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Next Match Forum - 30/10 Fulham (A) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: Yesterday at 10:21:03 AM »
Fair play Kev, if the Albion give them a game I am confident we can get something out of this, so I hope they do just for you!

Didn't think I would be saying that after our previous three appearances, but on Saturday they proved that they can do it. I accept the opposition were not that good but we were always comfortable, so lets hope we can carry the momentum on.

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Next Match Forum - 30/10 Fulham (A) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: Yesterday at 08:53:21 AM »
This lot are not unbeatable, they have lost 3 times already. The way some are talking they are already promoted. Mitrovic is only one player and hopefully VI will set up to deal with him. Important that we control the midfield and give them plenty to think about up front. If Saturdays team turn up then we stand a good chance.

Having said that, I would take a draw now. :D

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Next Match Forum - 30/10 Fulham (A) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: October 25, 2021, 12:32:49 PM »
Let's face facts, Fulham could beat any formation or personnel that we could put out, especially at home, so expectations need to be realistic. Same in reverse though, any 11 we put out is capable of beating them.
That being said, if Val decides to bring back Livermore and Mowatt, at the expense of Molumby and Snodgrass, he is just giving ammunition to his doubters. I think most would accept one or the other but not both, not after Swansea.

I agree with Atomic that calls for 352, as sensible as they may be, are futile, so, assuming 343, I'd go along with his 11:
                    Johnstone

        Ajayi     Bartley    Clarke

Furlong   Molumby  Mowatt    Townsend

        Phillips   Hugill     Grant

If Mowatt not fit then stick with Snodgrass.

For me Hugill is the correct choice over Robinson as we need to give their defence something to think about. From Saturday alone you can see that he can hold the ball up to allow others into play, and he is quite physical. His confidence will be up too so I would like to see him get the nod.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jordan Hugill joins on loan
« on: October 25, 2021, 12:25:08 PM »
He was on pay per play wasn't he?  (if not he should have been!)

My memory tells me that there was a £4m loan fee involved, I may be wrong but that has always stuck in my mind. Happy to be corrected though.

Thread is going a bit off topic here so in respect of Jordan, I would not expect to see him in the top 10 list.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jordan Hugill joins on loan
« on: October 25, 2021, 11:19:35 AM »
Grant is a good finisher that's why he cost the club £15 Million Hugill  main attribute is hard work yes he missed a few on Saturday but we have had far worse players on loan too many to mention.
Does anyone care to draw up a list of our worst loan signings over the last 10yrs?

Sturridge has to be at the top when you consider cost v input.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Bristol fan ill in Smethwick
« on: October 24, 2021, 12:13:31 PM »
Now I definitely heard that. In fairness it's a fairly generic chant. I wouldn't suggest it was insensitive in the circumstances so much as defiance in the face of seeing their team comprehensively played off the pitch at times.

They sang that for sure, I heard that in the East Stand. Also a song about wanting their money back which made me laugh.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Bristol fan ill in Smethwick
« on: October 24, 2021, 09:35:25 AM »
Two emergencies at the game yesterday. One in the week for Bristol City and last week at Newcastle. Strange right?

It was strange 93, I said to my friend we possibly see it once a season, so two in one game and the Bristol player was wierd. Hopefully all are ok

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jordan Hugill joins on loan
« on: October 24, 2021, 08:55:47 AM »
They play a different role, as a target man, I thought Hugill had a really good game.

I thought he did really well too. Poor bloke cannot win really, scores one, has a great game but gets flack as he should have scored three. If he had done that he wouldn't be playing for us.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Bristol fan ill in Smethwick
« on: October 24, 2021, 08:14:57 AM »
You should be ashamed of yourself if you sang that.

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Last Match Forum - 23/10 Bristol City (H) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 24, 2021, 07:29:37 AM »
Take Livermore out of the middle and it allows us to play more football.

Yesterdays performance was much better due to the fact that they kept the ball on the ground and passed it, unlike the majority of other games this season where it has been a hopeful lump up front from the back. Absolutely nothing to do with Livermore not playing.

I cannot believe that this was virtually the same team who went to Swansea. Hugill got through a lot of work and was a real problem for them, I was impressed with Snodgrass as he kept talking to the team all the time, and it was good to see that Furlong turned up instead of his none football playing brother.

Now I can watch that all day, but one swallow and all that............

It would be good to have a MOM poll, I am divided between Hugill, [past it ;D]Snodgrass and Molumby.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: October 23, 2021, 11:13:49 AM »
Apparently they are all working together on a January transfer plan which is great to hear but what Lai will actually sanction is another thing.

Did they mention the 'competitive budget?'  ;D

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Last Match Forum - 23/10 Bristol City (H) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: October 22, 2021, 11:10:27 AM »
Ignore him and read mine  :P

I'm going for 4+ goals I might even open up a betting account.

A bit early for the Bathams

I think Liam will be closer to the mark but good luck with the bet ;D

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Last Match Forum - 23/10 Bristol City (H) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: October 22, 2021, 10:10:52 AM »
Cant see Bristol City winning.

They’re going to come here and make this an ugly game of football and we’ll happily join them.

This will be a boring 0-0 or we’ll scrape a win from a set piece.

See Derby, Millwall, Blues, Preston, Stoke, Peterborough, QPR type performance..

Thanks for the build up Liam, really looking forward to it now...not.

