League who may in turn notify other PL/Football League Clubs and/or the relevant law enforcement authorities. The information that we share may include your personal details, information about the offence and about ticket purchases (including payment details). We will use this to identify and prevent ticketing offences and disorder at matches.
Is tomorrow HST holders with 1 away game?
Still despertely hoping that it will somehow get to members :D
Tomorrow I believe is home season ticket holders with three or more cup games (home or away).
I think they'll be gone after tomorrow, as that's where the big numbers come in I guess.
That was Wednesday wasn't it mate? Today is ST holders with two or more, I'd imagine they'll be gone by tomorrow.He said cup games not away games.
Approximately 1500 or so left for tomorrow is the estimate.
Also there was a rumour (all be it on twitter) yesterday suggesting Villa will give us an extra 1000 however I cannot see that happening at all.
I know they're strugglig to sell out, probably due to the fact that they have increased the criteria to get a ticket, so that Albion fans who usually sit in with the Villa fans can't buy any.
I heard the same thing a few times yesterday but can't see how it can be the case if Villa have already started selling tickets to their fans in all areas of the ground.
If they had the idea of giving albion more tickets then they wouldnt sell tickets in these blocks until they needed to. They could keep them back easily. Then put them on sale as the rest of the ground sell outs
There's normally a period to purchase your seat , that may have elapsed?
True, but you would have thought we would have heard about Villa season ticket holders not being allowed to buy their usual seats in said blocks by now, if the case.
Nope, was well on time for those, especially considering we didn't sell out. The other people around me with season tickets said that nobody came to either game too so I was left seatless. I could have gone in another stand but was fuming.
Nope, was well on time for those, especially considering we didn't sell out. The other people around me with season tickets said that nobody came to either game too so I was left seatless. I could have gone in another stand but was fuming.
Think there's 5, I'm in T3 which doesn't seem to be available online, but did it on the phone.
Nah mate I meant rows- seat rows, not blocks.
Is anyone going up to get a ticket in the morning?
By the way does anyone know if there is anything to the rumour we might be getting more tickets?
Anybody received there tickets in the post yet?
Purchased mine over the phone on tuesday, North Stand block T3.
Around 2.30 went in the ticket office and they said they had around 400 left, so a few left for general HSTH. Be gone early on Monday I suspect.
Around 2.30 went in the ticket office and they said they had around 400 left, so a few left for general HSTH. Be gone early on Monday I suspect.
God, please no inflatables. Aren't Villa trying to do something like that themselves ?You read it wrong , "villa fans are on the UNDATEABLES"
Think we have sold all our 6500 tickets!
Anyone think it's worth the risk to go up in the morning to see if there's any left?
Anyone think it's worth the risk to go up in the morning to see if there's any left?there is a system where the ticket office accept returned tickets from people who can no longer go so always worth checking regularly
I am going to the chemist tomorrow to get some calming tablets, in all my years of supporting the Baggies I have never felt this nervous of playing the flipper clapping seal scum, playing them twice in a week is going to be no good for my blood pressure at all.
I may have a spare for this as it looks like we may have to rush to Ireland due to an ill family member.
Proper looking forward to this one, I would take Villa winning all there remaining league games and finish 10 points in front of us if it meant we won this and got to the semi final!
And if we lose the semi final and end up getting relegated? Would you take the above as well?
Hope they get well soon mate.Unfortunately that's not on the cards, but she hasn't been well for a while
Any Spares let me know, Well known on this board, ;D
Happy to get pints in as well as ticket
£135 on a site called ticketbis, I would have paid up to £80 but that price is extortionate !
That would be a first :o
Now a must win, I don't want to bring them back to the Shrine and beat them. I want to do them in front of their own fans 3 or 4 nil if possible.
Sorted. 4-0n it is
Pulis will probably play for the replay.
But we are away, and TP won't start Sess...no sess no win im afraid,hutton wouldn't last 10 mins he would be sent off
Any one else think it is all liable to get more than a bit leery now on Saturday?
All day to get tanked up
Loony tunes stewards and old bill
Mixing every one together outside immediately after the game
Tasty, tasty very, very tasty would be my prediction
Another muppet
I think it will turn very nasty very quickly.
NAME FROM GAMES 2014/15 YELLOW CARDS RED CARDS TOTAL CARDS Ave Yell Ave Red Total Ave RankWhat will he give Hutton?
Anthony Taylor Cheshire 26 110 6 116 4.23 0.23 4.46 4
Taylor is Ranked 4th in terms of most cards issued this season
Almost certain it'll be as you were with Mulumbu replacing the cup tied Fletcher.
Villa's defensive record is not that great it would be stupid to be negative against them on Saturday.....and another thing, the more you attack, the more corners you tend to notch up which obviously causes them issues.
How are we going to attack playing a flat 442 with Yacob and Mulumbu in the middle, no MacManaman and most likely no Sess?Well picking Sess would be a start - at least he can take part in counter attacks.
It will be more of the same negative Pulis away style .
Well picking Sess would be a start - at least he can take part in counter attacks.
How are we going to attack playing a flat 442 with Yacob and Mulumbu in the middle, no MacManaman and most likely no Sess?
It will be more of the same negativePulisAlbion this season away style .
Witton Arms?Wouldn't recommend it mate
Hi All
I have 2 adult tickets in block T1 am looking to swap for 2 adult tickets in the lower tier close to the pitch as possible I realise that the lower tier tickets are £5 more so am willing to pay the difference.
PM me if anybody is interested
whats the reason some would rather sit in dougs lowers
Right thats it....ive had it with villa fans!! THE most annoying people in the world ever....I have a whole load of mates I grew up with and before Tuesdays game there was a thread by some on Facebook talking about the FA Cup game, 1 of them out of about 15 of them started talking about Wembley the other 14 ribbed him and said "what to watch the baggies"...ive just checked again and all 15 have now booked trains, and hotels for the SF of the game and all of them are talking like it is a done deal, every single one of them is like cant wait to get to London now day on the lash with all the boys...please please please screw up their bookings so that i can offer to take over their train tickets and hotel rooms
Now those who know me know how much I HATE Vile and this is the last straw, we had better beat them now because when we do i am going to lay into these deluded idiots and not let them rest until the start of next season.
i hate them, passionately!! deluded arrogant idiots!
COYB you had better send us to Wembley
Right thats it....ive had it with villa fans!! THE most annoying people in the world ever....I have a whole load of mates I grew up with and before Tuesdays game there was a thread by some on Facebook talking about the FA Cup game, 1 of them out of about 15 of them started talking about Wembley the other 14 ribbed him and said "what to watch the baggies"...ive just checked again and all 15 have now booked trains, and hotels for the SF of the game and all of them are talking like it is a done deal, every single one of them is like cant wait to get to London now day on the lash with all the boys...please please please screw up their bookings so that i can offer to take over their train tickets and hotel rooms
Now those who know me know how much I HATE Vile and this is the last straw, we had better beat them now because when we do i am going to lay into these deluded idiots and not let them rest until the start of next season.
i hate them, passionately!! deluded arrogant idiots!
COYB you had better send us to Wembley
2-0 Vile, confidence is everything and they have will have it in spades now. :( :(
Right thats it....ive had it with villa fans!! THE most annoying people in the world ever....I have a whole load of mates I grew up with and before Tuesdays game there was a thread by some on Facebook talking about the FA Cup game, 1 of them out of about 15 of them started talking about Wembley the other 14 ribbed him and said "what to watch the baggies"...ive just checked again and all 15 have now booked trains, and hotels for the SF of the game and all of them are talking like it is a done deal, every single one of them is like cant wait to get to London now day on the lash with all the boys...please please please screw up their bookings so that i can offer to take over their train tickets and hotel rooms
Now those who know me know how much I HATE Vile and this is the last straw, we had better beat them now because when we do i am going to lay into these deluded idiots and not let them rest until the start of next season.
i hate them, passionately!! deluded arrogant idiots!
COYB you had better send us to Wembley
Right thats it....ive had it with villa fans!! THE most annoying people in the world ever....I have a whole load of mates I grew up with and before Tuesdays game there was a thread by some on Facebook talking about the FA Cup game, 1 of them out of about 15 of them started talking about Wembley the other 14 ribbed him and said "what to watch the baggies"...ive just checked again and all 15 have now booked trains, and hotels for the SF of the game and all of them are talking like it is a done deal, every single one of them is like cant wait to get toProves hpw thick they are as its played over two days.
London now day on the lash with all the boys...please please please screw up their bookings so that i can offer to take over their train tickets and hotel rooms
Now those who know me know how much I HATE Vile and this is the last straw, we had better beat them now because when we do i am going to lay into these deluded idiots and not let them rest until the start of next season.
i hate them, passionately!! deluded arrogant idiots!
COYB you had better send us to Wembley
Despite them being open at the back (how nervous was Okora?) the few times we went at them i don't feel too hopeful . Pulis will most likely stick to the standard away system , worst still most likely Sess and Calum will be benched leaving us with nothing creative and no out ball . To top this both Berahino and Brown looked to really struggle fitness wise to me , i honestly think that side needs some fresh legs but suspect the usual lot will start .
TP's first big test for me .
To be honest clearly Foster made the mistake but i was baffled by standing off Villa after we got level and the lack of subs from TP
if we dont show up pulis should get the wrath
Right thats it....ive had it with villa fans!! THE most annoying people in the world ever....I have a whole load of mates I grew up with and before Tuesdays game there was a thread by some on Facebook talking about the FA Cup game, 1 of them out of about 15 of them started talking about Wembley the other 14 ribbed him and said "what to watch the baggies"...ive just checked again and all 15 have now booked trains, and hotels for the SF of the game and all of them are talking like it is a done deal, every single one of them is like cant wait to get to London now day on the lash with all the boys...please please please screw up their bookings so that i can offer to take over their train tickets and hotel rooms
Now those who know me know how much I HATE Vile and this is the last straw, we had better beat them now because when we do i am going to lay into these deluded idiots and not let them rest until the start of next season.
i hate them, passionately!! deluded arrogant idiots!
