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West Bromwich Albion FC / Leadership
« on: May 20, 2021, 10:36:37 AM »
Personally, I think the club is at a tipping point that if not managed and handled correctly, could seal a fate that would be unthinkable and affect us detrimentally for many years to come.

This is a time where the owner and those charged with the day to day management and running of the club need to step up to the plate and show real Leadership.

There is no room for complacency, some of the things that are needed, imo, are vision, a plan, hope and inclusion that fans can sign onto, direct, positive and incisive actions.

Otherwise, well, it doesn’t bear thinking about.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Tom Silk
« on: March 26, 2021, 07:28:50 PM »
The link below is to an article written by Chris Lepcowski and is an insightful read into the man, Tom Silk, who Chris describes as a visionary West Bromwich Albion director.

I believe it is worth a read


https://theblizzard.co.uk/the-crash/writing/

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Ainsley Maitland-Niles (on loan from Arsenal)
« on: February 01, 2021, 04:26:07 PM »
Sky reporting we have agreed a loan deal

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Okay Yokuşlu (on loan from Celta de Vigo)
« on: January 27, 2021, 06:50:08 PM »
Sam Allardyce targets signings of Mbaye Diagne and Okay Yokuslu to help West Brom @JPercyTelegraph

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General Football & Sports / Independent Football Regulator
« on: January 25, 2021, 05:02:09 PM »
Former sports minister to introduce bill in Parliament for independent football regulator.

'The governance of English football is broken and our national game is in crisis,' said Helen Grant MP

I think this initiative is needed. But before implementation, all stakeholders should be consulted, i.e. questionnaires, focus groups, open forums et al to identify all areas of concern.

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General Football & Sports / Success and Loyalty
« on: January 21, 2021, 06:51:08 PM »
I came across this interesting article in Reaction and could immediately relate to it.

Does anyone have empathy with the theory?

“When football clubs are less successful, fans are more loyal to each other”

Source: https://reaction.life/when-football-clubs-are-less-successful-fans-are-more-loyal-to-each-other/

Ps you do realise in spanking the Wolves, we’ve strengthened the D1ngle5 fans inbreeding 😂 You’ll understand when you read the article

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General Football & Sports / Premier League Referees
« on: December 30, 2020, 05:18:23 PM »
I found this post on another West Brom supporters forum

Mark Halsey

I have been in that situation when I have seen an incident and been told to say I haven’t seen it.

To be fair to the FA, it’s not them. It comes from within PGMOL. It doesn’t stop there. We’ve been told to give a certain amount of corners, or throw ins, fouls, booking etc.

The Premier League is rife with spot fixing and bias towards certain clubs from the FA. Every referee in the Premier League could be in front of a court one day soon.

The guy that posted it went on to say

I posted previously regarding Mark Halsey's comment below.  I've since been contacted by an ex referee who said this:

"As an ex referee up to football league standards I was often given instructions at halftime from a high up official from the refereeing committee to book or send off a particular player. I was told during a big cup semi final, as an assistant to award only goal kicks and no corners to one team. During the first half I refused and had an almighty row with the referee in the dressing room as I was getting so much stick from the home crowd. It’s worse today because of betting scams though and the FA are trying their hardest to keep certain teams down and will instigate as much anger towards teams that the press have jumped on the bandwagon". 
It appears football is rotten to it's core...🤬  The question is what can be done about it?

As many have alluded too, there maybe a level of manipulation within the Premier League and the PGMOL, it needs exposing if there is

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West Bromwich Albion FC / The Greater Challenge
« on: December 19, 2020, 12:57:34 PM »
Personally, for me, Promotion from the Championship posses the greater challenge on a whole raft of issues and I have listed below a few of my reasons for my assertion.

1. You play more games, with the obvious possible negative outcomes for players
2. There are shorter breaks between games, with the obvious possible negative outcomes for players
3. The Championship is, overall more competitive
4. The Championship is more physically demanding
5. Financial rewards restrict investment
6. Quality of officials not as good (marginal I know)
7. Ability to attract better Head Coaches
8. Ability to attract the better players reduced
9. Ability to attract better and proven coaching staff
10. Ability to attract investors / potential new owners diminished

It would be interesting to read the opinions and reasoning of other members, but nothing is easy or straightforward


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General Football & Sports / Fifa World Cup Qualifying Draw
« on: December 07, 2020, 04:35:57 PM »
The draw takes place at 17:00 GMT this afternoon

Pot 1: Belgium, France, England, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands.

