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« Reply #200 on: July 09, 2012, 04:14:23 PM »
Dont want or need Rangers in the EPL or any other English League.
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« Reply #201 on: July 09, 2012, 06:44:53 PM »
Rangers are not allowed under UEFA rules to join the English league. Rangers fans know this and have explained the reasons in depth on their forums. People keep quoting Cardiff and Swansea but they are exempt only because when they joins the English pyramid a hundred or so years ago there was no Welsh league and there were no rules. The other examples usually have political reasons - things Rangers cant claim.

Even if they were, the outrage it would cause if Rangers were admitted into conference means it would not happen.
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« Reply #202 on: July 10, 2012, 02:19:59 PM »
This has dragged on long enough now. The Scottish season starts 3 weeks on Saturday. Getting tedious now.
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« Reply #203 on: July 10, 2012, 11:31:25 PM »
Explain to me how a demotion to division 1 with a 20 point deduction is a worse punishment to Rangers than demotion to divison 3 ? ???

Because one is more preferable to the club and fans than the other  ???
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« Reply #204 on: July 11, 2012, 06:56:37 AM »
Just digressing for a second from all this Rangers (Celtic) stuff. What would really help Scottish Football is if just 2 or 3 other clubs could significantly improve their facilities and lift their profile to add some much needed competition. Off course I realise that investment is needed from somewhere be it private or public or a combination. But if Hibs and Hearts were to build a super stadium in Edinburgh to share and possibly a nice big new stadiums in Dundee and Inverness to serve the east coast and highland football fraternities then IMO this would be the sort of real vision needed to lift Scottish Football out of the doldrums. At the moment all the talk seems to be of contraction and that to me is an ever decreasing circle.

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« Reply #205 on: July 11, 2012, 11:29:33 AM »
This has dragged on long enough now. The Scottish season starts 3 weeks on Saturday. Getting tedious now.

Too right.

Not only do Rangers not know what league they're playing in, they don't even have a squad!
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« Reply #206 on: July 11, 2012, 11:31:41 AM »
Too right.

Not only do Rangers* not know what league they're** playing in, they*** don't even have a squad!

Don't you mean

we*

we're**

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« Reply #207 on: July 11, 2012, 11:39:52 AM »
Don't you mean

we*

we're**

and we***

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I was expecting a wind of abuse if I carried on refering to them as "we" and "we're"  :D
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« Reply #208 on: July 11, 2012, 11:41:24 AM »
Interesting take on the Rangers situation form one of the smaller clubs now being impacted by the debacle.

 http://albionroversfc.com/?p=2395

I think they have a point.
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« Reply #209 on: July 11, 2012, 08:19:53 PM »
According to the SFA they have informed Rangers that they cant have Hawk Eye goal line technology fitted next season......................it doesn't work with jumpers

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« Reply #210 on: July 11, 2012, 08:49:26 PM »
Jokes about Rangers are not tolerated on the board at all  :D

You've all got me, that's enough jokes!
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« Reply #211 on: July 11, 2012, 09:00:12 PM »
Relief for Rangers F.C. as an ex club legend acts as a saviour for the club.

Gazza's shown up at Ibrox with a six pack and some KFC.
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« Reply #212 on: July 11, 2012, 09:01:43 PM »
Being a Rangers fan must be like playing Championship Manager for 140 years and forgetting to save your game.
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« Reply #213 on: July 11, 2012, 09:03:47 PM »
Relief for Rangers F.C. as an ex club legend acts as a saviour for the club.

Gazza's shown up at Ibrox with a six pack and some KFC.
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« Reply #214 on: July 11, 2012, 09:07:11 PM »
Being a Rangers fan must be like playing Championship Manager for 140 years and forgetting to save your game.

Weren't saying that a month or two back when you were at Parkhead!  ;)
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« Reply #215 on: July 11, 2012, 09:10:12 PM »
Is that the ground of the only SPL team in Glasgow ?
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« Reply #216 on: July 11, 2012, 09:15:15 PM »
Unfortunately.

The other and most successful team in the world have gone on an extended vacation  :D
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« Reply #217 on: July 12, 2012, 12:09:07 AM »
Because one is more preferable to the club and fans than the other  ???

I ma talking about the degree of punishment here, not what the fans want !! And the higher degree of punishment is to div 3. Riddculous arguement ! Where will it take Rangers longer to get back from, Div 3 or Div 1. ???
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« Reply #218 on: July 13, 2012, 02:25:06 PM »
Its been confirmed that Rangers will play in England next season. When they play Berwick in the Scottish third division
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« Reply #219 on: July 13, 2012, 04:07:16 PM »
Yes!!  :D  :D

Sporting integrity has prevailed and not the finances of the SFA. On a down beat note for Scottish football, there are some clubs in the SPL who are certainly facing a rough time ahead. As for Rangers, well, we get the chance to regroup and rebuild. The whole process has been a farce and should never have lasted this long.

