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Offline SmethDan

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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7900 on: February 06, 2019, 03:11:53 PM »
I don't want to detract wildly from the subject, but their net spend was £60m this season. The Wolves and Fulham both had a net spend of £100m as newly promoted sides.

Neither do I, but Everton were spending from a different starting point to both Fulham and Wolves.

I'm not entirely familiar with their funding or budgets either but there's been enough speculation in the press regarding the wealth of Fulham's owner and the wheres and whys of Wolves fundings and contacts.

Further to this £60,000,000 is not an insignificant amount of money especially when weighed against overall ins and outs.

Link below (which I've just looked up) for reference as to why I believe you may be stretching a point.

Ed: Oops, forgot the link  ;D ..........

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1
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« Reply #7901 on: February 06, 2019, 04:04:52 PM »
Well from that list you remain on 0  :-* .

Pulis - Failing to replace him in May, as I predicted, caused us to get relegated.
Dean Smith - Brentford completely tailed off following his departure, only recently showing an upturn but remain in 17th place, hardly a roaring success.
Marco Silva - Everton at this stage last season had 31 points (2 fewer than they now have) and a -12 goal difference which is currently 0. Would hardly call that fraudulent management...in addition to his hands being tied by the fact Allardyce blew their budget on Walcott and Tosun meaning that he has no room to manoeuvre in terms of wages in the transfer market.

Aside from being completely wrong as ever, you are completely correct my friend  ;)


We sacked him mid season and got relegated can't be any more right than that.


Brentford now fine once new man settled in. Currently one of the forms teams in the division.


A large proportion of Everton fans want Silva out. Has now flattered to deceive/failed in 3 PL jobs.


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Anyway as we're on this thread...


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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7902 on: February 08, 2019, 09:41:52 PM »
Cheers Villa, nod to Henderson also  ;)
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« Reply #7903 on: February 08, 2019, 10:34:30 PM »
Cheers Villa, nod to Henderson also  ;)

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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7904 on: February 13, 2019, 08:22:38 PM »
How bad are they?  Never seen such an impact of losing 1 player on the whole team.

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« Reply #7905 on: February 13, 2019, 10:01:47 PM »
Tonight seems to have tipped the scales on Smith Out. Didn't McFickle say he'd be back about now? We HAVE to beat these Saturday, not because of our little one sided rivalry ,  but because they're utterly sh1t.
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« Reply #7906 on: February 13, 2019, 10:12:38 PM »
They are utter trash.  Smith has got 13pts from the last 12 games.  We need to get at them from the start.  An early goal and their fans will be on their backs.

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« Reply #7907 on: February 13, 2019, 10:31:59 PM »
Tonight seems to have tipped the scales on Smith Out. Didn't McFickle say he'd be back about now? We HAVE to beat these Saturday, not because of our little one sided rivalry ,  but because they're utterly sh1t.

HaHa, says he who lives 90 miles away  ::) you really have no idea.
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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7908 on: February 13, 2019, 11:04:56 PM »
HaHa, says he who lives 90 miles away  ::) you really have no idea.

Totally agree, they claim not to care but I know plenty who care a lot.
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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7909 on: February 13, 2019, 11:23:52 PM »
Has anyone watched Quest tonight ? apparantely Dean Ashton said West Brom fans must feel a bit agrieved after seeing Tammy Abraham taking an un-natural dive to try to get a penalty, anyone see the dive ?
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« Reply #7910 on: February 14, 2019, 06:35:56 AM »
Has anyone watched Quest tonight ? apparantely Dean Ashton said West Brom fans must feel a bit agrieved after seeing Tammy Abraham taking an un-natural dive to try to get a penalty, anyone see the dive ?

Yeah I saw it, defenders foot is planted & Abraham initiates contact with his foot in like a hooking movement, goes down like a dying swan but Refs not having any of it, I think if the penalty had been given (Smith said it was a definite pen afterwards  ::) plank!) we would be debating the similarities with Gayles. 
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« Reply #7911 on: February 14, 2019, 06:51:18 AM »
Totally agree, they claim not to care but I know plenty who care a lot.

Absolutely, I know plenty who hate us with a passion.
I think Jacko would rather have a rivalry with a club 80 miles from where he lives, then admit we have one with a club 3 miles away, don't want to open this debate AGAIN but in my lifetime the vile has always been our biggest derby, in my formative years the dings were an inconsequential little club getting 5k crowds & begging for their existence, fully admire where they are now & the way they are going about their  business, not trying to strangle the life out of football as we did under a previous manager.     
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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7912 on: February 14, 2019, 03:31:14 PM »
The vile are the ones we hate the most as it's a couple of miles away, I'm sure you'd get the the seal park quicker from our ground than from saint andrews too.

The Dings are over 12 miles away.

The dingle derby only gained a significance after Bull and Thompson left us and their new team finally reached a high enough level to play us again, which then was basically every year then for a long time.

Historically too, the WBA v Vile game was classed as the Derby of the Midlands.

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« Reply #7913 on: February 14, 2019, 03:44:48 PM »
The vile are the ones we hate the most as it's a couple of miles away, I'm sure you'd get the the seal park quicker from our ground than from saint andrews too.

The Dings are over 12 miles away.

The dingle derby only gained a significance after Bull and Thompson left us and their new team finally reached a high enough level to play us again, which then was basically every year then for a long time.

Historically too, the WBA v Vile game was classed as the Derby of the Midlands.

You that should say, obviously many others as well.

Definitely not for me.