COYB you had better send us to Wembley
;) 1-1 then 3-1 to us at home
Can just picture Ads with his tongue stuck to the cold window ???
i agree, they will be full of confidence.. but with just over 6000 baggie fans shouting and chanting, maybe we could give our lads a bit of confidence?! the villa support on tuesday was sh*t,
after a good grilling from TP then 6000 of us chanting, im expecting alot better
2-1 to us :)
The witton arms doormen said it was open saturday to albion fans only.Phone the pub to make sure, I wouldn't believe the doorman.
Phone the pub to make sure, I wouldn't believe the doorman.
I've watched the replay over and over again of Foster's foul and penalty give away but am I the only one who thinks he was going for the ball and trying to stop the Villa player getting a shot in? I know he clipped his feet and the ref had to give a penalty but I don't think it was the really big mistake everyone thinks it is. I've played at keeper before and things happen very quickly sometimes and you only have a split second to decide what you are going to do.
I think his other mistakes, while not leading to goals, were more unforgiving and just not what a top EPL keeper should be doing. It was just unfortunate that this one not only led to a goal but won them the game.
There was a large sign outside Tuesday night...Home Fans Only.
If we fail to turn up like we did on Tuesday they'll beat us. We've handed them an enormous confidence boost on a plate.
Now I am not suggesting any one here goes out and gets a ticket this way but a quick scoot round a couple of seal boards shows there are still a couple of thousand tickets left especially in the trinity upper.
Not liable to be too many of their nutters up there more likely occasional to never attenders. You could probably purchase on line and collect on the day.
Just saying how it is like
With the game being on TV i dont think it worth going in the vile end, Did think about it for a while but changed my mind.... Also thought what are the chances getting in away end with home ticket
Biggest away following since when?
Myhill wont play, if he drops foster just think what that will do to his confidenceMyhill has played in 2 rounds so far anyway....he may have played v West Ham but he had only just become available again after his hand injury.
While potential player availabilty may be an issue, I am not dreading tomorrow in the least.
On the contrary. The players have a wonderful opportunity to ram Sherwood's comments down his throat.
Little club, Berahino got in the way of Hutton etc/.
Let's not worry too much about what a defeat to the Vile may do to our players confidence. If we BEAT the Vile tomorrow it can be the catalyst for the remainder of our season. Revenge with the added bonus of a trip to Wembley. Never know. Knock Villa out of the Cup and we may just redent their collective over inflated ego's, in turn knocking them off their stride in the Premier League.
Never fear your foe let him fear you, discard doubt and embrace the challenge.
To my mind this will never been achieved by quaking in your boots.
It's about perspectives and going into the game with a positive attitude.
Oh, and scoring a last minute winning penalty would be nice too. Carpe diem.
8).
COME ON YOU BAGGIES and S*** ON THE VILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just under 7000 ;D (glass half full)
I can confirm what freddy73 says, been into the Witton Arms today & asked the question, was told that following Tues night the Police have said no Albion fans allowed in after the game, apparently went off outside on Tues after the game with bottles & glasses thrown, no problems drinking in there before the game with the usual £2 entry fee, vile fans in front bars & Baggies around the back.
I wouldn't bother though it's absolute naff.
Head into the city centre, it'll be full of Albion.
apparently went off outside on Tues after the game with bottles & glasses thrown.
If my reading of a post on another thread was correct, then Liam Baggie and some of his mates were caught up in this.
He stated they had glasses etc thrown at them by Viler's but that the police waded into the Albion.
(I think).
From what this guy in the pub told me, they (vile) were throwing glasses from the pub across the Witton Rd after the game, which is a bit brain dead anyway, even worse that the fans seem to mix a lot in that area, so they could've hit their own fans, also, strange how the police have banned Albion fans from drinking there after the game when it was vilers throwing the glasses/bottles. ???
While potential player availabilty may be an issue, I am not dreading tomorrow in the least.
On the contrary. The players have a wonderful opportunity to ram Sherwood's comments down his throat.
Little club, Berahino got in the way of Hutton etc/.
Let's not worry too much about what a defeat to the Vile may do to our players confidence. If we BEAT the Vile tomorrow it can be the catalyst for the remainder of our season. Revenge with the added bonus of a trip to Wembley. Never know. Knock Villa out of the Cup and we may just redent their collective over inflated ego's, in turn knocking them off their stride in the Premier League.
Never fear your foe let him fear you, discard doubt and embrace the challenge.
To my mind this will never be achieved by quaking in your boots.
It's about perspectives and going into the game with a positive attitude.
Oh, and scoring a last minute winning penalty would be nice too. Carpe diem.
8).
COME ON YOU BAGGIES and S*** ON THE VILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ed:
Oops, sorry East Stand Nick.
Got a bit carried carried away with the excrement word. :).
If ever there was a time for our fans to unite it's tomorrow, I don't care if you're going or not, everyone needs to sing their hearts out & get behind the team from the off, on Tuesday from minute 66 to 93 I never heard a peep from the vilers, which tells me an early goal for us will silence their seal squeaks.
Oh & can we leave the dim tim song out & just sing about the Albion, was funny at first but then just got monotonous..................we all know he's a cnut
While potential player availabilty may be an issue, I am not dreading tomorrow in the least.
On the contrary. The players have a wonderful opportunity to ram Sherwood's comments down his throat.
Little club, Berahino got in the way of Hutton etc/.
Let's not worry too much about what a defeat to the Vile may do to our players confidence. If we BEAT the Vile tomorrow it can be the catalyst for the remainder of our season. Revenge with the added bonus of a trip to Wembley. Never know. Knock Villa out of the Cup and we may just redent their collective over inflated ego's, in turn knocking them off their stride in the Premier League.
Never fear your foe let him fear you, discard doubt and embrace the challenge.
To my mind this will never be achieved by quaking in your boots.
It's about perspectives and going into the game with a positive attitude.
Oh, and scoring a last minute winning penalty would be nice too. Carpe diem.
8).
COME ON YOU BAGGIES and S*** ON THE VILLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ed:
Oops, sorry East Stand Nick.
Got a bit carried carried away with the excrement word. :).
If we fail to turn up like we did on Tuesday they'll beat us. We've handed them an enormous confidence boost on a plate.
Doug Ellis lower, right next to the Seals :D It's going to be strange having the Albion fans separated from each other.
We're the Albion, we're the Albion, we're the Albion, we're the Albion we're the Albion...
Just think in a little less than 24 hours from now we will all be elated or utterly, utterly deflated!!!!
COYB! SOTV!
Just think in a little less than 24 hours from now we will all be elated or utterly, utterly deflated!!!!
COYB! SOTV!
Morning.
Really looking forward to today, great chance to get one over them.
Meeting my mate in Sutton this afternoon at about 2pm for pre match tots, then over to the Seal Sanctuary.
Might stop off at the Witton Arms for a cup of extortionately priced warm and fizzy urine on the way in too.
It's sort of a tradition of mine.
Which is your local in Erdington by the way?
Surely its Mulumbu time!#sesstime
Would love to be up the City with all the Albion as I reckon it'll be a great atmosphere, probably end up going 'the gas' to start with, then like yourself venture down to the WA.
I think Pulis will want to see how Yacob and Mulumbu play in the middle. He's mentioned them as a pairing several times in the media.
Same team as the league game with Mulumbu replacing Fletcher.
FOSTER
DAWSON
MCAULEY
OLLSON
POCO
MCMANAMAN
MULUMBU
YACOB
BRUNT
BERAHINO
SESS
Myhill wont play, if he drops foster just think what that will do to his confidence
I come in peace AVFC fan all my life but have family who are WBA life fans. I understand you are disappointed with Fosters blunder. We had the same against Stoke. But you should of been 3-0 down at half time ?? and Foster sent off !!
I am optimistic about today but would be worried if sess was playing behind your two forwards .....
Ive got a horrible feeling about today :(Chin up, we can do this :D
Foster 'should've' caught the ball, Dawson 'should've' scored with a free header, Hutton 'should've' been sent off...................come back on 'IN PEACE' when should've wins a game.
Totally agree Hutton should of been sent off, was a nasty second challenge. But as i said Foster "should of" been sent off and a penalty. And Delphs shot "should of" gone in. Also i think you are forgetting that Foster has the most clean sheets in the premier. Also 16 shots on goal to your three, suggests we were far the better team. Today is a different day and i hope TP comes for a draw as i feel that Benteke is up for this today. Also Fletcher being "cup tied" is a serious loss. I also want to point out that 90+% of Villa fans will and have been totally respectful to the Astle 9 minute applause. And i wish his family well with all our support .....
Totally agree Hutton should of been sent off, was a nasty second challenge. But as i said Foster "should of" been sent off and a penalty. And Delphs shot "should of" gone in. Also i think you are forgetting that Foster has the most clean sheets in the premier. Also 16 shots on goal to your three, suggests we were far the better team. Today is a different day and i hope TP comes for a draw as i feel that Benteke is up for this today. Also Fletcher being "cup tied" is a serious loss. I also want to point out that 90+% of Villa fans will and have been totally respectful to the Astle 9 minute applause. And i wish his family well with all our support .....
