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« Reply #325 on: August 08, 2019, 07:50:50 PM »
Izzy Brown who opted for Chelsea’s big bucks and a London lifestyle instead of developing his talent at the club that gave him his big opportunity has now gone on loan to Luton. I can’t help thinking that his career would have moved forward much quicker if he had remained at The Hawthorns

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« Reply #326 on: August 08, 2019, 07:55:02 PM »
Izzy Brown who opted for Chelsea’s big bucks and a London lifestyle instead of developing his talent at the club that gave him his big opportunity has now gone on loan to Luton. I can’t help thinking that his career would have moved forward much quicker if he had remained at The Hawthorns

Luton are in the same league as us this season mate

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« Reply #327 on: August 09, 2019, 11:31:17 AM »
Luton are in the same league as us this season mate

Same division, will NEVER be in our league  :D ;D
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« Reply #328 on: August 09, 2019, 11:51:39 AM »
Izzy Brown who opted for Chelsea’s big bucks and a London lifestyle instead of developing his talent at the club that gave him his big opportunity has now gone on loan to Luton. I can’t help thinking that his career would have moved forward much quicker if he had remained at The Hawthorns

Given he was developing nicely while on loan abroad I think his biggest problem has been injuries as opposed to his London life style. He could have picked those injuries up here just as likely as there but I know which move provided more for he and his family. I'd have loved him to stay or even come back on loan but the protracted nature of his departure, subsequent low fee and acrimony between our board of the time and Chelsea's put an end to that.
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« Reply #329 on: August 13, 2019, 02:19:53 PM »
I've just been having a read of some of the going on's at Bury - staggering.

Their recent takeover went through without the approval of the EFL.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/11/bury-takeover-without-full-football-league-approval-transfer-embargo-efl

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/23/bury-players-12-weeks-without-pay-owner-steve-dale

It seems that the previous owner Stewart Day took a variety of loans with high monthly interests rates and secured them against Gigg Lane. He's now flung the club into the hands of an unknown associate who seemingly specialises in insolvent companies and liquidation.

Most of Day's property business have all entered administration. HMRC are owed around £1million.
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« Reply #330 on: August 13, 2019, 02:31:29 PM »
I've just been having a read of some of the going on's at Bury - staggering.

Their recent takeover went through without the approval of the EFL.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/11/bury-takeover-without-full-football-league-approval-transfer-embargo-efl

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/23/bury-players-12-weeks-without-pay-owner-steve-dale

It seems that the previous owner Stewart Day took a variety of loans with high monthly interests rates and secured them against Gigg Lane. He's now flung the club into the hands of an unknown associate who seemingly specialises in insolvent companies and liquidation.

Most of Day's property business have all entered administration. HMRC are owed around £1million.

An absolute nightmare for Bury fans... but for the grace of god etc

Given all of the money in ther game in the top league I think that the great footballing minds should get together and help clubs like Bury and Bolton etc to save them from going out of business. Not necessarily give them money, but to loan them the funds to save them and to have an administration in place to ensure that they do not go out of business. After all, these are the feeder clubs that some of our better players come through.

and here we are discussing our goalkeeper and centre back..........puts it all in perspective to me.
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« Reply #331 on: August 13, 2019, 06:47:58 PM »
An absolute nightmare for Bury fans... but for the grace of god etc

Given all of the money in ther game in the top league I think that the great footballing minds should get together and help clubs like Bury and Bolton etc to save them from going out of business. Not necessarily give them money, but to loan them the funds to save them and to have an administration in place to ensure that they do not go out of business. After all, these are the feeder clubs that some of our better players come through.

and here we are discussing our goalkeeper and centre back..........puts it all in perspective to me.
It's a fair point you make but there is another argument that says, there are clubs surviving on a very tight budget who also wouldn't mind a bit of a handout as security. Would it make clubs lazier if they knew there was bail out available if they went bust ?
Newport is the situation I know best. As most will know, they went bust were reformed as a new club by supporters, forced to play outside Wales and have progressed through the pyramid to the league 2 play off final last season and cup games against Man City, Spurs and Leicester in the last 2 seasons. It's an ongoing situation which could tail off again but they know the dangers of over ambition through experience.

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« Reply #332 on: August 13, 2019, 07:03:10 PM »
In addition to the above comments on Newport there's a documentary about them on bbc iplayer 'giantkillers the team that wouldn't die' incidently my wife saw her late father in some of the footage also, there's a rather interesting programme about Fort William FC in the Highland league called 'The Fort' they have hadn't won a game in over 600 days iirc on the same platform
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« Reply #333 on: August 14, 2019, 01:40:58 PM »
The Premier League should not be used a bail out for league clubs whom have not conducted their finances appropriately.

If anything, you are purely going to encourage other clubs to speculate to accumulate or run football clubs disastrously, knowing there is a pool of money to assist them should it go tits up.

Premier League clubs, however, should remove the loan fee to those in the football league. It should be focused towards player development and not fleecing lower league clubs out of funds.

Moreso, it also needs the football league to take a good look at themselves really. There is no way that they should allow their member clubs to be run so disastrously. What the heck are they doing?
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« Reply #334 on: August 14, 2019, 02:06:35 PM »
It's a fair point you make but there is another argument that says, there are clubs surviving on a very tight budget who also wouldn't mind a bit of a handout as security. Would it make clubs lazier if they knew there was bail out available if they went bust ?
Newport is the situation I know best. As most will know, they went bust were reformed as a new club by supporters, forced to play outside Wales and have progressed through the pyramid to the league 2 play off final last season and cup games against Man City, Spurs and Leicester in the last 2 seasons. It's an ongoing situation which could tail off again but they know the dangers of over ambition through experience.

To clarify, I was not proposing handouts, but loans to keep the clubs solvent under they can be sorted out financially. I would not see it as a 'speculate to accumulate' scenario and any loan if possible would be secured against the ground etc.
Unscrupulous owners are starting to become the scourge of the earth and it is likely that more clubs will eventually go to the wall like Bury.........
Personally I think the big boys are in a position to help, but I appear to be on my own.
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« Reply #335 on: Today at 09:30:13 AM »
I've just been having a read of some of the going on's at Bury - staggering.

Their recent takeover went through without the approval of the EFL.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/11/bury-takeover-without-full-football-league-approval-transfer-embargo-efl

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/23/bury-players-12-weeks-without-pay-owner-steve-dale

It seems that the previous owner Stewart Day took a variety of loans with high monthly interests rates and secured them against Gigg Lane. He's now flung the club into the hands of an unknown associate who seemingly specialises in insolvent companies and liquidation.

Most of Day's property business have all entered administration. HMRC are owed around £1million.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/bury-on-the-brink-a-day-in-the-life-of-a-dying-club/ar-AAGdnwO?ocid=spartandhp