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« Reply #8175 on: May 12, 2019, 11:28:41 PM »
Thanks for that info Hunnington.
My point know is that the Etihad stadium is an amazing place,but it didn't cost them massive bucks did it.
If they had to build it from scratch it would have cost say £750 mill ?

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« Reply #8176 on: May 13, 2019, 09:34:11 AM »
Brighton sack Hughton....waiting for Durhams take on this..especially after this DM rant......would Hughton be a shout for us ?
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« Reply #8177 on: May 13, 2019, 09:45:49 AM »
Brighton sack Hughton....waiting for Durhams take on this..especialky after this DM rant......would Hughton be a shout for us ?

Strange decision from Brighton... They survived the drop (albeit by only 1 place and 2 points) and reached the cup semi-final.

I'm not quite sure what more he could've done for them or what they expected from him, but I suppose only the fans of that club will know though if it was right call or not - much like with our own club when Moore went - We don't watch them week in week out.
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« Reply #8178 on: May 13, 2019, 09:57:39 AM »
I think that's very harsh on Hughton I think he's done a good job down there.
What do their owners expect ,who are they anyway?
Seems to have done pretty well wherever he's been.
Yes I'd take him for our manager/ coach.

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« Reply #8179 on: May 13, 2019, 10:08:21 AM »
Rather harsh on Hughton. Not sure what Brighton want really, probably champagne football on a Brew XI budget. Thought he had done a sterling job with the players available.

I think in the long term they may regret that, I would have him here anyday.

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« Reply #8180 on: May 13, 2019, 10:22:45 AM »
Taken them as far as he can. 2 wins since 2018, I think?

If he'd have stayed, they would be surefire relegation candidates, so they are backing themselves to find someone to build upon the groundwork Hughton laid.
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« Reply #8181 on: May 13, 2019, 10:26:44 AM »
Taken them as far as he can. 2 wins since 2018, I think?

If he'd have stayed, they would be surefire relegation candidates, so they are backing themselves to find someone to build upon the groundwork Hughton laid.

It's risky, but probably correct. So far in his career he's done nothing to suggest that barely surviving relegation isn't his skill ceiling. Gives a new person a full summer to build their own team. It is ultimately what we should have done with Pulis a couple of years back.

Of course the media will cry their eyes out about this one, the same as when Adkins was replaced by Pochettino, Phelan replaced by Marco Silva, Sherwood replaced by Pochettino (you'd think they would have learned their lesson on this one), and so on.

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« Reply #8182 on: May 13, 2019, 10:33:34 AM »
Strange decision from Brighton... They survived the drop (albeit by only 1 place and 2 points) and reached the cup semi-final.

I'm not quite sure what more he could've done for them or what they expected from him, but I suppose only the fans of that club will know though if it was right call or not - much like with our own club when Moore went - We don't watch them week in week out.

Probably goes a lot deeper; but on surface they have had a very poor second half of the season. In some of our most successful Premier League campaigns with Clarke and Pulis; we similarly tailed off albeit not near a relegation battle and this carried over into the next season; seeing both sacked before Christmas.

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« Reply #8183 on: May 13, 2019, 01:03:52 PM »
Rather harsh on Hughton. Not sure what Brighton want really, probably champagne football on a Brew XI budget. Thought he had done a sterling job with the players available.

I think in the long term they may regret that, I would have him here anyday.

Over to you Mr Durham.

To not finish 2 points above relegation, with 2 wins in 5 months.

We sacked our manager when we finished in a similar position.

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« Reply #8184 on: May 13, 2019, 01:07:36 PM »
His remit for the season was to improve them. They finished with fewer points and stayed up more by luck than judgement. He had to go.

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« Reply #8185 on: May 13, 2019, 01:25:23 PM »
To not finish 2 points above relegation, with 2 wins in 5 months.

We sacked our manager when we finished in a similar position.

Well he has guaranteed them greed league football for another year. Admittedly the 2 wins in 5 months does not look good but again I refer to the resources he has available to him compared to other teams in the league.

I am sure the three teams below them would gladly swap places. We would have accepted that finish last year.......
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« Reply #8186 on: May 13, 2019, 02:14:52 PM »
Rather harsh on Hughton. Not sure what Brighton want really, probably champagne football on a Brew XI budget. Thought he had done a sterling job with the players available.

I think in the long term they may regret that, I would have him here anyday.

Over to you Mr Durham.

Just had a quick read of the tw@tter. He's been challenged over this by an Albion supporter. He's also rather predictably deflecting questions by implying others lack the capacity to think, as opposed to coming out in Hughton's defence and going for Brighton. The shock jock politics of point, smear and attempt to humiliate. Well versed in the art of spin, a quite despicable specimen (in my very honest opinion). You watch, the tw@t will get some kind of an award for this and be labelled as a crusader in the fight against racism. Disingenuous, click bait tosser.
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« Reply #8187 on: May 16, 2019, 01:25:00 PM »
The ownership of sheffield United has took another interesting twist.

Money used from the Bin Laden family to help fund the club

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« Reply #8188 on: May 18, 2019, 07:10:14 PM »
I see that Dan Ashworth is already working his magic at Brighton by persuading Graham Potter to leave Swansea. Swansea’s owners are similar to ours - they are worth an absolute fortune collectively but won’t invest anything in the clubs that they purchased. It just doesn’t make sense.

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« Reply #8189 on: May 18, 2019, 07:15:39 PM »
I see that Dan Ashworth is already working his magic at Brighton by persuading Graham Potter to leave Swansea. Swansea’s owners are similar to ours - they are worth an absolute fortune collectively but won’t invest anything in the clubs that they purchased. It just doesn’t make sense.

Unfortunately FFP rules have created a closed shop designed to protect the big clubs.

How do wealthy owners inject cash without breaking the rules?

Derby and Sheffield Wednesday both sold their ground to their wealthy owner although that loop hole will now be closed.
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« Reply #8190 on: May 19, 2019, 09:59:07 AM »
Unfortunately FFP rules have created a closed shop designed to protect the big clubs.

How do wealthy owners inject cash without breaking the rules?

Derby and Sheffield Wednesday both sold their ground to their wealthy owner although that loop hole will now be closed.




The way the game distributes money creates a cartel. To break into the Cartel Man City were bought by Abu Dhabi's sovereign wealth fund and they spent the better part £1bn on the City Group. The simple truth there are virtually no other ownerships that could do that and even if they were they would have to be motivated by something other than normal commercial considerations because the investment has generated no returns in nearly a decade.

Many clubs went bust with benefactor owners trying to mimic the Man City model i.e bankroll the club beyond it's means to the point that it's sucess on the pitch generates revenue to be self sustaining. This model is still prelevent in the Championship because teams are just one short step away from the riches of the Premier League.

FFP was put in place to try to stop this. It failed clubs still go broke and owners still behave like gamblers desperately trying to get unstuck after a particualrly bad session at the casino.

The latest ruse of selling the ground to the ownership should not be allowed because it is selling a community assest to an entity that is not the football club. You can only do it once and when the money from the sale runs out and you are still in the Championship and renting the ground which gives them even less revenue to spend on players.

Yet none of this is FFP's fault. Or rather it is a reluctance to on the part of the authorities to tackle the real problem which is the horribly skewed way in which the game's income is distributed.
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