Gotta help my old ma clear out some of my Dad's stuff today, he died recently, so I'll be watching it with an 86 y old woman who thinks football is stupid.
... but on the plus side, my Dad left quite a few bottles of Banks's around, they'll be gone be half time I reckon.
Gotta help my old ma clear out some of my Dad's stuff today, he died recently, so I'll be watching it with an 86 y old woman who thinks football is stupid.
... but on the plus side, my Dad left quite a few bottles of Banks's around, they'll be gone be half time I reckon.
Gotta help my old ma clear out some of my Dad's stuff today, he died recently, so I'll be watching it with an 86 y old woman who thinks football is stupid.
... but on the plus side, my Dad left quite a few bottles of Banks's around, they'll be gone be half time I reckon.
Should >HAVE<
If Benteke & monglahore had of been 'up for it' for the previous part of the season like they were 'up for it' on Tues, you wouldn't be in the relegation scrap you're in now, not sure whether it's the players cheating the fans of the bed sheet brigade cheating the manager
Also Fletcher didn't play against the other claret & blue sh'ite we played in the last round, sure you know how that went.
Gotta help my old ma clear out some of my Dad's stuff today, he died recently, so I'll be watching it with an 86 y old woman who thinks football is stupid.
... but on the plus side, my Dad left quite a few bottles of Banks's around, they'll be gone be half time I reckon.
Totally agree Hutton should of been sent off, was a nasty second challenge. But as i said Foster "should of" been sent off and a penalty. And Delphs shot "should of" gone in. Also i think you are forgetting that Foster has the most clean sheets in the premier. Also 16 shots on goal to your three, suggests we were far the better team. Today is a different day and i hope TP comes for a draw as i feel that Benteke is up for this today. Also Fletcher being "cup tied" is a serious loss. I also want to point out that 90+% of Villa fans will and have been totally respectful to the Astle 9 minute applause. And i wish his family well with all our support .....
Delph's shot should have gone in? What?
I'm obsessed,don't care what they say,maybe if they weren't up their own backside and bathing continually in the fact that they are half as good historically as Forrest ?What he said....to the power of ten.
Thing is there are 3 grips of fans you can tell who they support when they walk in a room,Man U ,Chelsea and the b6 bin dippers ,I hope they get relegated ,I hope they slide into administration and I hope they lose to blues and Walsall on the way down..
Delph's shot should have gone in? What?
I know Pulis said Mcmanaman and Sess were doubtful but hope its just a bit of mind games, he did the same before the Saido and Ideye.
Would hope that Sess if available plays and personally would get Olsson back in to get stuck into Benteke, he loves that type of game! The only concern would be with a back 4 of Dawson, Gmac, Olsson and Brunt, that defence is very slow!
The narrative was "should of" if Foster "should of caught" the ball. But did not. Why is that not being questioned ? I am not hear to contest our differences but i mentioned that we were far the better team and could of easily been 3-0 up at half time. So i do not see why you are giving Foster such a bad time when he has got more clean sheets than any other prem goalie ?? Non of us can predict today`s outcome. But player for player i think we are a better team on the day. But the FA cup is a lottery and i hope Villa park will deflate your players if we can score early. As i said earlier. We will show total respect to to the Astle 9th minute applause moment .....
Delph's shot should have gone in? What?
The narrative was "should of" if Foster "should of caught" the ball. But did not. Why is that not being questioned ? I am not hear to contest our differences but i mentioned that we were far the better team and could of easily been 3-0 up at half time. So i do not see why you are giving Foster such a bad time when he has got more clean sheets than any other prem goalie ?? Non of us can predict today`s outcome. But player for player i think we are a better team on the day. But the FA cup is a lottery and i hope Villa park will deflate your players if we can score early. As i said earlier. We will show total respect to to the Astle 9th minute applause moment .....
This is the reason why you guys get stick about being arrogant and delusional. For years the standard come back of Villa fans has been "the table does not lie" - except of course when the boot is on the other foot! Anyway as a wise man once said "it is a waste of time arguing with fools since bystanders might not be able to tell the difference. "
Takes no prisoners does our baseball capped leader! :o
Takes no prisoners does our baseball capped leader! :o
No doubt a massive portion of this site will be buzzing now they finally have their wish...
It's not a proper dropping with Myhill playing the previous cup games. If Pulis goes with Myhill in the next league game that will be a different message :)
I agree with the vile fan Foster hasn't been as bad as some make out just check his clean sheets!! However that mistake was costly for me
There were other players out there who were just as bad and deserve as much criticism personally
P.s. SOTV
Eh, I don't see any buzzing whatsoever.
good idea, they'd have peppered him from the off, and if he let one in we'd be right in it straight away, and with a shot goalie on the pitch
What a miss >:(
Just dreadful, oh well those things happen but bleh.... ::)Score in derby will boost his confidence,but he miss it badly. :(
Looked like Ideye's header hit the hand of the defending Villa player! Ideye needs a bit of luck now.
Great pass by Yacob and great cross by Dawson before that :)
I think the knocks that Ideye is carrying are really limiting him. I think the same applies to Saido, but the latter has much more instinctive finishing which makes the difference
Awful once again, making Villa look a potent attacking threat.
One for everyone who wanted Foster dropped.
The difference is Villa have players who run at us and have us backtracking. If Villa lose the ball it goes to Gardner, Brunt or Yacob and Villa can safely get everyone back in position, then we hoof it to Ideye who gets nowehere near it or runs it out of play.
Ironic, had Foster been in goal for that there would be uproar on here, yet because its the golden Myhill very little is said about how he could have done better.
TP needs to change things now. Pocognoli and Macmaman and possibly Sess are needed to add width and flair.
its as poor a villa side ive ever seen and we still struggle against them, poor selection again with no width.
Ideye gone back to being absolute sh*te. Always offside, missing sitters.
This is terrible. I honestly can't see us scoring.
Sessegnon PLEASE!!! He makes things happen!
Well Yacobs rep got him sent there, FFS
Ideye has to take some stick here. That sitter would have changed this game.
Ideye has to take some stick here. That sitter would have changed this game.
Well this worked well....This result has nothing to do with the goalkeeper
Ideye has to take some stick here. That sitter would have changed this game.
I am turning the Telly off. I can't bear to see Sherwood's celebrations.He's a bit daft, and would never choose him as our manager, but the two games have shown the difference between having a bit of a go and having no ambition whatsoever (Pulis).
My Shef Wed mate just asked me why we're hoofing it long constantly.I have two, they make a nice short sentence too.
I had no answer..... This is just dreadful stuff.
He's a bit daft, and would never choose him as our manager, but the two games have shown the difference between having a bit of a go and having no ambition whatsoever (Pulis).
Nah, it's simply that Villa have a bit of pace about their team. That's it.That's exactly the point though isn't it? Pulis could easily play McManaman and Sess on the wings from the start, but chooses not to. Instead it's Brunt and Gardner. Hence no threat.
Villa haven't even needed to play well but with every single player in our two banks of four lacking any pace whatsoever it has been easy pickings for them.
players should hang their heads in shame for two shocking performances this week against a poor villa side.Is it the players though?
Horrible 2nd half.Both sides being ripped.I don't blame Lescott and Dawson,they have tried their best but full back is not their natural position.TP should play Pocognoil at left back in the coming matches,Lescott is not a left back!!!!!Obviously, everyone can see that. Pulis won't though, will he?
Obviously, everyone can see that. Pulis won't though, will he?Why use Pocognoli when you've got Chris Baird?!
Will we ever win a game away from home under Pulis? Load of rubbish Albion. >:( >:(Do you want the long answer, or short?
Got what we deserved, lost to a far better team who wanted it far more. Our side is genuinely shocking, the only hope is keeping it eqal and taking a lead, go behind and we fall apart.
Worst offenders:
Pulis - Doesn't know how to play away from home. The only team Stoke would ever beat were us away.
Gardner - Probably the worst player in the premier league. Useless at every aspect of the game aside from 1 in 100 shots. Honestly the fact we have Sessegnon and Mulumbu on the bench is a crime. He's just so bad almost every game.
Brown - Woeful finisher, misses far too many easy chances. Perhaps the best thing about his brief run is it may get us a bit more money in the summer because his talent doesn't cut it.
Yacob - Need's to stop jumping in with 2 feet, wasn't a booking this time, but that's why he got it. He'll be sent off every game he plays for us unless he stops it, it doesn't matter if he pulls out when he does it, the ref's reaching for the red the moment he see's him going for it.
We should stay up anyway, that's about it. I wouldn't expect things to change much next season. I thought Pulis liked width but Sessegnon is thousands of times better than Gardner, faster, more skillful, just everything that should see him preferred.
My 13 year old is in bits at the moment- inconsolable . Might be young but he says no pace, no width , no goal threat , no WEMBLEY
Lescott and Brown missed sitters, Different game then had they gone in.I don't get how it's deemed dangerous as 8/10 he barely leaves the ground. If anything the tacklers end up hurting themselves more often than not by Yacob existing and being a solid entity, rather than the actual tackle.
Yacob shouldn't have got sent off, But he always does that 2 footed jump tackle so only himself to blame.
That's exactly the point though isn't it? Pulis could easily play McManaman and Sess on the wings from the start, but chooses not to. Instead it's Brunt and Gardner. Hence no threat.
Pulis won't play poco or gamboa they will both be sold in the summer. Weve got a couple of years of centre halves at full back and our better midfielders on the bench to allow idiots like yacob to play. We are a really poor team. I hate watching us play now even more than under Irvine
They would never won with Lambert in charge. You have to credit Sherwood for allowing them to start playing again. Villa's build up was far superior ours. Lots of runs forward from midfield. TP plan works whilst its a clean sheet. When we are chasing the game, we are dependant on long balls forward hoping for a good knock down, and from set pieces.