Pot 2: Switzerland, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Austria, Ukraine, Serbia, Turkey, Slovakia, Romania.

Pot 3: Russia, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Czech Republic, Norway, Northern Ireland, Iceland, Scotland, Greece, Finland.

Pot 4: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Israel, Belarus, Georgia, Luxembourg.

Pot 5: Armenia, Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Azerbaijan, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Lithuania, Latvia, Andorra.

Pot 6: Malta, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Gibraltar, San Marino.

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General Football & Sports / C. D. Monda
« on: December 05, 2020, 04:33:59 PM »
My team in Spain, C.D. Monda are playing behind closed doors today and are streaming live on Facebook

HT

C.D. Monda 2-0 Casaras UD

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=730014797722595&ref=notif&notif_id=1607183844258731&notif_t=live_video_explicit

Monda are in Green and White stripes

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General Football & Sports / BBC Sports Personally of the Year 2020
« on: December 01, 2020, 07:54:43 PM »
Above are your six nominees, who will your vote go to?

Me, Stuart Broad

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Martin Swaine
« on: November 02, 2020, 03:39:54 PM »
I understand that Martin Swain is retiring and is being replaced by his deputy Ian Skidmore.

No doubt a few members on this forum will welcome the news of Martin's retirement, whilst others not so.

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General Football & Sports / Norbert “Nobby” Stiles
« on: October 30, 2020, 04:24:55 PM »
England world cup-winner and exAlbion Manager Nobby Stiles has died aged 78 after a long illness, his family has announced

R.I.P Nobby

You deserve your own thread imo

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General Football & Sports / Premier League 2
« on: October 15, 2020, 12:57:55 PM »
The Telegraph

Exclusive: FA chief Greg Clarke 'proposed Premier League 2 and B teams' in explosive leaked document

Football Association chairman Greg Clarke has been accused of floating the formation of a 'Premier League 2' and introducing B-teams into the Football League in secret talks with leading clubs....

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General Football & Sports / Project Big Picture
« on: October 11, 2020, 05:00:12 PM »
I believe that this topic is so important it needs its own thread.

Perhaps the mods can move posts from the Premier League thread to here.

My initial post

John Percy Twitter Account

World exclusive: Man Utd and Liverpool driving 'Project Big Picture' - football’s biggest shake-up in a generation.

The full Telegraph article, sorry in advance for the length of this post

World exclusive: Man Utd and Liverpool driving 'Project Big Picture' - football’s biggest shake-up in a generation
18-team Premier League, increased EFL funding and axing of League Cup among raft of proposals in 'Revitalisation' document seen by Telegraph