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« Reply #220 on: July 13, 2012, 05:10:45 PM »
Please, god, not a SPL2. :-X
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« Reply #221 on: July 13, 2012, 05:11:24 PM »
As expected. Not looking bright for Inverness Caley Thistle who are the latest to produce a statement:

INVERNESS Caledonian Thistle chairman Kenny Cameron says the decision to place the 'Newco' Rangers into the third division next season could "spell the end of football as we know it."

Scottish Football League clubs met at Hampden Park this morning to come to a decision on where Charles Green's newco Ibrox club would play,and 25 of the 30 clubs voted the club into the bottom tier.
Cameron has said the club's directors are set for an emergency meeting this weekend to discuss the financial implications of the decision.
In a statement, Mr Cameron said today was saddening for Scottish clubs, and that no club would escape the consequences.
The statement, in full, reads as follows: "There will now inevitably be serious consequences for the game in Scotland.

"We have all, as clubs, accepted the views of our stakeholders in making the initial judgement to uphold sporting integrity.

"All clubs will now have to live with the repercussions of this decision. Scottish football was at a crossroads today in terms of what was on the table for all clubs regarding reorganisation, financial distribution and a road map that would have taken the game forward.

"But this has now been thrown in to disarray by this decision. This is a sad day for all clubs in Scotland."

Mr Cameron added: "None of us will escape the financial fallout from this. There was an opportunity on the table, in terms of the joint agreement tabled at today’s meeting for us all to come together and a genuine willingness to improve the game substantially over the coming years.

"But it now looks as though this will once again be kicked back in to the long grass. A once in a lifetime opportunity to bring forward change may well have been lost.

"The directors of ICTFC are fully aware of the financial implications of this latest decision on Newco. The loss of either our fans or our sponsors was never going to leave any of the clubs in Scotland in a healthy financial position and for some this could spell the end of football as we know it.

"Certain clubs in the SFL have perceived the financial information they were receiving as a 'big stick' to beat them into accepting Newco in the First Division. This was definitely not the case, as far as I am concerned. What they were being told was the reality of the situation."
The chairman concluded: "We will be convening an emergency board meeting over the weekend to discuss the very serious financial implications for us as a club going forward."
The Glasgow club was forced to apply to the SFL after a meeting of SPL clubs last week voted against the newco joining the top tier.
Rangers went into administration on February 14 owing over £130 million to creditors.
The club will be liquidated, meaning its registration with the Scottish Football Association and SPL ended. A Green-led consortium bought Gers' assests for £5.5 million and created the Rangers newco.
A number of the Glasgow club's first-team players have signed with other clubs, rather than play for the newco in a lower division, but manager Ally McCoist has stayed.
A decision of whether to let Dunfermline, who were relegated from the SPL last season, or Dundee, who finished second to Ross County in the first division, is imminent


As much as the decision to place the newco into the 3rd division is the correct one, I expect many statements in the next coming days similar to the one which has been produced. St Mirren, Dundee, Hibernian, Motherwell, Hearts, Kilmarnock and Aberdeen would be my bet for the most likely to struggle.
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« Reply #222 on: July 13, 2012, 06:02:59 PM »
It will only spell the end of Scottish football if clubs keep spending money they don't have. Scotland is not a hotbed of football as people try to make out, they have two massive clubs, 3 or 4 decent sized (Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, possibly Dundee Utd) and then others to make the numbers up.

Clubs will have to fit in now with wage structures they can afford. Problem is clubs try to use TV money which can be pulled at any time especially in a lower league such as the Scottish League.
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« Reply #223 on: July 13, 2012, 06:21:13 PM »
The comments of "it will end Scottish football" are ridiculous. The situation where the entire footballing system in Scotland is dependant on 2 teams should never have been allowed to happen in the first place.
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« Reply #224 on: July 13, 2012, 06:46:36 PM »
Love Rangers fans arrogance who believe this will be the end for smaller Scottish clubs while they will be fine. Newscheck, this means the Scottish league's position in the co-efficient able will slide. The lower down the table they go, the less places in Europe they get (1 champions league place, less and less Europe league spots). This means less chance of champions league revenue and a poorer and poorer standard of player for Rangers.

The quicker Rangers fans finally realise this, and te quicker they realise they now need to accept their punishment and work with the rest of Scottish football to try to save it, the better.
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