Yacobs second tackle not a foul, but with his style of play, he is always playing on the edge and many refs are looking for him.
We can get relegated for all I care now, they have let us down massively. A massive part of my love for the Albion has died today, will take a lot to get it back
Yacob has been great since he has been placed back in the team, today he was booked for absolutely nothing was so ever.yacob is an awful player. Can't tackle. No pace. Hardly ever intercepts the ball because he is so slow. Mulumbu can do everything he can do and so much more
If Sherwood had been our manager, we would be at Wembley
If Sherwood had been our manager, we would be at WembleyNo we wouldn't. Vile are going down
Pulis is the sc*m of English football, all Albion supporters have known that for years.Stop yourself. He will keep us up and thats what he's been brought in for.
Get him out ffs....
No we wouldn't. Vile are going down
Steve Madeley â€@smadeley_starthe players have been a big let down twice this week. bottom line is they just aint good enough.
Suggestions that several Albion players were confronted by fans after the final whistle. I saw the aftermath of a McManaman spat
Sorry for the players,they have done their part,they shouldn't being blamed.
In fairness McManaman started that. He was shoulder barging them all.
Not with a team that can't run mate.would Sherwood leave mac and sess on his bench,i doubt it mate they can both run
We can get relegated for all I care now, they have let us down massively. A massive part of my love for the Albion has died today, will take a lot to get it backI know emotions are running high but that comment is out of order. Don't want us to go down, no way. It hurts but it's typical us
would Sherwood leave mac and sess on his bench,i doubt it mate they can both run
What a bizzare statement.How is it bizarre? Sherwood would NOT have taken us to Wembley in the state we're in. And saying the Vile are going down is just positive / hopeful thinking that is keeping me sane after a rubbish week of football.
The consequences of the last five days are potentially devastating. I'm 40 years old and can't remember feeling as low as this ever and that includes the Derby play-off final defeat and various relegations. Going into this week Villa were on the ropes, staring relegation in the face. We had the opportunity to put them away twice. This is a very poor Villa side. And yet we bottled it twice.
Our tactics were woeful in both games as was the performance of most of the players. But we approached (both) games so negatively that we never gave ourselves a chance and handed the initiative to Villa. TP will talk about how we need to move on and focus on staying in the Premiership but this will hurt us (the fans) for a long, long time and will not endear him or his tactics to the real supporters.
Time will tell what the ultimate fall-out from this week will be, but it has the potential to be far reaching and long lasting.
TP was employed to keep us up, not to win the Cup, unfortunately , today it showed !How sad is this comment....
Pulis is the sc*m of English football, all Albion supporters have known that for years.
Get him out ffs....
If Sherwood had been our manager, we would be at Wembley
We can get relegated for all I care now, they have let us down massively. A massive part of my love for the Albion has died today, will take a lot to get it backthis comments make me laugh people where saying the other day I sherwood keep him away from my team and for the guy that called tony pulies scum have a word with yourself yes we lost but get a grip of yourself we will stay up and go again next season with better finshing we would have won
the players have been a big let down twice this week. bottom line is they just aint good enough.
Totally agree, the clearout, which is long overdue, must now be surely evident to every1
I agree. The club shot a lot of nails into the coffin this week with a lot of fans.But we know from physical evidence on multiple forums that that isn't true. It's results that matter, it starts there and ends there. Most folks couldn't care less about how you do it, so long as you do it.
The majority of Albion fans want to see better football than what we have been served with under Clarke, Irvine and Pulis.
Also it bothers me a lot that our players simply gave up after Villa's goal. The midfield stopped working and started to hide and the back four only hoofed the ball. We still had plenty of time to make a real go of it but we fell to pieces yet again. So poor.
Pulis also needs to accept that his approach in both games was very deeply flawed.
yacob is an awful player. Can't tackle. No pace. Hardly ever intercepts the ball because he is so slow. Mulumbu can do everything he can do and so much moreyou must be watching a different yacobhe to me then mate. He as been superb since coming back into the team!!
this comments make me laugh people where saying the other day I sherwood keep him away from my team and for the guy that called tony pulies scum have a word with yourself yes we lost but get a grip of yourself we will stay up and go again next season with better finshing we would have won
How sad is this comment....Try reading AGAIN what I said, then toddle off and pull your friggin head in
You are really saying he has been employed to save Peace's paper fortune.
The cup matters to supporters, I don't care how much money Peace loses if we go down I want some success, for my team, that is what should really matter to supporters that really care.
Agree with Caravan's comment 'the players have been a big let down twice this week. bottom line is they just aint good enough.'Going from history, he one of the WORST at identifying and buying players in the market. He massively overspends on players of usually similar or only slightly better quality (I can hear the "so what else is new"already) . He knows a good 'keeper when he sees one though.
As said above this is the real reason we are in the mess we are & why TP says its a big job to stay up! Non of the summer signings got/get a game with TP or AI. They cant be both wrong!
There's a big rebuilding job to be done, we've got a lot of older players some that have been here a long time personally I'm happy for TP to do it! might not be everybodys cup of tea but thats what opinions are all about!
Pulis is the sc*m of English football, all Albion supporters have known that for years.please don't speak for me, in this pathetic comment you have posted.
Get him out ffs....
How sad is this comment....sooner win the cup and get relegated than just make up the numbers every year. am sick of seeing this club surrender every time it gets close to a final. this weeks defeats are amongst the worst ive ever known because we had a massive chance to reach Wembley. I will most definitely not be purchasing our 4 season tickets next year from what ive seen so far under pulis, he gets results but the attitude of not losing rather than having a go to win a game goes against my thoughts how the game should be played. and I do not think even after he gets players he wants it will be any different.
You are really saying he has been employed to save Peace's paper fortune.
The cup matters to supporters, I don't care how much money Peace loses if we go down I want some success, for my team, that is what should really matter to supporters that really care.
Agree with Caravan's comment 'the players have been a big let down twice this week. bottom line is they just aint good enough.'agree with this completely, some fans should be careful what they wish for
As said above this is the real reason we are in the mess we are & why TP says its a big job to stay up! Non of the summer signings got/get a game with TP or AI. They cant be both wrong!
There's a big rebuilding job to be done, we've got a lot of older players some that have been here a long time personally I'm happy for TP to do it! might not be everybodys cup of tea but thats what opinions are all about!
Agree with Caravan's comment 'the players have been a big let down twice this week. bottom line is they just aint good enough.'agree with this completely, some fans should be careful what they wish for
As said above this is the real reason we are in the mess we are & why TP says its a big job to stay up! Non of the summer signings got/get a game with TP or AI. They cant be both wrong!
There's a big rebuilding job to be done, we've got a lot of older players some that have been here a long time personally I'm happy for TP to do it! might not be everybodys cup of tea but thats what opinions are all about!
But we know from physical evidence on multiple forums that that isn't true. It's results that matter, it starts there and ends there. Most folks couldn't care less about how you do it, so long as you do it.
If Sherwood had been our manager, we would be at Wembley
Going from history, he one of the WORST at identifying and buying players in the market. He massively overspends on players of usually similar or only slightly better quality (I can hear the "so what else is new"already) . He knows a good 'keeper when he sees one though.
A bit over the top mate.In a way I have to agree with the original poster, my love for Albion started to die when Pulis was appointed.
sooner win the cup and get relegated than just make up the numbers every year. am sick of seeing this club surrender every time it gets close to a final. this weeks defeats are amongst the worst ive ever known because we had a massive chance to reach Wembley. I will most definitely not be purchasing our 4 season tickets next year from what ive seen so far under pulis, he gets results but the attitude of not losing rather than having a go to win a game goes against my thoughts how the game should be played. and I do not think even after he gets players he wants it will be any different.Unfortunately, 14or 15 clubs will ALWAYS be making up the numbers in the greed league.
I agree. Pulis doesn't really strike me as the man to oversee our much needed overhaul in the summer. That is IF we get an overhaul.
In a way I have to agree with the original poster, my love for Albion started to die when Pulis was appointed.
Get him out....
He improved Stoke year on year. The spine of his team is the spine that Mark Hughes decides to use today. Whelan and Crouch (both Pulis signings) have even been given contract extensions during the last window.
Stop yourself. He will keep us up and thats what he's been brought in for.Stop myself, one supported Albion for 55 years, and Pulis is without doubt the worst manager I have ever known.
Stop myself, one supported Albion for 55 years, and Pulis is without doubt the worst manager I have ever known.
Did you not look at today's team sheet.
We had no chance, the man is a disaster.
Pulis can only work with what he has.Wasn't there a transfer window in January?
But how much money did he use, and how much money did he waste? I haven't followed Stoke closely enough to know.
Stop myself, one supported Albion for 55 years, and Pulis is without doubt the worst manager I have ever known.Worst manager, that is laughable. Did you get abducted by Aliens for 10 years in the 90's?
Did you not look at today's team sheet.
We had no chance, the man is a disaster.
Stop myself, one supported Albion for 55 years, and Pulis is without doubt the worst manager I have ever known.Laughable comment , worst manager .... :o.
Did you not look at today's team sheet.
We had no chance, the man is a disaster.
Stop myself, one supported Albion for 55 years, and Pulis is without doubt the worst manager I have ever known.I have also supported Albion for over 50 years, luckily my senility has not progressed as far as yours.... Worst manager indeed ! You have got to be joking
Did you not look at today's team sheet.
We had no chance, the man is a disaster.
