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Offline Dan87uk

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Re: OFFICIAL LEAGUE 1 and LEAGUE 2 THREAD
« Reply #350 on: August 27, 2019, 06:00:06 PM »
still no confirmation as of yet from EFL or the two clubs, but it's not looking good for either Bolton or Bury this evening with both staring down the barrel.

Jim White's coverage on sky sports news for this has been a disgrace as well today. Standing in front of a massive timer with the two club logo's on it as if it were transfer deadling day - utter ****
« Last Edit: August 27, 2019, 06:24:03 PM by Dan87uk »
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Re: OFFICIAL LEAGUE 1 and LEAGUE 2 THREAD
« Reply #351 on: August 27, 2019, 06:22:23 PM »
still no confirmation as of yet from EFL or the two clubs, but it's not looking good for either bolton or Bury this evening with both staring down the barrel.

Jim White's coverage on sky sports news for this has been a disgrace as well today. Standing in front of a massive timer with the two club logo's on it as if it were transfer deadling day - utter ****


Yes Dan87uk. Morally wrong Sky have lots of money could have saved both teams. But to be fair they are under no obligation to save either.

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« Reply #352 on: August 27, 2019, 06:32:39 PM »
I am aware that there cannot be direct ownership, but I am sure that a way can be found where Bury can be 'assisted' by a bigger club

In fairness, you did say you thought a club like united could come and take ownership, which suggested you weren’t aware.

In general I don’t think any of the broadcasters or any specific clubs should help. It’s not their responsibility. City have given bury a training ground and they only needed to keep it tidy and they couldn’t manage that.

Feel for the fans, but I’m sure United and City will help the next generation of fan in the area by targeting the catchment area further for their own support.
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Re: OFFICIAL LEAGUE 1 and LEAGUE 2 THREAD
« Reply #353 on: August 27, 2019, 07:12:15 PM »
still no confirmation as of yet from EFL or the two clubs, but it's not looking good for either Bolton or Bury this evening with both staring down the barrel.

Jim White's coverage on sky sports news for this has been a disgrace as well today. Standing in front of a massive timer with the two club logo's on it as if it were transfer deadling day - utter ****

I am afraid Jim White is a ‘lick spittler’  Any one noticed how often he pushes West Ham on his show on Talk Sport , as long as he gets his free afternoon in a corporate box he is anybody’s .

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Re: OFFICIAL LEAGUE 1 and LEAGUE 2 THREAD
« Reply #354 on: August 27, 2019, 07:26:05 PM »
I do feel sorry for the fans a little bit but I think this is needed to hit home the reality that if you spend more than you bring in then this is the risk you run.

In my opinion FFP doesn't go far enough. There shouldn't just be a profitability test alone and would be much for effective with a second cash flow test. There are plenty of profitable businesses who go into liquidation due to cash flow problems.

FFP should be far stricter in my opinion in the amount it allows owners to fund businesses which should be linked to a small multiple of prior three years cash revenues.
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« Reply #355 on: August 27, 2019, 07:33:03 PM »
I would be interested to know who actually owns the ground/freehold of the ground. Should the worst come to the worst then these 2 p!it's of land will be worth a small fortune as building land !!
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Re: OFFICIAL LEAGUE 1 and LEAGUE 2 THREAD
« Reply #356 on: August 27, 2019, 08:02:13 PM »
Gutted for the fans of both clubs. I can’t imagine how it would feel if it was us.

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Re: OFFICIAL LEAGUE 1 and LEAGUE 2 THREAD
« Reply #357 on: August 27, 2019, 08:32:13 PM »
This gives a bit of background on Bury

http://backpagefootball.com/a-timeline-of-events-at-bury-fc/121639/

I am not sure that anyone has run the club well in 20 years but the current ownership seem to be the bottom of the barrel. It seems that either owners are well intended but without a sustainable model they get tired of the losses or they are complete charlatans like Day or Dale. 

Update Bury have been expelled from the league following the collapse of the takeover. The plain truth is sadly this could not go on forever.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2019, 11:18:00 PM by Standaman »
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« Reply #358 on: August 27, 2019, 11:44:47 PM »
A sad sad day for football. How many clubs does it take to go under to realise how messed up the game truly is. My heart goes out to bury fans tonight. There’s every chance Bolton may survive but that will drag on a little longer until we officially know.
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« Reply #359 on: August 27, 2019, 11:46:17 PM »
Gutted for the fans of both clubs. I can’t imagine how it would feel if it was us.
Bit of warning for lots of football clubs. And also to those fans, and maybe we are all sometimes guilty, who talk as if the club has unlimited funds at its disposal.
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Re: OFFICIAL LEAGUE 1 and LEAGUE 2 THREAD
« Reply #360 on: August 28, 2019, 08:31:56 AM »
I am gutted as Gigg Lane was one of my most memorable nights as a baggie (for all the wrong reasons)
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« Reply #361 on: August 28, 2019, 11:08:15 AM »
The ones who suffer are the fans.
btw. How many games did they play?

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« Reply #362 on: August 28, 2019, 11:34:10 AM »
Perhaps its time for there to be a North and South lower leagues like there used to be. Cutting costs for these clubs.

Id also reintroduce 50/50 attendance splits home and away to ensure that there is a weekly cashflow for the clubs in those leagues.

I think this isnt the last time we will see this happening though, im willing to bet there are quite a few clubs very close to the edge right now.

Its why im glad we havent pushed the boat out as much financially for players like Dwight Gayle.....promotion back to the Prem does give you huge financial incentives but at the same time your operating costs go up.

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« Reply #363 on: August 28, 2019, 12:44:19 PM »
I am gutted as Gigg Lane was one of my most memorable nights as a baggie (for all the wrong reasons)
Losing 1-0 In the fog ?
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« Reply #364 on: August 28, 2019, 12:53:48 PM »
Losing 1-0 In the fog ?

I was there too. An unusually poor performance from us (from what I could see) followed by a death defying journey back down the M6, Happy Days!

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« Reply #365 on: August 28, 2019, 12:54:49 PM »
Losing 1-0 In the fog ?
Freezing fog. The coldest I’ve ever been at a game.
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« Reply #366 on: August 28, 2019, 02:18:24 PM »
Losing 1-0 In the fog ?

Yup, thats the one, a long time ago !
I won't bore you with the tale but suffice to say its etched on my memory
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« Reply #367 on: August 28, 2019, 07:21:27 PM »
Bolton saved!