[johnny Cash]

Villa are our proper rivals. Wolves mean about as much to me as Ipswich do. They can win 20 Champions Leagues in a row for all I care. They will only become important to me if we are challenging them.

Lots of Albion fans seem to have an opinion (some might say get annoyed) that some villa fans discount our rivalry yet we have some Albion fans discounting wolves as a ‘proper’ rivalry and it’s nonsense. They are both real rivals.

People often say historically it’s villa, but even that’s can be argued.

80s, 90’s, 00’s - wolves were more relative to us without doubt and that rivalry intensified
60’s 70’s - seems the general consensus is it was villa

Pre 60s it doesn’t seem football rivalry was quite the same, I could be wrong.

Last 10 - shared a division more closely with villa

So historically it seems pretty even. History isn’t just about first, it’s all history.

[OldburyWBA]

Lots of Albion fans seem to have an opinion (some might say get annoyed) that some villa fans discount our rivalry yet we have some Albion fans discounting wolves as a ‘proper’ rivalry and it’s nonsense. They are both real rivals.

People often say historically it’s villa, but even that’s can be argued.

80s, 90’s, 00’s - wolves were more relative to us without doubt and that rivalry intensified
60’s 70’s - seems the general consensus is it was villa

Pre 60s it doesn’t seem football rivalry was quite the same, I could be wrong.

Last 10 - shared a division more closely with villa

So historically it seems pretty even. History isn’t just about first, it’s all history.

If you read the history books there was trouble between Albion fans and Villa in the 1880's throwing stuff at stage coaches going to games.

[dont ask me to choose luv]

If you read the history books there was trouble between Albion fans and Villa in the 1880's throwing stuff at stage coaches going to games.

I think that was the year after the vile won the Ottoman Empire trophy & never shut up about it until the 1930's

[SmethDan]

Lots of Albion fans seem to have an opinion (some might say get annoyed) that some villa fans discount our rivalry yet we have some Albion fans discounting wolves as a ‘proper’ rivalry and it’s nonsense. They are both real rivals.

People often say historically it’s villa, but even that’s can be argued.

80s, 90’s, 00’s - wolves were more relative to us without doubt and that rivalry intensified
60’s 70’s - seems the general consensus is it was villa

Pre 60s it doesn’t seem football rivalry was quite the same, I could be wrong.

Last 10 - shared a division more closely with villa

So historically it seems pretty even. History isn’t just about first, it’s all history.

While I despise the Vile far more I acknowledge others see things differently and sh ite does indeed cometh from darkness. When we play the Dogheads my focus is turned squarely on the psychedelic tangarines, they can't stand the sight of us so it would be rude and very Vileresque not to.

In my opinion it's perfectly fine and acceptable to have no time for either club, as with a few rare exceptions I've found vast swathes of their supporters to be absolute w@nkers and one eyes of the highest order. That'll do it for me regardless of any historical trophy counts and matches won or lost.

Football is cyclical meaning rivalries become more or less intense over time and opportunity. I can't stand the Wolves in the build up to games or on the day itself, more so when we didn't get to play the Vile. For me normal service has been resumed but hopefully next season enables the resumption of another rivalry, while the Vile rot after being declared insolvent and cease to exist.

SOTV and FTW  .

[OldburyWBA]

To be fair although the vile top my list I also absolutely detest Reading, every single thing about the place and the club.

[BigFrank20]

To be fair although the vile top my list I also absolutely detest Reading, every single thing about the place and the club.

Is this the right place to ask why?
I have to admit it's not a place I relish visiting but have no idea why

[OldburyWBA]

Is this the right place to ask why?
I have to admit it's not a place I relish visiting but have no idea why

Just took an instant dislike the first time I went, fans seemed very arrogant for some reason and I just hated it , nothing has changed my mind since, even when i've been for non football stuff, just hate the place. 

[Jotas_right_foot]

Absolute tosh some of you are speaking, none of you can admit we are rivals because we are so far ahead of you and you don’t like to admit it.
When you were head and shoulders above us I hated you with a passion, an absolute passion, the BCD is well known as being one of the biggest derbies around.
There’s rivalry between all Midlands club, I detest blues, absolutely hate them and after last season I really hate Villa too and while they hate us they will both admit that their real derby is blues v villa, and yours is with us.

[OldburyWBA]

Absolute tosh some of you are speaking, none of you can admit we are rivals because we are so far ahead of you and you don’t like to admit it.
When you were head and shoulders above us I hated you with a passion, an absolute passion, the BCD is well known as being one of the biggest derbies around.
There’s rivalry between all Midlands club, I detest blues, absolutely hate them and after last season I really hate Villa too and while they hate us they will both admit that their real derby is blues v villa, and yours is with us.

  I don't care what you do, you're irrelevant, I never saw a dingle fan at school, no-one cared about you then all of sudden we gave you the saviour and millions appeared. To me you're a local derby which we always want to win and last one we did comfortably.

[The Tank]

Absolute tosh some of you are speaking, none of you can admit we are rivals because we are so far ahead of you and you don’t like to admit it.
When you were head and shoulders above us I hated you with a passion, an absolute passion, the BCD is well known as being one of the biggest derbies around.
There’s rivalry between all Midlands club, I detest blues, absolutely hate them and after last season I really hate Villa too and while they hate us they will both admit that their real derby is blues v villa, and yours is with us.