Stop myself, one supported Albion for 55 years, and Pulis is without doubt the worst manager I have ever known.
Did you not look at today's team sheet.
We had no chance, the man is a disaster.
[/quote not our worst manager,but I did think todays team sheet was an april fool joke come early
Stop myself, one supported Albion for 55 years, and Pulis is without doubt the worst manager I have ever known.
Did you not look at today's team sheet.
We had no chance, the man is a disaster.
Why? We've had much worse managers, much much worsetell me one manager we've had who has played 4 centre halves at the back playing against a team with one striker who never scores with his head. he went for height when we needed pace, he dropped a massive clanger today.
Different manager , same story...missed chances, lack of pace and poor ball retention.Every team misses chances. We don't set ourselves up to create very many though, so they're all the more crucial when we miss them.
tell me one manager we've had who has played 4 centre halves at the back playing against a team with one striker who never scores with his head. he went for height when we needed pace, he dropped a massive clanger today.
Some embarrassing comments on here.Pulis can only work with what he has. At Palace he had Bolasie and Puncheon who do we have Brunt and Morrison. Villa won both games with pace and flair we don't have any.We are team full of plodders who try now and then but lack quality. This method probably suits us more when we play the big teams. But like previous years we are rubbish when we play similar teams.We are one of the slowest teams in the league and tonight proved it. Let's just get to 36 points and rebuild in the summer.I know its dissapointing but TP will get us sorted out in the summer I am certain of that. I ain't going to bash TP he has already got us one foot in the league next season and that was his job.sorry have to disagree , granted TP has the players working harder and so make us a harder team to beat, but if you continue to use 4 central midfielders with no pace , central defenders playing full back and leave players on the bench who can actually go past players and inject a bit of pace into the side, you can have all of the possesion you like but you only create the odd chance which if you do not take you will lose and I think the two games against Villa illustrated that point admirably
Dawson created the best chances of the game. His form has been good at full back so why drop him?
It's easy to use Captain Hindsight.
Dawson created the best chances of the game. His form has been good at full back so why drop him?so why bring in another centre half in Olsson, this meant lescott got shoved to left back and he looks awful playing there. who said anything about dropping dawson.
It's easy to use Captain Hindsight.
But how much money did he use, and how much money did he waste? I haven't followed Stoke closely enough to know.
Pulis is competent in this league, but playing Lescott as full back, for one example, and a flat 442 no matter what is just nonsense. This in itself is a square peg in a round hole approach which isn't smart. I'm so fed up with such endless nonsense from our head coaches.
Another problem with 442 is that for as long as he has been at the club Morrison has been too light weight for a 442, Yacob too slow in the middle for a 442, Gardner never was good enough really but we signed him anyway because he was cheap and local so let's play him in a 442 and Brunt always was too slow and ponderous for a 442. (Mulumbu with Yacob in the middle of a 442 is not an option because we have zero creativity in that setup.)
So, what do we play, we play 442 - twice. And Villa run rings around us, twice. We play straight into Villa's ONE strength and we play straight into KNOWN PROBLEMS with our players... TWICE within a week.
That is just too stupid for me.
Gah.
Some embarrassing comments on here.Pulis can only work with what he has. At Palace he had Bolasie and Puncheon who do we have Brunt and Morrison. Villa won both games with pace and flair we don't have any.We are team full of plodders who try now and then but lack quality. This method probably suits us more when we play the big teams. But like previous years we are rubbish when we play similar teams.We are one of the slowest teams in the league and tonight proved it. Let's just get to 36 points and rebuild in the summer.I know its dissapointing but TP will get us sorted out in the summer I am certain of that. I ain't going to bash TP he has already got us one foot in the league next season and that was his job.the point is pulis doesn't work with what he has got,no pognoli,no sess,no mac,hardly feature if sess and mac aren't able to play for whatever reason why have them on the bench and not use them,his team selection today was a joke especially with the players he could of picked
so why bring in another centre half in Olsson, this meant lescott got shoved to left back and he looks awful playing there. who said anything about dropping dawson.
Jonas Olsson should never play for us again. Looked good for a few years when nobody else could defend but sinc GMac has been here he's looked dreadful. At fault for the first goal - ran backwards for 40 yards and didn't even attempt to tackle. Absolutely dreadful player.not so sure...
Jonas Olsson should never play for us again. Looked good for a few years when nobody else could defend but sinc GMac has been here he's looked dreadful. At fault for the first goal - ran backwards for 40 yards and didn't even attempt to tackle. Absolutely dreadful player.
not so sure...
Dawson was the right of the 4 and that is where we were massively exposed for the first ??
Correct. He was at fault for the first goal and Mulumbu for the second. But it's easier to blame Pulis and his full back choices it seems :)You just seem to be here to wave a flag for Pulis no matter what. It might be OK when we don't lose, but it doesn't half grate given the manner of our 2 defeats this week, following on from parking the bus at Sunderland when they were there to be beaten.
Correct. He was at fault for the first goal and Mulumbu for the second. But it's easier to blame Pulis and his full back choices it seems :)
Correct. He was at fault for the first goal and Mulumbu for the second. But it's easier to blame Pulis and his full back choices it seems :)but they are not fullbacks are they, they are centre halve playing out of position, hang on a minute im just going to put my dirty washing in the tv then see whats on the microwave.
You just seem to be here to wave a flag for Pulis no matter what. It might be OK when we don't lose, but it doesn't half grate given the manner of our 2 defeats this week, following on from parking the bus at Sunderland when they were there to be beaten.
but they are not fullbacks are they, they are centre halve playing out of position, hang on a minute im just going to put my dirty washing in the tv then see whats on the microwave.in fairness thierry henry was supposed to be a winger , Wayne rooney has been played in midfield, at this level players should be able to deal with the basics in most positions and its not like Lescott/dawson hadnt played those roles before ?
in fairness thierry henry was supposed to be a winger , Wayne rooney has been played in midfield, at this level players should be able to deal with the basics in most positions and its not like Lescott/dawson hadnt played those roles before ?.
I think the biggest problem is that Tony hasnt got "his" team yet , next season will be when to judge..
Disliking the manager won't change any of those facts.I like to think that I'm objective and try to call each game on its merits (or lack of!). I've been baffled by the team selections and tactics of late and regard them as being a significant factor in our results over the past 7 days. We missed 2 good chances today, but so does everyone. Our problem is that we're not creating many chances in the first place (and not really trying to create many), so the missed ones are more damaging.
I'm lost....we totally dominated them for 30 mins.......if Brown had scored that sitter, we'd of really turned the screw. Sometimes you just don't get the rub of the green......accept it!
Villa fan I know was in the lower tier of the north stand and said people were leaving with cuts to the head.
It wasn't the whole seats that done the damage but the ones that were broken would be like daggers.
1) We looked in charge first half. Classy even.You reckon? Apart from the chance which Ideye should have scored, what did we actually create, apart from 1 or 2 half-chances?
Saw the seats flying in the north, pathetic.My sentiments exactly, I was ashamed to be amongst some of the Tw@@@s in the North Stand. After all these years and thousands of miles my very last away match.
If they find the ones that did this, hope they get the strongest punishment.
Only problem with local derbies, brings out the idiots who come to 1 game in a blue moon.
Dissapointing to see our fans in the media putting a negative spotlight on the club.
Never want to go to villa park again. :(
I feel serene compared to Tuesday, which is when I think this game was lost or certainly Foster's rush of blood went a long way towards this result.
Today we made a classic football faux pas. We didn't score when we were on top. And in that first half we were well on top, Ideye should have scored twice though I believe the header may have been stopped by a Villa hand? Like Tuesday night it was a tale of two goalkeepers, Given looked comfortable and composed and competent much like Guzan on Tuesday and our keepers, well the less said about Foster the better, but today Delph's goal has gone striaght through Myhill at his near post. Not good enough for a Premier League keeper. We also had a chance at a lifeline but Lescott instead of heading the ball straight, turned his head, an appalling miss from a top player.
You mention our big players didn't perform Jacko, well they can't perform when they're on the bench! (Mulumbu, Sessegnon)
Did anyone go in the witton arms and see any of this ?
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/03/07/pitch-invasions-mar-aston-villas-fa-cup-victory-over-west-brom/
The police tweeted early on that the Witton Arms was at capacity. It was closed post-game.
I honestly think the police were trying to dig up reasons to prevent any late kickoff in future
There was a lot of trouble outside the Witton Arms prior to kick-off with police ringing the roundabout. Also a lot of Albion fans held on coaches until virtually kick off.I went by coach and didn't get until 10 minutes after kick off.
I think its always closed to away fans after the game, was on tuesday and I think also last season.They'd closed it to everyone. That was half the problem after the game, it meant all the villa fans were hanging around outside, provoking those approaching Witton train station. The police were blocking traffic outside the station which also didn't help
I wanted something to shout about, I wanted to ram the gloating down their throats and finally shut them up instead I've got to put up with more of the same idiotic rubbish of these Vile fans.
Seriously I feel let down by Albion today in a big way and I might be hurting still but a part of me died today... I've always been able to pick myself up from other defeats and let downs but these last 2 have really kicked be in the nuts and quite possibly for the last time.. Not sure I want to waste my Saturday afternoons watching these vastly overpaid gits go through the motions!
I can take let downs, I can take defeat but this is the straw that broke the camels back for me...I'll not waste anymore time on these when it could be better spent with my new daughter
I'm hurting off this I'm really hurting
Pulis will go down in history for me - the only manager to lose twice to Villa in one week >:(
Negativity, stubborn and not fully utilising the players he has at his disposal
BTW
Don't get me onto the biased BBC reporting or the Ref
:o
Did enough first half to win the game. You will never see Olsson back peddle like that again, he will body check the attacker and take the yellow card. Or he will never play in a Pulis team.