Manchester United and Liverpool are the driving force behind the biggest changes to English football in a generation and an extraordinary overhaul of the Premier League, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.
The two clubs have worked together on a radical set of proposals – called “Project Big Picture” - that will reshape the finances of the game. The Premier League, the most lucrative sports league in the world, would see a reduction to 18 teams, and controlling power in the hands of the biggest clubs.
In return for tearing up many of the rules that have governed the game since the Premier League’s inception in 1992 there will be £250 million rescue package to the Football League to see them through the Covid crisis.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal the details of the working document “Revitalisation” authored by Liverpool’s American ownership Fenway Sports Group with support from United. It anticipates the backing of the other members of the so-called big six, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur.
In a remarkable set of proposals, which will send shockwaves through the game, 25 per cent of the Premier League’s annual revenue will go to the EFL clubs with £250 million paid up front to see them through the current crisis. There would also be a gift of £100 million to sustain the Football Association.
However, there would be an abolition of the one-club, one-vote principle that has sustained the Premier League since its inception as well as the abolition of the threshold of 14 votes to pass any decision or regulation change.
Under the new proposals, the League Cup and the Community Shield would be abolished. There have been additional discussions that the League Cup would survive but without the participation of the clubs in Europe.
There would be two automatic promotion places for Championship clubs, but the third, fourth and fifth placed clubs would be in a play-off tournament with the 16th placed Premier League club.
The nine clubs who have been in the Premier League for the longest - which includes the big six - would dictate its running in every aspect and would be free to play more games in the expanded Champions League that is anticipated from the 2024-2025 season onwards.
As well as the Premier League dropping from 20 clubs to 18, there would be 24 in each of the Championship, League One and League Two making a total of 90.
The plan is supported by the EFL chairman Rick Parry who has held talks with Liverpool’s principal owner, the American investor John W Henry, and shareholder and director Mike Gordon. In addition, Parry has spoken to the Glazer family, who own United.
The talks began in 2017 but have been accelerated since the coronavirus pandemic has thrust football into the grip of crisis with no fans in stadiums until March at the earliest. Liverpool and United are prepared for a fierce debate over their proposals but they want them implemented as soon as possible.
The Revitalisation document calls for immediate action to cut dramatically what it calls the “revenue chasm” in earnings from television contracts between the Premier League and the EFL. In order to discourage Championship clubs from gambling recklessly on promotion, the parachute payments system would be abolished in favour of the 25 per cent share of Premier League revenue being shared more equitably among EFL clubs.
Under proposals for the new model of distribution of television revenue in the Premier League, Fenway, the driving force behind the document, insist there would be no greater share for the top six. Their stated aim is to eliminate the huge gap in earnings between Premier League and EFL clubs while in return having a greater control of the decisions made by the Premier League.
The document says: “A reset of the economics and governance of the English football pyramid is long overdue”.
The proposals also rewrite the Premier League’s 20-club democracy in favour of placing huge power in the hands of the nine clubs with the longest continual stay in the division. As things stand that is the big six, as well as Everton, Southampton and West Ham. Those nine clubs afforded “long-term shareholder status” would have unprecedented power, with the votes of just six of them required to make sweeping changes. These clubs would even be able to veto a new owner taking over a rival club.
In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph, Parry said that he had the support of many of his 72 members, many currently facing financial ruin, to go ahead with the plan. He said: “What do we do? Leave it exactly as it is and allow the smaller clubs to wither? Or do we do something about it? And you can’t do something about it without something changing. And the view of our clubs is if the [big] six get some benefits but the 72 also do, we are up for it.”
He accepted there would be opposition from the Premier League clubs outside the big six who would see it as detrimental to their financial prospects with less money and two fewer places in the top flight.
“It is definitely going to be challenging and it is an enormous change so that won’t be without some pain,” Parry said: “Do I genuinely think it’s for the greater good of the game as a whole? Absolutely. And if the [big] six are deriving some benefit then why shouldn’t they. Why wouldn’t they put their names to this otherwise?”
The proposals include:
•   £250 million immediately to the EFL to compensate its clubs for lost matchday revenue, deducted from future television revenue earnings and financed by a loan taken out by the Premier League
•   Special status for the nine longest serving clubs – and the vote of only six of those “long-term shareholders” required to make major changes, including amending rules and regulations, agreeing contracts, removal of the chief executive, and a wide-ranging veto including on club ownership
•   Premier League to go to 18 clubs from 20
•   £100 million one-off gift to the FA to cover its coronavirus losses, the non-league game, the women’s game, the grassroots
•   8.5 per cent of annual net Premier League revenue to go on operating costs and “good causes” including the FA
•   From the remainder, 25 per cent of all combined Premier League and Football League revenues to go to the EFL clubs
•   Six per cent of Premier League gross revenues to pay for stadium improvements across the top four divisions, calculated at £100 per seat
•   New rules for the distribution of Premier League television income, overseas and domestic, including proposals that base one portion on performance over three years in the league
•   The abolition of the League Cup and the Community Shield
•   24 clubs each in the Championship, League One and League Two reducing the professional game overall from 92 clubs to 90
•   A women's professional league independent of the Premier League or the FA
•   Two sides automatically relegated from the Premier League every season and the top two Championship teams promoted. The 16th place Premier League club in a play-off tournament with the Championship’s third, fourth and fifth placed teams.
•   Financial fair play regulations in line with Uefa, and full access for Premier League executive to club accounts
•   A fan charter including capping of away tickets at £20, away travel subsidised, a focus on a return to safe standing, a minimum away allocation of eight per cent capacity
•   Later Premier League start in August to give greater scope for pre-season friendlies, and requirement for all clubs to compete once every five years in a summer Premier League tournament
•   Huge changes to loan system allowing clubs to have 15 players out on loan domestically at any one time and up to four at a single club in England

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General Football & Sports / Favourite National Team Strip
« on: October 07, 2020, 10:09:58 PM »
Since 1966, I have loathed Argentina’s National Football team, albeit they have had some great teams and players.

