[jimmyj]

Yeah, not sure what the alternative is.  Bring in a manager who will want to stay here forever no matter who comes knocking?

Its unreasonable to expect that. Who has that sort of manager now? Burnley is the only one I think of. And that's probably more to do with the fact that no-one fancies giving Dyche a bigger job.

[keithowba86]

Will only take a bad season for Moyes and a good one for Lampard and the inevitable will happen

[Mooncat]

I'm sure I read somewhere that the average 'life expectancy' of a PL manager is about 18 months - obviously skewed by a few clubs (like Watford and to some degree us having a few managers a season but equally Man U & Arsenal with SAF & AW at the other end).
So what is 'long term'?

Another name I think should be in the hat, but won't be as we'd have to buy him out of his contract would be Sean Dyche - constantly gets Burnley punching above their weight which is what we need to be doing

[mini gaardsoe]

Another name I think should be in the hat, but won't be as we'd have to buy him out of his contract would be Sean Dyche - constantly gets Burnley punching above their weight which is what we need to be doing

And there's zero chance he's leaving Burnley to come to us.

[WorcsWBA]

Its no good turning our nose up at appointments because they don't plan on hanging around for the long haul.

Nuno was at Wolves for 4 years, I don't think that's unrealistic for us if we can find the right person. Managers having an average incumbency of 18 months is an unsustainable nonsense in my view.

Speaking of finding the right person, it seems likely that the Board must have known immediately after relegation was confirmed (if not sooner) that Allardyce wasn't going to stay. Therefore, they should be well on their way to finding a successor by now. The new manager should be here in time to have a say regarding the retained list.

[Hunnington Baggie]

Nuno was at Wolves for 4 years, I don't think that's unrealistic for us if we can find the right person.

Speaking of finding the right person, it seems likely that the Board must have known immediately after relegation was confirmed (if not sooner) that Allardyce wasn't going to stay. Therefore, they should be well on their way to finding a successor by now. The new manager should be here in time to have a say regarding the retained list.

if journalists are correct, interviews will be over the next fortnight.

[jimmyj]

Nuno was at Wolves for 4 years, I don't think that's unrealistic for us if we can find the right person. Managers having an average incumbency of 18 months is an unsustainable nonsense in my view.

Speaking of finding the right person, it seems likely that the Board must have known immediately after relegation was confirmed (if not sooner) that Allardyce wasn't going to stay. Therefore, they should be well on their way to finding a successor by now. The new manager should be here in time to have a say regarding the retained list.

Fair point, but I think they are/were a bit of special case. I had this conversation a few times with my Wulf friends, and commented on how insulated their players (and Nuno) were from being poached by bigger clubs. Whereby most other clubs of their level (Saints, Newcastle, Leicester at the time) would regularly have their better players picked off by Liverpool, United and City, Wolves seemed not to suffer from this. The Mendes effect. No one wanted to antagonise the superagent. And I think that extended to Nuno as well. No big club wanted to run the risk of making an enemy of Mendes, so they left well alone.

[gazberg]

Nixon saying Wilder still no.1 choice but still issues, has to be the pay, talking to others now.

[liverbaggie]

I want Frank.
He's young, has something to prove and would come to us in the championship if agreeable.
He's not a football snob as far as I can tell by wanting to coach in the PL.
He seems eager to learn and will demand respect.
Because of his stature in the game I think he could talk to the magician and keep him for another season.
We don't know if he even wants to leave do we?
He may be happy here and might feel he owes us another 12 months to get back to the PL.
Also, Frank seems open and is a good talker with fans and press
He will improve our profile in the footballing world its a win win for me.
The ex sheffu guy is another dour Pullis, big Sam etc etc no to that guy from me.

[WorcsWBA]

if journalists are correct, interviews will be over the next fortnight.

If that's true, then I think the club has been sleeping on the job by not being further down the road than it is. They managed to get things agreed with Allardyce whilst Bilic was still in post.

[Hunnington Baggie]

If that's true, then I think the club has been sleeping on the job by not being further down the road than it is. They managed to get things agreed with Allardyce whilst Bilic was still in post.

difference was they actively wanted to keep Sam.

[WorcsWBA]

difference was they actively wanted to keep Sam.

Yes, but they must have known since at least May 9th (and quite possibly earlier) that Allardyce was leaving.

[Atomic]

Interviews have already started according to Joe Masi.

The only two confirmed as being on the list are Wilder and Lampard.