Pulis will go down in history for me - the only manager to lose twice to Villa in one week >:(BBC bias was nothing compared to BT on Tuesday night - really annoying laddish approach on BT....all pundits in love with Sherwood with Steve McManaman the worst.
Negativity, stubborn and not fully utilising the players he has at his disposal
BTW
Don't get me onto the biased BBC reporting or the Ref
:o
We are never going to score 100% of our chances. We need to create far more quality chances in away games and put a few of those away. This set up the bus nonsense is boring and ineffectual.
Pulis failed in these two games against a poor Villa.
BBC bias was nothing compared to BT on Tuesday night - really annoying laddish approach on BT....all pundits in love with Sherwood with Steve McManaman the worst.
Scott Sinclair - early days but suddenly looking the player he was at Swansea again. Has something clicked and he realises he has to save his career or was it a combination of injury and lack of opportunity that stopped him when he was with us ?
Did enough first half to win the game. You will never see Olsson back peddle like that again, he will body check the attacker and take the yellow card. Or he will never play in a Pulis team.got that wrong mate that's the last time we'll see Olson in an Albion shirt, pathetic defending but why should we be shocked done that his entire baggies career
Scott Sinclair - early days but suddenly looking the player he was at Swansea again. Has something clicked and he realises he has to save his career or was it a combination of injury and lack of opportunity that stopped him when he was with us ?Scott Sinclair suddenly looking the player he was at Swansea ? Or just playing against defender's no faster than Helen Flannigan :)
He nearly created a chance before the end of 1st half.
Thought he was poor aside from the goal (oxymoron I know)
We didn't need to score 100%. We needed to score 14%. Ideye x 2, Berahino x 3, Brunt, Lescott.7 chances - dizzy heights, woohoo!
Another muppet#
Every team misses chances. We don't set ourselves up to create very many though, so they're all the more crucial when we miss them.Every team misses chances , not many other sides miss ones like we do . Our finishing has been poor for a good while now.
I was hit by something thrown from the vile lot to my left in the Doug Ellis and spent the last 10 mins of the game with St Johns ambulance men and two stewards who asked me four times 'was it Albion lot throwing stuff'. No it bloody well wasn't.bloody hell mate, hope you're ok !
Coaches left the Hawthorns at 4PM, and we missed the kick-off after being parked in the road watching Albion fans queueing up to get in, Have to say I havent seen so many people looking totally bladdered at a match before.
Scott Sinclair suddenly looking the player he was at Swansea ? Or just playing against defender's no faster than Helen Flannigan :)Well no doubt in the same circumstances we'd have left him out in order to play one of the usual suspects
I'm embarrassed to have been beat twice in a week by this shower of pooh!
Why would you bother getting a coach to villa anyway, 3 miles away!Because at 68 years of age and having witnessed extreme violence in the bad old days I feel safer just taking a short walk across the road to the ground. I was there on Tuesday and sensed that there may be trouble yesterday.I saw Albion supporters behaving like total idiots yesterday and I have no desire to wander the streets with them. Instead went for a few beers and something to eat in the Sportsman before getting on the coach.
Why would you bother getting a coach to villa anyway, 3 miles away!cause for many it was easier than going into Brum and out again by train. Over 700 went by coach.
Every team misses chances , not many other sides miss ones like we doI haven't analysed it, as I'm sure you haven't, but I'm pretty sure that they do. Look at almost any match report and you'll almost always see that so-and-so missed a glorious chance. You have to create more to minimise the impact of the misses. 5, 6 or 7 attempts on goal each game isn't typically going to get the job done.
I think there's too much tacit acceptance in this thread trying to justify why a load of thugs tore up seats and threw them randomly at people. The only ones to blame are those who did it and I hope they're all identified and made an example of by the club.Agree they should be made an example of, there again what should happen to the Villa fans who invaded the pitch before the end of the game, and don't forget it is a criminal offence to enter the filed of play while the game is in progress are the authorities going to identify the many fans who invade the pitch and charge them?
bloody hell mate, hope you're ok !
Why would you bother getting a coach to villa anyway, 3 miles away!
Aye I'm fine. Was with my 55 year old Mom and her female pensioner friend who for the first time in my 20 years going to games wanted to leave early. Think it was a lighter that hit me as it was bigger than a coin but not as sharp.
Don't in any way condone what Albion fans did in the slightest but the stewarding, police and organsation of fans yesterday added to that boiling pot. Why not give us the whole North Stand - no sideways thrown missiles, no downward thrown seats. Ugly ugly day. The fact the stewards didn't throw out the idiots the other side of the cordon to us in the Doug Ellis, who from the first minute to the half hour mark were issuing the usual hard man 'meet me outside' challenge before they could throw things is beyond me.
I'll add Vile Park to the list of grounds I'll never go to again. Scunthorpe is on the list but only because it made me depressed to go to what looked like a post apocalyptic trading estate with bits of corrugated metal strewn in the car park.
Not everyone lives 3 miles away...surely you can't be that stupid??
I take it you live at The Hawthorns then?
Agree they should be made an example of, there again what should happen to the Villa fans who invaded the pitch before the end of the game, and don't forget it is a criminal offence to enter the filed of play while the game is in progress are the authorities going to identify the many fans who invade the pitch and charge them?As there were so many then it'll be difficult to identify them, but any that can be identified should be punished as well. I'm not really interested in the Villa fans though, I'm ashamed by what these Albion "fans" did.
I haven't analysed it, as I'm sure you haven't, but I'm pretty sure that they do. Look at almost any match report and you'll almost always see that so-and-so missed a glorious chance. You have to create more to minimise the impact of the misses. 5, 6 or 7 attempts on goal each game isn't typically going to get the job done.
Myhill deserved credit yesterday,both two goals were not his fault.
After having to suffer two games of abuse,threats and disgraceful behaviour from Villa stewards and the police, I'm not entirely surprised that a section of Albion fans reacted in this way,although I was in the Doug Ellis lower and didn't see the seats been thrown myself. Before the game yesterday,on the corner of the Doug Ellis and the North Stand,it was a disgrace the way the police were treating the Albion as opposed to the Villa who were doing exactly the same thing in terms of confronting and gesturing to each other. It was the Albion who had the police batons drawn at them and who were getting pushed around while the Villa were abusing,threatening and offering us out from behind police lines. Why didn't the coppers turn around and batter them instead? Same in the ground, the coppers were more interested in watching and filming us than they were the Villa scum getting away with blue murder behind their backs. Whilst not condoning the seat throwing, this combined with the sheer frustration of everything being witnessed could explain the reason why some Albion reacted.
i can accept losing games, hell it ain't as if I'm not used to it ........... but Villa are fking pooh. The last two games from Albion's perspective have been a mini disaster and I for one expected a lot better.
I don't blame Pulis, the whole club from the top down needs looking at. It has "small time" written all over it. No wonder other clubs think they are big compared to us, our attitude is that of small time losers and the quicker we accept that and decide to address it the better. Dim Tim going on now about how big and superior villa are to us. FFS, Baggies fans grow a pair of balls and stand up for the club. 90% of what makes the world go round these days is image, propaganda and downright bull .............. but guess what people get affected by it.
Act small, you will be small ................ end of. 26,000 stadium ................ a joke for any progressive Premiership club if you consider the bigger picture.
I don't blame Pulis, the whole club from the top down needs looking at. It has "small time" written all over it. No wonder other clubs think they are big compared to us, our attitude is that of small time losers and the quicker we accept that and decide to address it the better. Dim Tim going on now about how big and superior villa are to us. FFS, Baggies fans grow a pair of balls and stand up for the club. 90% of what makes the world go round these days is image, propaganda and downright bull .............. but guess what people get affected by it.
You can add the supporters too. How many people say "I don't mind going down as long as we play well." That's defeatist before you even kickoff.Alternatively, we can play well and stay up. Pulis is the man to suck the football out of football club but at least we will be in the Premier League to watch him do it.
Pulis is the man to shake things up. Some people won't be happy with mid table every year, but that's better than being a yo-yo club again.
Alternatively, we can play well and stay up. Pulis is the man to suck the football out of football club but at least we will be in the Premier League to watch him do it.
Is that down to Pulis or you preferring to finish in the top 2 of the Championship?Do you ever watch your own team, you seem to know so much about ours?
You were very lucky to stay up with Mel in charge. And you were heading straight down to the Championship with Irvine in charge. How is that breathing life into a club? With a full Pulis season you will be mid table easy. Or would you prefer somebody like Irvine because he claims he's a purist?
Do you ever watch your own team, you seem to know so much about ours?
As this is the after match debate thread, what is your view on picking Lescott at left back based on his previous performances there? What is your view on bringing Olsson back having not played all season into a must win game? What is your view on playing unfit players because fit ones were released to other clubs? Is playing centre halves or wingers at full back a good attacking move?
Pulis is the man to shake things up. Some people won't be happy with mid table every year, but that's better than being a yo-yo club again.
I wouldn't have played Olsson myself. He was at fault for the first goal and Mulumbu for the second. So I'm not surprised to see they're not regulars. Lescott and Dawson both did well at full back. The two best chances of the game actually came from Dawson's work on the right.Berahino and Brown who are both unfit and probably should have done better, but it's ok because we only lost two nil rather than by 5. ???
Lescott and Dawson are not the reason you lost. Should Brown have missed his 2 chances from 5 yards out? Should Lescott have missed his header from 3 yards out? Would you bank on Berahino doing better with his 2 attempts? That's 5 good chances that would have been goals in recent weeks. It's not like you were hammered 5-0, you got done on the break twice.