I do feel a bit sorry for those who main Rivals are the villa as it’s not pure hatred from both sides. The majority of them see blues as their main rivals where as when you go to molineux it’s pure hatred from both sides and makes for a real tense atmosphere.

Villa Park on the other hand has had 5-10k empty seats against us many times where as you can’t get a ticket anytime Blues turn up there. I don’t think villa have sold out for Saturday yet have they? All gone about a week before when they played villa.

Just seems a whole different experience going to villa park compared to the molineux

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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7914 on: February 14, 2019, 03:58:00 PM »
You that should say, obviously many others as well.

Definitely not for me.

I do feel a bit sorry for those who main Rivals are the villa as it’s not pure hatred from both sides. The majority of them see blues as their main rivals where as when you go to molineux it’s pure hatred from both sides and makes for a real tense atmosphere.

Villa Park on the other hand has had 5-10k empty seats against us many times where as you can’t get a ticket anytime Blues turn up there. I don’t think villa have sold out for Saturday yet have they? All gone about a week before when they played villa.

Just seems a whole different experience going to villa park compared to the molineux


Agreed, I don't doubt some Albion fans hatred of Villa, I just know it's not reciprocated.
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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7915 on: February 14, 2019, 04:04:07 PM »
I think it's down to the catchment area really.  Geographically, left to right, you get....
Wolves...West Brom...Villa...Birmingham

So we're squished between Wolves and Villa.  I'm more from Black Country side so the rivalry is more with Wolves.  I guess if you're closer to Birmingham it would be Villa.  And explains why we don't really have that much rivalry with Birmingham.

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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7916 on: February 14, 2019, 04:06:30 PM »
Nobody in Great Barr knew where wolverhampton was when i was a lad, they were just some club in the 4th division!

Witton town on the other hand !
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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7917 on: February 14, 2019, 04:20:18 PM »
All my Villa mates hate us, the ones under 30 years old hate blues more but they still hate us.

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« Reply #7918 on: February 14, 2019, 04:24:46 PM »
I think it's down to the catchment area really.  Geographically, left to right, you get....
Wolves...West Brom...Villa...Birmingham

So we're squished between Wolves and Villa.  I'm more from Black Country side so the rivalry is more with Wolves.  I guess if you're closer to Birmingham it would be Villa.  And explains why we don't really have that much rivalry with Birmingham.
This. I'm from the Black Country and it's definitely Wolves, always has been in my 40 odd years supporting. I only knew 2 Villa fans growing up.

Live in Great Barr now, however and it's definitely Villa, don't think I've even seen a Dingle over here.

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« Reply #7919 on: February 14, 2019, 04:28:04 PM »
My comment that kicked this off wasn't about whether Albions true rivals were Villa or Wolves, but that of the two clubs, only one is bothered by us (and it's not Villa).
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« Reply #7920 on: February 14, 2019, 04:38:59 PM »
Grew up in Smethwick and not from a football family so when i first went down the Albion in 67 i would have said who? to both wolves and vila as they were in the lower league .
Started work in 69 around Birmingham and its then i became aware of the arrogant S***e from Witton who were giving it large even though they were bottom of Div 2 and about to go into Div 3.
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« Reply #7921 on: February 14, 2019, 04:39:48 PM »
My comment that kicked this off wasn't about whether Albions true rivals were Villa or Wolves, but that of the two clubs, only one is bothered by us (and it's not Villa).

Anyone who saw them celebrate in front of our fans after beating us in a fa qf at their place a couple of years ago will be able to confirm that the hatred is there from them towards us from the vile, it is just some of them try to dismiss that hatred, as it is hard for them to say they care about the rivalry because in the last 10 years or so we have been above them and they cannot lord it over us like they can against the blose.

Thos celebrations after the QF was like they won the league, cup and world cup, and it was funny Mozza tripping one of their scumbags as he ran past him.

It's probably the last time Mozza was fit enough to tackle anyone to be fair.

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« Reply #7922 on: February 14, 2019, 05:15:15 PM »
Anyone who saw them celebrate in front of our fans after beating us in a fa qf at their place a couple of years ago will be able to confirm that the hatred is there from them towards us from the vile, it is just some of them try to dismiss that hatred, as it is hard for them to say they care about the rivalry because in the last 10 years or so we have been above them and they cannot lord it over us like they can against the blose.

Thos celebrations after the QF was like they won the league, cup and world cup, and it was funny Mozza tripping one of their scumbags as he ran past him.

It's probably the last time Mozza was fit enough to tackle anyone to be fair.

To be fair they were the same after they beat Blackburn in the League Cup semi final a few years ago

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« Reply #7923 on: February 14, 2019, 05:39:26 PM »
To anyone who thinks the villa don't hate us then you have been very lucky over the years and not been in contact with many.

It may be an age thing as until the Bull era there was no wolves fans around and they didn't give a stuff about us as much as they do now either. They will always be bothered about us as they have no-one other than Walsall to give a stuff about.

Villa have 2 rivals, one they openly admit to hating which is the blues but then us who they claim not to give a toss about but they do and always have done especially areas closer to us than Blues.

Personally I couldn't care less about the dingles, love to beat them every time but apart from a few knobhead fans thats it.
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Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« Reply #7924 on: February 14, 2019, 06:34:09 PM »
Age old debate!

But it’s Vile for me, the only reason Wolves have a thing for us is because of jealousy

Pity the Wolves

Hate the Villa

That’s how I was brought up in our Albion family, my Nan hated Villa but never had a bad word about Wolves, as above she pitied them  8) ;D
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