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Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« Reply #1025 on: February 07, 2019, 12:51:45 PM »
Nice to see Rogers come on but was there any gain - as in it makes it more difficult / expensive for another club to pinch him now that he's played for the senior team ?

If I remember right, I think if he was to get poached, his value would increase now he has played for the first team as opposed to if he was still playing academy football, as he's seen as being part of the senior set up.

Could be wrong though.
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Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« Reply #1026 on: February 07, 2019, 02:49:58 PM »
If I remember right, I think if he was to get poached, his value would increase now he has played for the first team as opposed to if he was still playing academy football, as he's seen as being part of the senior set up.

Could be wrong though.
Yes i think that's right, there was some benefit in just getting him on the pitch. Although he's obviously a prospect I'm not sure he would have been pushed ahead of Edwards and Leko at this stage otherwise.

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« Reply #1027 on: February 07, 2019, 04:10:19 PM »
We do look as though we have a very talented group of players but the problem is we probably wont see Leko, Edwards, Tulloch or Rogers involved in a competitive game now for another six months when the first round of the carabao cups start, so the momentum of the last 10 days will of gone.

The likes of Edwards and Leko very rarely got near the first team for league games the first five months of the season, i cannot see that changing now we have signed another three players.

I believe they were both carrying knocks last night but they should of been loaned out and probably Tulloch too (Rogers at 16 is a bit too young), keeping them here for cup fixtures is pointless when we are now out by early February.

The only way these lads will have chance to fulfill their potential is by playing reguarly which they wont do with us, i think Sam Field has suffered massively due to not going out and playing on loan, i am desperate for him to do well, he seems a nice lad, Albion fan, but he is 21 in May and is no closer to being a regular than he was when he broke on the scene three years ago,  Leko the same.

Our whole loan system has to be reviewed because training every day and playing for the under 23's a couple of times a month is not fair to these lads careers whether it be with Albion or elsewhere.

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Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« Reply #1028 on: February 07, 2019, 05:02:09 PM »
We do look as though we have a very talented group of players but the problem is we probably wont see Leko, Edwards, Tulloch or Rogers involved in a competitive game now for another six months when the first round of the carabao cups start, so the momentum of the last 10 days will of gone.

The likes of Edwards and Leko very rarely got near the first team for league games the first five months of the season, i cannot see that changing now we have signed another three players.

I believe they were both carrying knocks last night but they should of been loaned out and probably Tulloch too (Rogers at 16 is a bit too young), keeping them here for cup fixtures is pointless when we are now out by early February.

The only way these lads will have chance to fulfill their potential is by playing reguarly which they wont do with us, i think Sam Field has suffered massively due to not going out and playing on loan, i am desperate for him to do well, he seems a nice lad, Albion fan, but he is 21 in May and is no closer to being a regular than he was when he broke on the scene three years ago,  Leko the same.

Our whole loan system has to be reviewed because training every day and playing for the under 23's a couple of times a month is not fair to these lads careers whether it be with Albion or elsewhere.
Mostly fair points. I do though think Sam Field after the last 3 weeks is closer to being a regular than he's ever been. He could have been left out on Saturday but Moore seems to be applying the 'the shirt is yours to lose' principle to him and Harper which is good to see (whether they play Saturday after last night's exertions is another matter). Also Edwards - it sounded like there was a loan to Coventry setup but given Barnes and Sako had gone and Phillips injured, we couldn't really let him go until the 3 deadline day signings were finally done which was very late in the day - too late to get Edwards out it seems.

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Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« Reply #1029 on: February 07, 2019, 05:15:43 PM »
I don't like to get carried away with young players and some of the hype that goes on but do follow the under 23's online and the odd game I see .
Tonight against Brighton was a huge step up from the Under 23's and these lads have really shown something , there's some serious potential there in 3 or 4 of them .
I know ( and agree in some respects ) many are annoyed with DM for using both Cups as a testing ground for the youngsters but overall our main aim doesn't involve those competitions .
Not saying I'd want this every season but it's done a lot of good this year.

I agree entirely, I think it has also benefitted Field massively, so hard to give the youngsters game time when you are fighting relegation from the Premier League or fighting for promotion.

I think the recent history of our young players leaving for the top teams and their relative failure having done so will hopefully encourage them to stick with us and hopefully benefit both us and them.
George Thorne has slipped to much lower level and Izzy Brown is continually injured (like Thorne) and hardly pulling up any trees in the Championship.
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Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« Reply #1030 on: February 09, 2019, 03:51:05 PM »
Youth side have knocked Arsenal out of the FA Youth Cup on their own pitch !
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« Reply #1031 on: February 09, 2019, 03:57:39 PM »
Youth side have knocked Arsenal out of the FA Youth Cup on their own pitch !


Not sure if this justifies Wednesday but it's an achievement nonetheless.
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« Reply #1032 on: February 09, 2019, 03:59:25 PM »

Not sure if this justifies Wednesday but it's an achievement nonetheless.
Haven't seen the line up yet , better idea then .
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Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« Reply #1033 on: February 09, 2019, 04:14:38 PM »
Massive achievement!

E&S saying the quarter final is likely at the Hawthorns against Everton or Brighton.

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« Reply #1034 on: February 09, 2019, 05:13:30 PM »
Huge achievement, Arsenal were MASSIVE favourites to win the entire tournament. Their team is top to bottom England youth stars.

First time we've made the quarter final in decades, and with the team we have we have a shot of winning it. Hopefully they get a decent attendance at the Hawthorns for the quarter final.

Jamie Soule (who seems to be really stepping up this year and may well be the next player we see getting his chance in the first team) and Finn Azaz with the goals.

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« Reply #1035 on: February 09, 2019, 08:32:18 PM »
Huge achievement, Arsenal were MASSIVE favourites to win the entire tournament. Their team is top to bottom England youth stars.

First time we've made the quarter final in decades, and with the team we have we have a shot of winning it. Hopefully they get a decent attendance at the Hawthorns for the quarter final.

Jamie Soule (who seems to be really stepping up this year and may well be the next player we see getting his chance in the first team) and Finn Azaz with the goals.
What brilliant news, well done lads
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Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« Reply #1036 on: February 10, 2019, 01:57:29 PM »
This was our under 18's team that beat, favorites for the competition, Arsenal

ALBION: Griffiths, White (Gardner-Hickman 62), Martinez, Ferguson, Harmon; Brown, Solanke; Tulloch (Asomugha 82), Azaz, Rogers, Soule.

Goal Scores: Goals Jamie Soule and Finn Azaz

Substitutes: Cann, Delaney, Taylor.

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« Reply #1037 on: February 10, 2019, 07:13:06 PM »
Well done lads great achievement