Part of a statement from the club
It issues an uncompromising reminder today that any supporter found guilty of disorder offences can expect the appropriate sanction from the club. West Bromwich Albion will continue to operate zero tolerance to any fans who bring the Club’s reputation into disrepute.
Read more at http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/west-bromwich-albion-official-statement-aston-villa-2321977.aspx#cTzLp7TykS7CDAtb.99
Aye I'm fine. Was with my 55 year old Mom and her female pensioner friend who for the first time in my 20 years going to games wanted to leave early. Think it was a lighter that hit me as it was bigger than a coin but not as sharp.your posts always make me and the missus smile (er with braced arm), I woe be going to scunnie for me hols now
Don't in any way condone what Albion fans did in the slightest but the stewarding, police and organsation of fans yesterday added to that boiling pot. Why not give us the whole North Stand - no sideways thrown missiles, no downward thrown seats. Ugly ugly day. The fact the stewards didn't throw out the idiots the other side of the cordon to us in the Doug Ellis, who from the first minute to the half hour mark were issuing the usual hard man 'meet me outside' challenge before they could throw things is beyond me.
I'll add Vile Park to the list of grounds I'll never go to again. Scunthorpe is on the list but only because it made pppme depressed to go to what looked like a post apocalyptic trading estate with bits of corrugated metal strewn in the car park.
You lost a game yes. But you didn't get hammered.
When people calm down and look back on the game they will see it was closer as has been made out on here. Better finishing and better defending on the breaks and it's a different scoreline. That's football!
You lost a game yes. But you didn't get hammered.It's not just the losing that hurts though. It's WHO we lost to. Not just once, but twice in a week. I have no idea who you class as your local rival (Vale), but if the circumstances were reversed, I'm not so sure you'd be over moon to have us telling you 'thats football'.
When people calm down and look back on the game they will see it was closer as has been made out on here. Better finishing and better defending on the breaks and it's a different scoreline. That's football!
Can't believe he was allowed to ref this, biggest game of the weekend should have been give to Michael Oliver in my opinion
How do clubs police a life time ban? Obviosuly their name is black listed but what is stopping them purchasing in a relatives name or a fake name?
Nothing really other than the risk of being spotted and further punished
So a life times ban is worthless in reality then. If they behave themselves and keep their head down they will go unnoticed.
Life time Ban is way to far for anyone who threw a chair, maybe a ban to the end of the season but shouldnt be any more than that
Life time Ban is way to far for anyone who threw a chair, maybe a ban to the end of the season but shouldnt be any more than that
Life time Ban is way to far for anyone who threw a chair, maybe a ban to the end of the season but shouldnt be any more than thatYou could kill someone. There is no defence for what these morons did.
It was the height of stupidity having Villa fans in the lower tier. They should have either just given us the lower tier as an extra (they didn't sell out anyhow and we would have filled it easily) or just given us the entire North Stand without any of the Doug Ellis. Whilst some Albion fans behaved disgracefully I'd also like to say that the behaviour of the Villa fans, the general organisation and policing of the game was beyond a joke. It is going to be tasty when Villa next come to the Hawthorns that's for sure.
Some footage from half time
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=730483013733675&id=274260099355971&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.molineuxmix.co.uk%2Fvb%2Fshowthread.php&_rdr
Has it been reported anywhere about those who invaded the pitch at the end (which I have no problem with), ran right up to the Doug Ellis lower and pelted us with coins?No they hid behind the police and threw coins and the police did nothing .... If the police wasn't there I would have done something.... Cowards
Has it been reported anywhere about those who invaded the pitch at the end (which I have no problem with), ran right up to the Doug Ellis lower and pelted us with coins?
No, nowhere as it was a "celebratory" pitch invasion.
Yep already 2 on talksport blaming Albion fans for spoiling there joyous pitch invasion ... Do no albion fans call talksport???
I haven't analysed it, as I'm sure you haven't, but I'm pretty sure that they do. Look at almost any match report and you'll almost always see that so-and-so missed a glorious chance. You have to create more to minimise the impact of the misses. 5, 6 or 7 attempts on goal each game isn't typically going to get the job done.It's something I've been aware of for a while actually for a few seasons now, as a team we are very wasteful in front of goal...one of our problems imo , one of a few granted.
How did we spoil it? :D
Nearly 24 hours on and I can only say that I think some of you are easily impressed if you thought we played well (or even acceptably) yesterday.I actually thought 1st half we were decent/ok, if we had taken those chances most would say good enough.2nd half awful , lofted balls to nobody .
No they hid behind the police and threw coins and the police did nothing .... If the police wasn't there I would have done something.... Cowards
got that wrong mate that's the last time we'll see Olson in an Albion shirt, pathetic defending but why should we be shocked done that his entire baggies careera few seasons ago we never won a game unless he started,i do agree he looks a shadow of his former self now
a few seasons ago we never won a game unless he started,i do agree he looks a shadow of his former self nowIt's a bit hard to be critical of a bloke who was thrown into a quarter final having only played 360 minutes of Premier League football this season and having just returned from long term injury.
It's a bit hard to be critical of a bloke who was thrown into a quarter final having only played 360 minutes of Premier League football this season and having just returned from long term injury.if you think im being critical have a look at the original comment im replying too
Quite right. I was down the front of the Doug Ellis lower at the end of the game screaming at the thick police to "open their f*****g eyes, turn round,stop filming us and do something about the real trouble makers". For two games now, the Villa scum have got away with everything. Inside and outside the ground the police attention was focused on whacking and being abusive to Albion fans. The Villa get away with it again.Same reaction from me, to which they respond by filming me (or at least the area around me, hard to tell)
if you think im being critical have a look at the original comment im replying tooIt was a general comment tagged on to your response for continuity ;)
I however have a lovely new zippo lighter with AVFC engraved on it as evidence of there being more to that invasion than 'friendly celebratory actions'.
Celebratory pitch invasion or not, entering the field of play during a game is a criminal offence so through sheer volume of lawbreakers they haven't got a leg to stand on. I however have a lovely new zippo lighter with AVFC engraved on it as evidence of there being more to that invasion than 'friendly celebratory actions'. Though if I took it to the club they'll only suggest I mugged someone after the game to get it.this is what amuses me about police stats.............6 people arrested for public order offences as this is what covers pitch invasions !!
People have had life time bans for a lot less
You could kill someone. There is no defence for what these morons did.
I always find it amusing how they throw £1 or even £2 coins the morons. If I were going to chuck coins I'd stock up on the old 2ps.
Not condoning for 1 second throwing anything into a crowd whether that is a coin or a seat back, only a mindless idiot would do that but saw a photo earlier today with a pile of broken seat backs near the hoardings, I reckon 10-12 seats. There was a bloke behind who looked like he had repaired the damaged seats as there were 10-12 new looking seats with a slightly new blue colour.
Are we talking about 10-12 seat backs getting broken or was it a lot worse than that? If that is the number then I reckon 3-4 people have caused that damage. Mindless idiots that deserve a lengthy ban who are no fans of WBA.
As others have said, there were no stewards at the Holte End, Police were looking to contain the minority but at 7000 and spread in different areas they could not cope. Policing and stewarding was a shambles.
Hopefully there will not be a fixture next year as we will be in the PL and they in the Chumps!! ;)
Not condoning for 1 second throwing anything into a crowd whether that is a coin or a seat back, only a mindless idiot would do that but saw a photo earlier today with a pile of broken seat backs near the hoardings, I reckon 10-12 seats. There was a bloke behind who looked like he had repaired the damaged seats as there were 10-12 new looking seats with a slightly new blue colour.
Are we talking about 10-12 seat backs getting broken or was it a lot worse than that? If that is the number then I reckon 3-4 people have caused that damage. Mindless idiots that deserve a lengthy ban who are no fans of WBA.
As others have said, there were no stewards at the Holte End, Police were looking to contain the minority but at 7000 and spread in different areas they could not cope. Policing and stewarding was a shambles.
Hopefully there will not be a fixture next year as we will be in the PL and they in the Chumps!! ;)
Because at 68 years of age and having witnessed extreme violence in the bad old days I feel safer just taking a short walk across the road to the ground. I was there on Tuesday and sensed that there may be trouble yesterday.I saw Albion supporters behaving like total idiots yesterday and I have no desire to wander the streets with them. Instead went for a few beers and something to eat in the Sportsman before getting on the coach.
Aston Villa fan needed bloody wound GLUED back together after West Brom supporters hurl seats at rivals
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2984695/Aston-Villa-fan-needed-bloody-wound-GLUED-West-Brom-supporters-hurl-seats-rivals.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2984695/Aston-Villa-fan-needed-bloody-wound-GLUED-West-Brom-supporters-hurl-seats-rivals.html)
"Went down to the advertising boards so they couldnt reach"
More.like you were going on the pitch you to55er.
The seats started coming into us on tuesday night first. Karma.
Beer + Morons = Drunken Morons!
I hope they all get identified on camera, charged and banned from attending a football match for a very long time.
There were also a couple of fathers in front of me with young children and they were subjected to this moronic behaviour and the constant foul language directed at Sherwood and Agbonlahor...... disgraceful.
when the big occasion came our manager and players couldnt cope with it.
Thats what has hit home the most for me
A lot of this team are simply not good enough
Thats what has hit home the most for meLet's face it some of them aren't good enough played in position, but out of it they have no chance.
A lot of this team are simply not good enough
Definitely a mixture of above but the main one for me would the 5.30pm kick off time.Thus allowing everyone to drink all day long.
