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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: September 12, 2021, 08:41:47 PM »
There are already broken bottles lying on the ground on our side, but who knows who threw first.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: September 12, 2021, 07:48:23 PM »
Wasn't there, and something may well have happened before, but it seems to start with Albion fans (over) reacting to abuse from a few Millwall fans.

4.55 minutes in at

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: TV Games
« on: August 09, 2021, 03:28:58 PM »
36 Championship Saturday 3pm games are selected for international broadcast. Those selected will be shown by broadcasters in various countries as follows:

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: TV Games
« on: August 09, 2021, 10:53:59 AM »
For overseas Baggies, Preston game selected for international broadcast.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: July 22, 2021, 05:42:16 PM »
Thanks, but it doesn't really appear to cover how Peace (other than in collaboration with Kappa) funded his various purchases.

He received a £1m + a year as Chairman. £1.95 million in his last year.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: July 22, 2021, 04:12:21 PM »
Thanks for that link, but my observation was with regard to when Peace took control of the club from Paul Thompson.

That period is covered at

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: July 22, 2021, 03:18:36 PM »
Lai shouldn't have taken the loan on, he should have insisted that Peace pay it back as part of the deal. It's not like Peace wasn't getting a king's ransom after all.

It's not just Lai who should have insisted on repayment. Likewise the board of Club should have sought the repayment of the loan before the sale of Holdings to Lai. At the time of the sale, Holdings had already defaulted on the first instalment of the repayment of the loan to Club .

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: July 22, 2021, 11:52:34 AM »
My memory might be failing me after so long, but didn't Peace use the club's money to take control of it in the first place?

There were claims he might have used club money in 2010.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: July 22, 2021, 09:27:26 AM »
I don't think it has ever been suggested it was a surprise to Lai. It was a surprise to everyone else when it was discovered .

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: July 21, 2021, 10:19:26 PM »

So why did WBA Holdings borrow the money from WBAFC?

To allegedly enable Peace to use £3.7m of the club's money to buy the shares rather than £3.7m of his own money.

This is the allegation which Peace denies, but offers no alternative explanation to what he did with the £3.7m.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Fixtures 21/22
« on: June 23, 2021, 04:55:32 PM »
If only there was less interfering by Sky in the Championship. Sadly the opposite applies, the coverage is relentless.

Anyone know when the loan for Yokuslu expires / expired? Permanent players are contracted until 30 June, but don't know if the same applies for loan signings.

Just wondering if he is still our player for the first few games of the tournament. The EUFA site has him as an Albion player.

This website says loan ends on 30 June

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Albion at Wembley
« on: May 23, 2021, 12:35:36 PM »
Before the Charity Shield game between Leeds and Liverpool in August 92, a veterans team of Albion/Walsall beat a team from Forest/County 1-0 in the Umbro/Tennents Veterans Final with the winner from Garry Pendrey.

The ex-Albion players in the team were Campbell Crawford, Bobby Hope, Brendon Batson, Tony Grealish, Joe Mayo, Garry Pendrey and Ally Robertson. John Wile, Dave Butler and John Trewick came on as subs.

I went to the game as I had never previously seen Albion play at Wembley. There were a few other Albion fans there too, but it was played on the same day as a friendly v Blackburn at the Hawthorns. Little did I know I'd be back 10 months later for the Port Vale game.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: 2021/22 Kit
« on: May 17, 2021, 07:11:43 PM »
So, blue socks again. Prefer white socks. Blue socks always seem to be **** seasons.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: May 17, 2021, 07:00:41 PM »
The bottom team in the PL enter the Carabao Cup first round, an unwanted extra fixture in a season which will be full of midweek games. We really want Sheffield United to have that privilege.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 25, 2021, 11:40:42 PM »
Diagne made no attempt to close down McGinn before he crossed the ball for their equaliser, just stood off watching him until it was way too late when he finally made a half hearted attempt to get to him.

General Football & Sports / Re: FA Cup
« on: March 21, 2021, 07:06:52 PM »
Albion's game at Leicester on 17 April will need to be rearranged as Leicester are in FA Cup semi final.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: RIP Mickey Lewis
« on: March 07, 2021, 10:02:03 AM »
Saw his debut at Palace aged 16 in December 1981. RIP Mickey.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Mbaye Diagne
« on: February 20, 2021, 10:57:54 PM »
Not seen it mentioned elsewhere but commentators on Burnley YouTube highlights say that linesman flagged for offside after Diagne hit bar, so it wouldn't have counted.

General Football & Sports / Re: FA Cup
« on: February 11, 2021, 08:19:08 PM »
Albion v Everton on March 20 will have to be rearranged because Everton will be playing Man City in FA Cup that weekend.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: January 16, 2021, 11:11:13 AM »
The stand out sentence for me from the From Buzaglo to Balis book, is the quote from John Wile looking back to the time Peace became Chairman in June 2002: "But Jeremy could see the treasures that lay ahead."

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: January 14, 2021, 06:25:44 PM »

Just trawled through the accounts on companies house website, back to accounts for year to June 2016, before the sale.

In the accounts to June 2016, (season 2015/16) there are entries where the club has borrowed from & owed money to the parent company, both more than £3.7 million.

I believe it's likely that Peace used some of the value of his personal shares as a surety against loans to increase his shareholding, but that £3.7 million doesn't appear specifically until the accounts for season 2016/17.

I believe it's more likely be a loan to pay the team of accountants, lawyers & translators from both sides who brokered the deal.

You need to look further back to the accounts for the period when JP made his tender offer for shares in Summer 2014.

The loan of £3.7m was discovered in the filed accounts of WBA Holdings (Peace's company) for the year to 30 June 2015. Holdings is shown as owing £3,716,000 to "group undertakings" (i.e. Club).

Albion Matchday Forum / Commentary
« on: January 07, 2021, 04:39:03 PM »
Commentary on 5 Live Sports Extra

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: December 25, 2020, 02:56:41 PM »
49 years ago to the day. It was the most unlikeliest of victories back then. We need lightning to strike twice.

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