[tuamigos]

According to some reports, Lampard is out of the running for the Palace job. 'Palace have moved on' according to it.
Eddie how is also out of the running.
Personally I'd settle for either one of those here.

[hardtobeat]

Nixon saying Wilder still no.1 choice but still issues, has to be the pay, talking to others now.

Could be the issues are around recruitment, he isn’t/ wasn’t too keen on a DoF previously

[jimmyj]

I'm leaning towards Lampard now.

- Point to prove
- links to good young loanees
- reputation to attract players in recruitment
- Only manager that may be able to persuade MP to stay.

Someone get Adrian Chiles to get in his ear.

[skyclad99]

Interviews have already started according to Joe Masi.

The only two confirmed as being on the list are Wilder and Lampard.

Masi with another 'scoop'

NSS!

[Hull Baggie]

According to some reports, Lampard is out of the running for the Palace job. 'Palace have moved on' according to it.
Eddie how is also out of the running.
Personally I'd settle for either one of those here.

Wasn't it reported the other week that Lampard had ruled himself out of the Palace job as he thought they needed too much of a rebuild and would end up in a relegation battle?

[WBA.R.K]

Wasn't it reported the other week that Lampard had ruled himself out of the Palace job as he thought they needed too much of a rebuild and would end up in a relegation battle?

To be fair he's not wrong, it is one hell of a rebuild. I think I saw somewhere that they've got a whole starting 11 leaving!

[Hull Baggie]

To be fair he's not wrong, it is one hell of a rebuild. I think I saw somewhere that they've got a whole starting 11 leaving!

Think it's only 7 players so very similar to us. We'll most likely have to replace Johnstone, Pereira, AMN, Gallagher, Yokuslu and Diagne and then there's the likes of Gibbs, Austin and HRK(hopefully)..can't remember the others that are out of contract but we will need some decent first team squad players. Some of the U23's may be able to step up and maybe some of the players we have out on loan but it's still a big rebuild.

[SmethDan]

Think it's only 7 players so very similar to us. We'll most likely have to replace Johnstone, Pereira, AMN, Gallagher, Yokuslu and Diagne and then there's the likes of Gibbs, Austin and HRK(hopefully)..can't remember the others that are out of contract but we will need some decent first team squad players. Some of the U23's may be able to step up and maybe some of the players we have out on loan but it's still a big rebuild.

Have a scroll down, not sure if any have twelve month options but that's quite a list.....

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/crystal-palace/vertragsende/verein/873

[NJS]

I want Frank.
He's young, has something to prove and would come to us in the championship if agreeable.
He's not a football snob as far as I can tell by wanting to coach in the PL.
He seems eager to learn and will demand respect.
Because of his stature in the game I think he could talk to the magician and keep him for another season.
We don't know if he even wants to leave do we?
He may be happy here and might feel he owes us another 12 months to get back to the PL.
Also, Frank seems open and is a good talker with fans and press
He will improve our profile in the footballing world its a win win for me.
The ex sheffu guy is another dour Pullis, big Sam etc etc no to that guy from me.

To respond to your points:
"He's young, has something to prove and would come to us in the championship if agreeable. "
> neither being young nor having a point to prove makes him a good manager.  It does make him inexperienced.
"He's not a football snob as far as I can tell by wanting to coach in the PL."
>  don't see how this is an argument
"He seems eager to learn and will demand respect. "
>  then learn by normal route of being a second in command and moving to a league 2 club
"Because of his stature in the game I think he could talk to the magician and keep him for another season."
>  it's conjecture to say the MP knew Lampard before he came to England
"He may be happy here and might feel he owes us another 12 months to get back to the PL."
>  irrelevant to his management capabilities
"Also, Frank seems open and is a good talker with fans and press"
>  can't argue with that, our profile is bad to risible

"The ex sheffu guy is another dour Pullis, big Sam etc etc no to that guy from me."
> I'm not a great fan of Wilder but he has achieved a lot more that Lampard coach-wise and done it with scant resources.

[WBA.R.K]

In other news, Sheffield United are set to name Jokanovic as manager according to the BBC.

[gazberg]

Could be the issues are around recruitment, he isn’t/ wasn’t too keen on a DoF previously

Very true, forgot about that. Either way sounds and feels like a ballache already. I'd rather us move on.

[Atomic]

Wilder is a xxxxxx good manager with a wealth of experience and a very impressive CV.

I just have a nagging doubt, wrong timing, achieved his peak.

If he gets the job I'll get right behind him, no problem.

There's just something inside me that is ringing alarm bells. Might just be me, I fully accept I might be wrong.