But, I have to admit, I love their strip, especially there shirt for some reason

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Optimist or Pessimist
« on: October 07, 2020, 09:15:37 PM »
Me, I love the Albion and will always want them to be successful and will remain positive about my attachment to the club whatever.

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General Football & Sports / Who are and What defines A Top Side
« on: September 18, 2020, 02:09:54 PM »
As I, unintentionally, hi-jacked the Pre Match Chat thread with "define a top team" and the number of responses that were posted, I thought it might be appropriate if I were to make amends for going off the original topic and start this thread.

So, if the Mods think it's worthwhile to move posts from that thread to this to tidy things up or just to delete this thread, I'm comfortable with either.

So, based on my own opinion, forgetting some, but not all of past records etc. I think this season the "Top Teams" will be, in alphabetical order, Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United

Many things define a top team, for me the crucial aspects are financial backing, manager, quality of the squad, and  fan base, hence my selection

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Conor Gallagher (on loan from Chelsea)
« on: September 09, 2020, 05:26:03 PM »
Joseph Masi Twitter Account

Albion are very much in the race to sign Chelsea's Conor Gallagher on loan. https://expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2020/09/09/albion-hot-on-the-heels-of-gallagher-loan/

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West Bromwich Albion FC / All Things Albion
« on: September 07, 2020, 06:09:04 PM »
West Bromwich Albion Twitter Account

We celebrated 120 Years At The Hawthorns last week.

We want to hear all of your favourite stories from our famous old ground. They will be featured in Albion News throughout the 2020/21 campaign

ps MOD's couldn't find an appropriate thread, so I created this. Move the post to an appropriate location (no not the waste bin, please) and delete the thread as you see fit.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / David Button
« on: September 05, 2020, 10:12:29 AM »
We've signed experienced goalkeeper David Button on a two-year contract from Brighton

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Mark Jenkins
« on: July 07, 2020, 10:53:27 AM »
"Slaven Bilic hails West Brom chief executive Mark Jenkins"

I have to say, I don't think he has done too badly during his tenure as CEO, he's made decisions that are unpopular with fans's, but that comes with the territory. And he made a decision not to be paid during lockdown, which has helped keep other employees in a job.

Source: https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2020/07/07/slaven-bilic-hails-west-brom-chief-executive-mark-jenkins/

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General Football & Sports / Financial Fair Play Regulations
« on: June 22, 2020, 05:12:34 PM »
Swiss Ramble Twitter Account

"Last week UEFA announced a series of emergency changes to their Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations to “neutralise the adverse impact of the COVID-19 pandemic by allowing clubs to adjust the break-even calculation for revenue shortfalls reported in 2020 and 2021.”"

Personally, I wont even try to suggest that I've read, understood or grasped any of what is in the length tweet from an account that Standaman first bought to our attention, well mine anyway, as I was hoping Stan or others with accounting or other knowledge of FFP could enlighten me / us laymen, persons  ;)

Source: https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1274957273664761856

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General Football & Sports / Fan Ownership
« on: February 05, 2020, 06:09:05 PM »
I was thinking about our owner Lai Guochuan and his predecessor the inimitable, the one, the only, (did you like the build up?) JRP, both have come in for a more than their fair share of criticism over the years, some justifiable, some not so (all based on a fans perception and expectations, I suspect) and was wondering, would we, as a club, been better off with fans owning the club (how that would have been achieved I don't really know)?

Perhaps those with knowledge of such issues would give us laymen (laywomen, pc as ever) a more educated point of view.

Thank you in advance, I am really interested in your take and opinions

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Lee Peltier Sign Official
« on: January 31, 2020, 05:18:20 PM »
Joseph Masi Twitter Account

"Breaking: I understand Albion are closing in on a move for Cardiff full-back Lee Peltier. Club want battle-hardened and experienced Championship players as back-up to help them over the line."

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