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Favre appears to have walked away from Palace offer. Says he wants longer away from  football. Bizarre. He's 63 and been out of work since start of the year.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: Yesterday at 07:38:59 PM »
Here's another interview from May this year, just after Barnsley's first play-off game against Swansea. He sounds a bit like Arsene Wenger, whose voice/accent I do quite like!

Youtube

For anyone who's unaware, Valérien is 6'3" and stocky - I'm sure few argue with him! On top of that his mother is an Alsation.......as in the Alsace region of France!  :D
Wenger comes from the Alsace region which would explain his accent.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: Yesterday at 05:49:49 PM »
Oh yeah Athletic  article also said in true Albion style we tried to get him cheaper than the £2m clause and Barnsley generously offered to let us pay £250k of the £2m on finance which we declined.
Not wanting to sound negative, but if someone did try to poach him before the 4 years, they would have to pay us compensation, but if we sacked him, we'd have to pay him off for the years on his contract?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: Yesterday at 04:43:51 PM »
Gruess dich Valerien!  Viel Spass und Erfolg bei der Albion!

(just in case he's reading)

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: Yesterday at 12:35:39 AM »
Favre has agreed to become Palace manager, permit permitting - The Athletic
Will be very interested to see how Favre gets on. Plays more attacking football than Roy, and did well at Dortmund and M'Gladbach. But I think he got the push at Dortmund because the players stopped playing for him. Last time Palace found a top coach from the Continent, Frank de Boer, it didn't work so well. 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 23, 2021, 01:38:55 PM »
E and S, being held up by how to pay compo Barnsley want it upfront Albion want to pay instalments.
Much as everyone, me included, just wants to get it over the line, that's a legitimate issue. Its partly what held up the Grant transfer for so long, because we couldn't pay up front (though in Grant's case we would have been better saving the entire transfer fee). 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 23, 2021, 01:07:20 PM »
According to Masi in the E & S, Ismael favours playing with attacking wing backs, which gets a massive thumbs up from me. Looking at the Dutch and German teams in the Euros, their use of attacking wing backs has paid dividends,  I think in all their goals.
Of course, you need players in those positions who will deliver, ie get in behind their opposite numbers, and deliver dangerous crosses, so there is a slight question mark of how effective Furlong and Townsend would be. 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 22, 2021, 04:39:09 PM »
I guess an important part of the negotiation is to do with Ismael's assistants. If he insists on taking some with him from Barnsley, that might mean extra compo.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 21, 2021, 10:48:47 PM »
Cracking atmosphere in Copenhagen. Brought back some happy memories of holidays there. Don't actually rate Danmark team that highly, but shows you how a crowd can raise the performance of a team. Mind, a bit unfair on the away teams. 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: June 21, 2021, 02:52:52 PM »
Its only right that the transfer gets put on hold until the new manager has had a chance to look at him. I think we will need some very fit midfielders. Also when you look at the fee of just one million, we don't stand to lose a lot of money. If there are better midfielders who become available, we can always review our decision.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 21, 2021, 02:40:24 PM »
I have a good positive vibe about Ismael. It could have been much worse.
I doubt very much it will turn out to be old-fashioned kick and rush. The one fear you have with that, is that creative midfielders get made redundant. It would be ironic if Pereira was still here and got by-passed, but I assume you would still need players like him where the ball lands, so to speak! i.e. hovering around the edge of the opposition penalty box where they can apply the final assist.

It looks like it will be high energy box to box, so the players will need to be super fit. (Can see that being a problem for several).

I hope he uses wingers, or at least attacking wing backs, but that shouldn't be in conflict with his overall tactical philosophy.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: June 21, 2021, 02:20:02 PM »
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1452165/Arsenal-transfer-news-Andre-Silva-talks-Stan-Kroenke-spending-spree
Arsenal have done themselves some good business if they get Andre Silva in. The bloke is an absolute goalpoacher scoring 28 in the Bundesliga last season.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 20, 2021, 02:03:02 PM »
Several German media sources said Ismael was one of 3 on the shortlist for Werder Bremen job. As it happens, someone else got chosen at the start of the month, but even so, indicates he is on the radar of big clubs such as Bremen. 

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 19, 2021, 06:00:57 PM »
Interesting that the Germans are playing Kimmich as right wing back when he is probably their most dynamic midfielder.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 19, 2021, 05:54:09 PM »
Some of these VAR decisions on a knifedge. Hope Taylor doesn't mess up.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 19, 2021, 01:55:32 PM »
Alright, now that Ismael is looking more likely I had a little dig around LASK forums to see what they think of his time with them. Before I get to that I'd just like to say that I remember them playing intense, direct football, but certainly not hoofing it. In fact their fans reckon he actually increased possession from their previous manager Glasner. Under him they were already playing 3-4-3 with an intensive press, so Ismael just seemed to tweak things a bit and mostly keep with what the squad was used to.