Having said that you are probably right.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: October 22, 2021, 12:14:33 AM »
What’s Ted Lasso up to these days?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: October 22, 2021, 12:11:10 AM »
He probably paid 75% more than it was worth. I’m sure I’m not the only one who thought we were stupidly over valued.

He was mugged off big time and unfortunately it will be our millstone for years to come

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Last Match Forum - 20/10 Swansea City (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 22, 2021, 12:09:42 AM »
At half time I switched over to the Man U game for 10 minutes, wonderful football the way it should be played.


Players on  £200k per week at the top of the skill tree , no wonder  . Not criticising the comment but just different level to where we are. I remember when we used to give Man U a game. From Lukaku to Hugill how we have fallen.

That was my comment Adam and you are right. Not so long ago we beat them at their place and look where we are now. It really is a disgrace as to how this beautiful club has been mismanaged.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: October 21, 2021, 01:15:21 PM »
Today's football is all about money nothing else. Why are Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea and Man Utd always at the top of the table because they spend money. I wouldn't say those  4 managers are the best in the league.

We can't compete with those big hitters but we should be the championship equivalent of those teams. We have just been relegated from the premiership, we just sold our best player for £17 million, we have just got rid of nearly 15 players off the payroll. Financially we are probably better off than most teams in the division but when we go into the transfer market we are acting like something from Oliver Twist, surviving on the scraps nobody else wants like Hugill and Reach.

If we are pleading that we have no money perhaps we should be asking where has it gone !!!  We were in the premiership for 9 years without really spending loads of money.

Perhaps Ismael plays those tactics because the players aren't capable of anything else. Oh and by the way I didn't hear many people complaining about his tactics after about 4 or 5 games.

There has been much speculation in the past about this. My basic take on it is that Williams and Pulis spent it like they were lottery winners, Jenkins came in, identified the issue and shored up the finances, then left. I am not going to drill down to the exact figures but I imagine that the majority goes on club wages, and what's left [if there is any] either buys the tea club biscuits, or it may go 'elsewhere'  ;)

'The money was just resting in my account'

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jordan Hugill joins on loan
« on: October 21, 2021, 12:35:10 PM »
Haha, you and me both. With the benefit of hindsight, and the horrors of watching Hugill and Zohore, we probably should have offered HRK another year. OMG, did I actually write that???????

You need help Timdon..... ;)

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: October 21, 2021, 10:44:42 AM »
Baggiesmart - you say 'here we go again, blaming the manager', but who else is responsible for team selection, tactics and substitutions? Its fine blaming the club for not spending, but we have no money apparently and WBA do not do borrowing.

With Pulis you knew what the plan was, with Allardyce you knew what the plan was. I don't know about you but I have no real idea what VI's plan is other than swarm the opposition in their own half and hoof the ball up from the back. Given that option A of the club spending loads of money is off the table, what's your solution to this shambolic fare we are witnessing on a regular basis?

Oh, and I would not want to meet Snodgrass down a dark alley and tell him he is 'past it'....

The last few performances sit firmly with VI, no one else.

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Last Match Forum - 20/10 Swansea City (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 21, 2021, 09:58:27 AM »
We were in control until we went down to 10 men (When Hugill came on !).



Not even sure we were ever in control to be honest. We stunned them with an early goal but they regrouped and got to half time. Whatever control we had was gone long before Hugill came on.

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Livermore, or any Swansea player........

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Last Match Forum - 20/10 Swansea City (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 21, 2021, 07:59:35 AM »
I feel sorry for the fans who travelled to watch that epic fail of a game. At half time I switched over to the Man U game for 10 minutes, wonderful football the way it should be played.

I have said on a couple of occasions that this style of play will not transpose to the Premier league when we go up. Seems that I don't need to worry about that anymore.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Valérien Ismaël - Head Coach
« on: October 21, 2021, 07:54:40 AM »
VI was never our main target, but in the end he was given the role, I guess because he did a good job with a very limited budget at Barnsley. This is NOT a good reason to offer a man a job. Did anyone in the board room take into account the type of player he had, and what type of player we have? Too many managers only have a Plan A, and VI is one of them. If you don't adapt you will get stiffled, as we have seen in recent games. And his comment about not needing quality but rather the 'right type' of player is odd to say the least. This is akin to buying an F1 team and putting me behind the wheel. Yes I can drive, but not at that level. I fear this will end badly, some time early in the new year if VI doesn't change. My grandson (18 months) has just learnt that square pegs don't go into round holes - Lets hope VI does very soon.

So who was our main target?

On your second point this happened when we appointed Allardyce as well which just goes to show how little our esteemed leader and board know about football.


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Last Match Forum - 20/10 Swansea City (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 21, 2021, 07:11:43 AM »
You watch us towel up Bristol City 3-0 on the weekend and this woeful performance get swept under the carpet.

I'd leave off the Fosters if I were you Aussie, that ain't going to happen.

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Last Match Forum - 20/10 Swansea City (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 21, 2021, 07:10:01 AM »
4 at the back, less of a high line?
Play through the middle instead of lumping it forward,
Bring on subs based on the way the game is going
Try 2 up top
React to the opposition
Press their defenders

All possibilities but, i'd start simple by actually passing the ball in training.

Sky put some stats up last night that corroborate this. In goals from set Pieces and time spent in the opposition area etc we were 1st in the league, when it came to pass accuracy and passes completed we were 22nd/23rd in the league, and that tells you everything you need to know about his tactics. Playground football. 

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