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Who do you want as manager

Michael Appleton
19 (5.9%)
Derek McInnes
9 (2.8%)
Alex Neil
1 (0.3%)
Chris Wilder
68 (21.1%)
Steve Cooper
12 (3.7%)
Frank Lampard
105 (32.6%)
John Terry
1 (0.3%)
David Wagner
10 (3.1%)
Valérien Ismaël
30 (9.3%)
Garry Monk
0 (0%)
Eddie Howe
37 (11.5%)
Nicky Butt
1 (0.3%)
Marco Silva
4 (1.2%)
Other (British based coach)
6 (1.9%)
Other (Foreign based coach)
19 (5.9%)

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« Reply #675 on: May 21, 2021, 09:18:30 PM »
https://twitter.com/RobDorsettSky/status/1395834523733139456?s=19

Four on the list. Wagner, Cooper and Lampard added to Wilder

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« Reply #676 on: May 21, 2021, 09:22:31 PM »
Lampard or Cooper would be perfect, wilder has a great record but doesn’t suit the squad. Please no to Wagner, awful for schalke.

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« Reply #677 on: May 21, 2021, 09:23:40 PM »
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Four on the list. Wagner, Cooper and Lampard added to Wilder

I don't believe that for a minute, I've seen several people on SM claim Wilder is a done deal. Everything else is just lip service.

Hope they're (I'm) wrong.

Of those 4 I'd only really want Cooper. So come on Barnsley!!  :D
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« Reply #678 on: May 21, 2021, 09:25:14 PM »
I don't believe that for a minute, I've seen several people on SM claim Wilder is a done deal. Everything else is just lip service.

Hope they're (I'm) wrong.

Of those 4 I'd only really want Cooper. So come on Barnsley!!  :D

Be very happy with Cooper but can't see us paying compo

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« Reply #679 on: May 21, 2021, 09:28:38 PM »
I'm starting to come round to Lampard as number one option of those visibly available.

Timing can be everything. I just think he suits us and we'd suit him. Right man, right time.

Cant really find a negative. Prem experience with Chelsea, got Derby to play offs in his first managerial job with lesser resources than we have (look at how they have fallen since).

Young, hungry, respected figure in the game.

Looks the perfect fit.

He'd be my first choice.

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« Reply #680 on: May 21, 2021, 09:31:41 PM »
We're not in the Premier league

Weeeeelllll we are for another two days.

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« Reply #681 on: May 21, 2021, 09:51:21 PM »
I don't believe that for a minute, I've seen several people on SM claim Wilder is a done deal. Everything else is just lip service.

Hope they're (I'm) wrong.

Of those 4 I'd only really want Cooper. So come on Barnsley!!  :D

Same here I want Cooper, a proper head coach with a good style of football

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« Reply #682 on: May 21, 2021, 09:58:21 PM »
I'm starting to come round to Lampard as number one option of those visibly available.

Timing can be everything. I just think he suits us and we'd suit him. Right man, right time.

Cant really find a negative. Prem experience with Chelsea, got Derby to play offs in his first managerial job with lesser resources than we have (look at how they have fallen since).

Young, hungry, respected figure in the game.

Looks the perfect fit.

He'd be my first choice.

Why would he come here? Did his time in the Champ out in the provinces with Derby.  Surely he'll be looking for a PL gig or at least a London club. 

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« Reply #683 on: May 21, 2021, 10:01:34 PM »
He spent £18.5m on Arron Ramsdale who is terrible. He also spent:

Rhian Brewster - £23.4m (bags of potential but ruined in their ultra defensive shape and tactics)
Oli McBurnie - £20m (average championship striker)
Sander Berge - £22m (average championship midfielder)
Lys Mousset - £10m (again I think he is a dangerous player but another striker in the Sheff Utd graveyard)
Ben Osborn - £5m (I don't even know who he is)

If Luke Downing had the above record he'd have been murdered by now.

Matter of opinion I suppose, I think Ramsdale is pretty good and if I remember rightly a lot of people of here wanted to sign him to replace SJ so if the transfer had happened people would now be crucifying Downing for doing what people wanted (sometimes the guy can’t win) The same with Brewster, after the end to the season he had in the Championship with Swansea, similar to Grady & Grant, I don’t think anyone could have envisaged him being as poor as he has been, I’d 100% have him her next season if given the choice. Berge is also a hell of a lot better than what we have and is pretty young. I suppose my only gripe is the cost of the players but sometimes in football these days it’s what you have to pay to get your targets I for one don’t really pay much attention to actual transfer fees since the whole neymar to PSG rubbish
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« Reply #684 on: May 21, 2021, 10:10:18 PM »
Why would he come here? Did his time in the Champ out in the provinces with Derby.  Surely he'll be looking for a PL gig or at least a London club.

Why would Bilic have come here? Or Di Mateo? You make it sound like we are a xxxx job. We arent.

Albion are an attractive club in the Championship and why not come to a club like us and potentially gain a promotion and an upward curve? Better than joining a Palace or a Burnley and risk pigeon holing yourself as a bottom six Prem manager at such a young age.

The more I look at it the more I think Lampard should be determined to get our job, if he has ambition. He'd have a great chance of promotion which can only boost his CV.



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Re: New Manager Thread
« Reply #685 on: May 21, 2021, 10:31:00 PM »
https://twitter.com/RobDorsettSky/status/1395834523733139456?s=19

Four on the list. Wagner, Cooper and Lampard added to Wilder
People reading my posts will know I've been pushing for a German or continental manager, so what do we do, consider the one who has been a complete flop. Wagner set a new club record for Schalke going 18 games without a win, including a 0-8 battering v Bayern. True, the next series of Schalke managers couldn't stop their relegation, and they finished further adrift than Sheff Utd. But what is it that attracts the club to these super non-achievers?