The other thing I remember is that LASK under Ismael came the closest to beating Red Bull to the title than anyone in recent years. They fell apart completely after the Covid break, when they trained illegally and got docked points. I don't know who took the decision on those training sessions, whether it was him or those higher up.

There are also some reports of him falling out with the hierarchy and other staff but with all sorts other recent scandals coming out of the club (like involvement in third party ownership and all sorts of frictions and accusations within the board itself, I'd judge the club itself to be quite rotten.

In general their fans seem to prefer him to the guy who replaced him and they certainly have not improved since then. Just how much of his success is down to what Glasner built I don't know.

Here are a couple of quotes in English from a LASK forum when Barnsley fan asked them about him:

and...

I'm certainly happier with us taking a punt on Ismael than somebody like Wilder or the dreadful list of names that has been doing the rounds  ;D Let's hope he's learnt some lessons from the past and I'm sure he will not try to replicate his Barnsley tactics one to one.
Vienna
As someone who is familar with the Austrian football scene, I presume you are not saying he was a better manager than Oliver Glasner? If you are, that's a big statement, because as you know, Glasner has just got Wolfsburg to third in the German Bundesliga and into the Champions League. (In fact he was one of those I had down, somewhat optimistically, for the WBA job).
Also, in contrast, when Ismael was in charge at Wolfsburg 2016-17,  they struggled,  and he only lasted 4 months, although Wolfsburg seem to get through managers faster than most. 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 18, 2021, 11:37:50 PM »
So if Ismael come in, what players may follow him in?
Decent chance of Mowatt following his former boss.
Could also see if Daryl Dike fancies a full season on loan under Ismael.
If its him, I'd be hoping he has a far wider spectrum than just Barnsley players. He must have some good insight into European players who maybe were beyond Barnsley's budget, though the new work permit rules will make it more complicated. 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 18, 2021, 05:37:29 PM »

What it actually said was "no formal approach had been made", which I would guess means we're discussing the Barnsley compensation package.
Agreement on that would give us permission to speak to him.
Presumably Ismael also has to make up his mind if he's interested.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 18, 2021, 02:00:12 PM »
I haven't seen enough of his teams or Barnsley to come to a definite view, but he's something different from all the usual names mentioned.

Obviously, don't want Route One Hoofball, if that's what is, but indications are its alot more subtle. Good to see possession stats indicate team hold onto the ball longer and that the team doesn't just sit in its own half, both of which are diferent to Pulis teams.

The post from Vienna Baggie was interesting. He mentions the Austrian fans preferred him to Oliver Glasner, who has a good reputation in Germany and just got Wolfsburg into the Champions League.
Quite excited if we can get him over the line. Still a lot to find out about him, but his stats look good.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 18, 2021, 12:57:01 PM »
Article in the times this morning suggests UEFA are considering moving the semi’s and final away from Wembley to Hungry unless U.K. government relaxes rules to allow 2500 officials and vips into the country and skip any Covid checks/quarantines.

Wouldn’t it be typical for England to get to a semi final in the year we were supposed to host it and it gets moved away  :D
German Government advising fans not to travel to UK because of the Indian Delta variant.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Manager Thread
« on: June 18, 2021, 12:21:46 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/17/crystal-palace-sound-out-former-borussia-dortmund-manager-lucien-favre

Palace are in for ex Borussia Dortmund manager Lucien Favre.  Wish we were as ambitious.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 17, 2021, 10:14:20 PM »
The Dutch have so many creative players, but they overdo it too much, like they don't know when to shoot. Was surprised their defence held out as they are always vulnerable when put under pressure. Pleased for Frank de Boer that it came off today.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 17, 2021, 09:35:28 PM »
De Paay irritates me. Extremely talented but miles too nonchalant.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 17, 2021, 08:57:17 PM »
It would have been great if they had not given the Dutch penalty and had pulled it back for the dive 5 seconds earlier.  There’s too much reward for diving or initiating contact and not enough of a deterrent.

I can’t see any ref haven’t made that call, but it would have been nice!
But it was a penalty. He clearly stamped on the guy's foot in the pen. area.

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General Football & Sports / Re: EURO 2020
« on: June 17, 2021, 08:51:12 PM »
Two pretty average teams IMO. Austria have nothing. Alaba is wasted at the back he's poor there and without Arnautovic they are toothless up front. Netherlands best of a weak group.
Turning out a good game. Holland should be 3 up, but they keep trying to walk the ball into the net.

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