Pitch invasion being discussed on Talksport now.
They have launched a very successful social media campaign, from coming onto the pitch to avoid seats being thrown on them and being spat and coined by us.
People have to individually responsible for their own behaviour, full stop end of story. Those who caused trouble, from both sides, are entirely to blame and there are no excuses for them.I agree with this, it's a shame for the real fans who couldn't get tickets instead of these idiots.
We lost twice! Lets get over it! This team isnt the 1st to be turned over by the Vile, unfortunately its pretty much par for the course judging by our record against them! Ive posted this on another thread & I'll put it here!Agree massively. It's a bitter pill but some fans are going on as if we've just been put into administration, no wonder some Villa fans call us obsessed, we have to get over it.
Albion v Villa
Games won: 53
Games drawn: 36
Games lost: 76
Also we've lost the last 6 against them in the cup! Anybody remember the last 4-0 drubbing!
edit - we've only beaten them 3 times since 1985
http://www.11v11.com/teams/west-bromwich-albion/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Aston%20Villa
They wont win the cup, just as we probably wouldnt have! One or Two jollys to Wembley to lose to ManU, Arsenal or Liverpool!
We need to move on now & get the points in the bag to stay up!
People have to individually responsible for their own behaviour, full stop end of story. Those who caused trouble, from both sides, are entirely to blame and there are no excuses for them.
Spot on.
I went to the game, behaved myself and then went home.
I knew it was going to be a bad night from kick off, when the commentator said:
"And it's West Brom in their changed strip of white shirts and navy shorts to get us under way".
Oh dear...
Added the option of COMBINATION OF ABOVE as not one single element is to blame regardless of what the media are trying to spout fuelled by villa fans claiming the moral high ground.
Albion had a share of idiots throwng seats but it wasn't Albion fans throwing coins into the Albion end, it wasn't Albion or Villa fans who decided it would be a great idea to kick off at 5.30 so all those wanting to could get tanked up before the game.
I have stated in previous posts that it was all down a combination of the above but this was mainly a discussion on what people thought was the main catalyst behind the whole mess.
I'm sure we would all agree that it was down to a combination but this was to get the discussion going in more detail. :)
But you cannot claim that one single thing was the catalyst behind it as it wasn't one single thing.
I dread to think what they will be saying tonight on Radio WM the whole issue will end up being our fault.I've already requested on here that anyone that had witnessed some of the horror stories, should call in tonight. The vile, and Franksie, are going to crucify us. I would, but I wasn't there. C'mon now...one of you must have a good phone manner.
Coming up on talksport again cue friendly pitch invasion not assaulting players and throwing coins hiding behind the police !!has any one actually seen any filming of this seat throwing, not saying it didn't happen but the way everything gets filmed today just wondered why ive seen nothing.
To be honest I haven't a problem with them going on the pitch after the final whistle, we have done it many a time over the last 10 years; palace, Pompey, wolves, Southampton and then small invasions against Newcastle first year in prem, Barnsley twice. Obviously people having a pop at our players should get dealt with
Yeah I heard that and thought what the hell is the bloke going on about...
Just proves how little the media actually knows about us
And it also proves that we should be playing in NAVY BLUE AND WHITE STRIPES! The media rightly associate us with the stripes, just as every football fan in the land does. Yes, the commentator should have brushed up on us a bit better perhaps, but maybe, just maybe, that slip of the tongue might help get us our proper home kit back for next season!I seem to remember Pearce saying similar in a League game (west Ham?) 2-3 seasons ago. He's done it before and means the "proper stripes" wouldn't make a blind bit of difference.
has any one actually seen any filming of this seat throwing, not saying it didn't happen but the way everything gets filmed today just wondered why ive seen nothing.I can't find it now, but I've seen a video where there's clearly something being thrown down, plus there's images of broken chairs and a very injured head around.
I can't find it now, but I've seen a video where there's clearly something being thrown down, plus there's images of broken chairs and a very injured head around.There was a clip of a seat being thrown on Central news but the Villa fanzine bloke was trying to pass the pitch invasion off as a joyous celebration! btw they dont care about us do they?
Liverpool/Blackburn v The Vile
Bradford/Reading v Arsenal
All set for a Gerrard final v the holders!! right up the FA's/TV street!!
Watch the left of the picture , mcmanaman shoulder charging a fair few
i was in the North stand and as soon as Sinclair scored you could hear the smashing of seats. Then a load was being chucked down towards the front hitting our fans and some going over the top. Pathetic really pathetic. Me and my daughter went then along with many others. Walk back to the car was fine like it has been everytime I have been there..just one or two of our lot giving verbals to OAPS ! Disgrace on the field and off by our lot...but Vile fans are ffking deluded and I hate them with a passion and they need to be bought to book for throwing missiles as well..how the hell did they get a flare in !?
Mcmanaman what a legend. Standing his ground to the thugsAfter the third shoulder bash he turns round and is like "SOMEONE JUST FIGHT ME ALREADY!!"
Apparenly Villa fans are tagging in the FA...snides the lot of them.They won't get banned
If the FA charge Morrison, Mcmanaman and GMac what type of message does that send out to pitch invaders.
Nice one Mcmanaman :D Can't stand Villa. Bunch of gobshites. Always been cowardly rats unlike Albion, Blues and Wolves. Not condoning idiots but if you dish it out you've got to be able to take it.
There are plenty of people on this thread and others that seem to see it as an exercise in oneupmanship with Villa fans. They seem to regard the inexcusable and unforgivable behaviour of some Albion fans as secondary. Setting aside the fundamental lack of self-responsibility in those who did it for a moment, stoking up tribalism and the associated acceptance of loutish behaviour is a factor in perpetuating such behaviour. It doesn't happen at rugby matches.
The lack of self-responsibility is the biggest issue. The vast majority of us managed to go to the game, get behind the team, behave ourselves and go home peacefully.
If you can't have a few beers without resorting to seat throwing or whatever you need to quit the drink!
There are plenty of people on this thread and others that seem to see it as an exercise in oneupmanship with Villa fans. They seem to regard the inexcusable and unforgivable behaviour of some Albion fans as secondary. Setting aside the fundamental lack of self-responsibility in those who did it for a moment, stoking up tribalism and the associated acceptance of loutish behaviour is a factor in perpetuating such behaviour. It doesn't happen at rugby matches.
As for Rugby matches well trying going to see a local derby in Wakefield, Yorkshire, between Wakefield and Castleford in Rugby League and tell me they aye no trouble.I would imagine that's the exception rather than the rule. I was thinking of Rugby Union more than Rugby League. The latter is a strange game to me! There's a strong rivalry between Worcester and Gloucester, but fans can manage to sit together with no segregation at games and not fight, run on the pitch, throw coins at each other or tear out seats.
I for one don't condone what the Albion fans did and have said that numerous times, but I am sick to death of the Villa fans saying it was all Albions doing. As for Rugby matches well trying going to see a local derby in Wakefield, Yorkshire, between Wakefield and Castleford in Rugby League and tell me they aye no trouble.
The coaches go from the hawthorns so they have to make it there anyway...... Just seems more trouble than it's worth, police escorts around the wrekin and having to stay on until the police say so and end up getting in late
I would imagine that's the exception rather than the rule. I was thinking of Rugby Union more than Rugby League. The latter is a strange game to me! There's a strong rivalry between Worcester and Gloucester, but fans can manage to sit together with no segregation at games and not fight, run on the pitch, throw coins at each other or tear out seats.There are thugs and cheats in Rugby union on the pitch so it is not just down to football.
There's an element of sportmanship in rugby that's wholly lacking in football in players and fans alike.
There are thugs and cheats in Rugby union on the pitch so it is not just down to football.
I would imagine that's the exception rather than the rule. I was thinking of Rugby Union more than Rugby League. The latter is a strange game to me! There's a strong rivalry between Worcester and Gloucester, but fans can manage to sit together with no segregation at games and not fight, run on the pitch, throw coins at each other or tear out seats.Nice edit ;) , while trouble may not be as often at rugby i know a lot of Leicester Tigers fans who don't look forward to their trip to Northampton Saints or Quins. I also know several who encountered hassle in Dublin a few weeks ago too down Temple Bar . Not as often but to say it doesn't happen at rugby (edited or not ) simply isn't true.
There's an element of sportmanship in rugby that's wholly lacking in football in players and fans alike.
Morrison and McManaman will not face any action according to the e&sDidn't expect anything else. The FA will now throw the book at Chris Brunt.
Villa fans probably crying now after all the fuss they made over it.No way. They'll still be relying on us being kicked out the league for the fire extinguisher incident.
No way. They'll still be relying on us being kicked out the league for the fire extinguisher incident.
No way. They'll still be relying on us being kicked out the league for the fire extinguisher incident.
Can't believe how much fuss they are making about that, its a schoolboy prank nothing more
I agree but it crosses a health and safety issue which is why I imagine those involved will be in trouble
Didn't Leicester City players do the same thing in Spain a few years ago.
Ironically it was that tosser Collymore that let the fire extuinguisher off in La Manga.
Quite frankly we might get a fine for the chair throwing and Villa will definitaly get a fine for the pitch invasions and that will be the end of it.
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then i woke up
Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. Villa fan Collymore set off a fire extinguisher, their fans tore up and threw seats at Blues not so long back and one of their ex players, Schmeichel (all be while at United) physically dragged and threw a Galatasaray supporter off the pitch. Not to mention numerous incidents of their supporters throwing flares.
Not to mention their fans at Bradford tearing up seats and damaging the toilets."No way was that the Vile fans they wouldn't do such a thing, it must have been the Bradford fans".