At the same time we have Edin Terzic who got Borussia Dortmund to the Champions League quarter final, won the German Cup, who is available. And he even meets Allardce's criteria of having worked in England as he was assistant to Bilic at West Ham.   
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Re: New Manager Thread
« Reply #686 on: May 21, 2021, 10:33:28 PM »
He spent £18.5m on Arron Ramsdale who is terrible. He also spent:

Rhian Brewster - £23.4m (bags of potential but ruined in their ultra defensive shape and tactics)
Oli McBurnie - £20m (average championship striker)
Sander Berge - £22m (average championship midfielder)
Lys Mousset - £10m (again I think he is a dangerous player but another striker in the Sheff Utd graveyard)
Ben Osborn - £5m (I don't even know who he is)

If Luke Downing had the above record he'd have been murdered by now.
Ramsdale has been the form keeper of the last 2 months, Berge is signing for Arsenal. Brewster has had a bad year. McBurnie is not 'an average' Championship striker. Did well at that level.
Three promotions, nothing wrong with Wilder. Sure some transfers are poor ... all managers have mixed transfer records. If you think we are better than managers like him, Wagner, and Lampard, good luck to you.
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Re: New Manager Thread
« Reply #687 on: May 21, 2021, 10:58:16 PM »
Let's face it, Wilder has as much chance as any manager of taking us up - there are a number I'd back. We'll be back to being a BIg Fish after all.

Big question is is would he be able to make us stick? I don't think so.

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« Reply #688 on: May 21, 2021, 11:04:01 PM »
John Fleck is the only one out of those I've heard of, so I doubt Sheff Utd would be where they finished if they were that good. The fact remains, people criticise Billic or Allardyce or both, but they achieved considerably more than Chris Wilder, but we are apparently in for him.

That says more about you than the players in question who have been an integral part of Sheff United success over the last few years.

The three defenders that were mentioned would more than likely walk into our side.
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« Reply #689 on: May 21, 2021, 11:07:30 PM »
Cooper my favourite. But Cooper, Wilder and Lampard all pretty good options for me.

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« Reply #690 on: May 21, 2021, 11:18:46 PM »
https://twitter.com/RobDorsettSky/status/1395834523733139456?s=19

Four on the list. Wagner, Cooper and Lampard added to Wilder

Out of these 4, I would love Cooper..

I really do not want Wagner and I think the romance story at Huddersfield often covers some of the terrible football they played.

There are notable concerns about Wilder.

Lampard just seems fanciful in my eyes
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« Reply #691 on: May 21, 2021, 11:22:09 PM »
Out of these 4, I would love Cooper..

I really do not want Wagner and I think the romance story at Huddersfield often covers some of the terrible football they played.

There are notable concerns about Wilder.

Lampard just seems fanciful in my eyes

The fanciful Lampard for me followed by Cooper.


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« Reply #692 on: May 21, 2021, 11:29:48 PM »
Of the four supposedly on the shortlist , it’s Lampard for me . We almost certainly are going to have several loans next season and I think Frank’s connections should prove more than useful!

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« Reply #693 on: May 21, 2021, 11:49:14 PM »
Lampard, Lampard, Lampard. what was the fourth choice?
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« Reply #694 on: May 21, 2021, 11:53:48 PM »
Taking the Dorsett tweet at face value this is my order of preference to scale

1. Cooper




2 Wilder

3 Wagner



4 Random fan picked by a lottery gets to take the team for a week



5 Frank Lampard

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« Reply #695 on: May 22, 2021, 12:06:47 AM »
Taking the Dorsett tweet at face value this is my order of preference to scale

1. Cooper




2 Wilder

3 Wagner



4 Random fan picked by a lottery gets to take the team for a week



5 Frank Lampard

I would swap 3 & 4 around  :)

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« Reply #696 on: May 22, 2021, 12:07:39 AM »
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Four on the list. Wagner, Cooper and Lampard added to Wilder
If that really is the short list, and how reliable Dorsett is I don't know, I would go for Lampard without a doubt. Yes, we would have to put up with being Frank Lampard's West Brom, but it would make us higher profile, which should attract better players. Also, Lampard's teams play good expansive football, where I don't believe flair players would be stifled. Much rather that, than wondering if we were ever going to score, as I fear would be the case with Wilder. 
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« Reply #697 on: May 22, 2021, 12:33:17 AM »
Never ever take the big name former player who has been fast tracked to the top and now is on his way back down. It is not just irritating that we become known as Frank Lampard's West Brom  like some sort designer brand it's down right annoying when the designer brand is no more designer than some cheap knock off emanating from a lock up in Peckham.

 
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« Reply #698 on: May 22, 2021, 01:20:37 AM »
I couldn’t see Cooper leaving Swansea for Albion even if they fail in the play-offs and we were willing to pay the compensation(which I doubt we would be willing to do). Why would he want to leave what looks to me like a much better run club than Albion is at the present time.

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« Reply #699 on: May 22, 2021, 06:59:18 AM »
He spent £18.5m on Arron Ramsdale who is terrible. He also spent:

Rhian Brewster - £23.4m (bags of potential but ruined in their ultra defensive shape and tactics)
Oli McBurnie - £20m (average championship striker)
Sander Berge - £22m (average championship midfielder)
Lys Mousset - £10m (again I think he is a dangerous player but another striker in the Sheff Utd graveyard)
Ben Osborn - £5m (I don't even know who he is)

If Luke Downing had the above record he'd have been murdered by now.

No he didn't, it aint 1984 anymore, managers/head coaches have very little say in transfers and they certainly dont have the final say above the club. Also Wilder has had one poor season in his entire career which seems an amazing record to me.
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