You must hate teacher too.

[EastYorksAlbion]

Absolute tosh some of you are speaking, none of you can admit we are rivals because we are so far ahead of you and you don’t like to admit it.
When you were head and shoulders above us I hated you with a passion, an absolute passion, the BCD is well known as being one of the biggest derbies around.
There’s rivalry between all Midlands club, I detest blues, absolutely hate them and after last season I really hate Villa too and while they hate us they will both admit that their real derby is blues v villa, and yours is with us.

Yes The BCD is important and yes it is big, and I think what makes it is the fact that over the years with some ups and downs in both sides, we are similar sized clubs, and always will be.  However, for me Villa will always be the big one.

[wba_1996]

Wolves fans are obsessed with Albion. I hate them, but the obsession they have with us is on another level to anything I've seen in other rivalries. When we were in the Prem I couldn't care less about them, genuinely forgot they existed a few times when they were in League 1. Now they're having a bit of relative success it's unreal, I can't even look at Albion-related twitter threads or news articles without dozens of them in the comments. I popped on MolMix in the summer to check what players they were chasing (as I do with lots of clubs, genuine interest) and there were about 4 or 5 Albion-related threads on the first page. Now we've even got one posting on our own forum about how much we should care about them...

I know a lot of them don't have much in their lives' outside of Wolves but for some it's so far past an obsession I feel a bit sorry for them. The best Wolves team in 60 years and they're more concerned with all things Albion. No doubt there's dozens of dingles reading this very post.

[SmethDan]

Wolves fans are obsessed with Albion. I hate them, but the obsession they have with us is on another level to anything I've seen in other rivalries...................Now we've even got one posting on our own forum about how much we should care about them

Celtic and Rangers want a word.

Personally speaking I'm glad our new friend came along to give us our collective opinion.

Very considerate as it gives me more time to obsess over the Vile (according to Vilers - yawn).

As previously stated SOTV and FTW  .

[Jotas_right_foot]

Holy **** the irony...taking the **** about me posting on a wba forum when I’m posting on your own forum at a thread dedicated to Wolves!!!

Seriously though...you’re rivalry with villa will be bigger at the moment because you’re in direct competition with them for promotion, just as it seemed our rivalry with them had gone through the roof last season because again we were in direct competition with them, in reality they were just a bunch of bad losing billy big boots, apparently they won the European cup a hundred years ago or something.

I genuinely hope you sneak promotion, I really do, the BCD is a fantastic game, I savour every minute, apart from the ones when I’m normally dying inside having watched you beat us again lol, come back up, the games wth Leicester just aren’t the same

[dont ask me to choose luv]

Holy rubbish the irony...taking the **** about me posting on a wba forum when I’m posting on your own forum at a thread dedicated to Wolves!!!

Seriously though...you’re rivalry with villa will be bigger at the moment because you’re in direct competition with them for promotion, just as it seemed our rivalry with them had gone through the roof last season because again we were in direct competition with them, in reality they were just a bunch of bad losing billy big boots, apparently they won the European cup a hundred years ago or something.I genuinely hope you sneak promotion, I really do, the BCD is a fantastic game, I savour every minute, apart from the ones when I’m normally dying inside having watched you beat us again lol, come back up, the games wth Leicester just aren’t the same
 

Just a little insignificent club to me, the vile are a million miles ahead of you, try going on the oatcake, they're your derby.

[Jotas_right_foot]

Yeah of course they are lol, you keep telling yourself that sunshine ☀️

[TheJacko2000]

Yeah of course they are lol, you keep telling yourself that sunshine ☀️

There are a lot of Albion who see Villa as our biggest rivals. There is no doubt however that collectively 'our' derby is the BCD and theirs is the 2nd City derby vs Blues.

[SmethDan]

1. Holy rubbish the irony...taking the **** about me posting on a wba forum 2. when I’m posting on your own forum at a thread dedicated to Wolves!!!

3. Seriously though...you’re rivalry with villa will be bigger at the moment because you’re in direct competition with them for promotion, just as it seemed our rivalry with them had gone through the roof last season because again we were in direct competition with them, 4. in reality they were just a bunch of bad losing billy big boots, 5. apparently they won the European cup a hundred years ago or something.

6. I genuinely hope you sneak promotion, I really do, 7. the BCD is a fantastic game, I savour every minute, apart from the ones when I’m normally dying inside having watched you beat us again lol, come back up, 8. the games wth Leicester just aren’t the same

1. You noticed? Well done you  .

2. Yes that's correct - our thread on an Albion forum about you lot - not your thread about us lot . #obsessed  .

3. Yes for many of us the traditional rivalry with Villa is much bigger than the one we have with you, others hate the Wolves with an undying passion. Personally speaking I never even knowingly met a Doghead until I was nineteen, much less did I realise just how much you lot hate us. Must be an inferiority complex given you'd have gone bust were it not for Ron Saunders and the Albion supporters who helped yours out with collection buckets in your clubs darkest hours. Sorry if you feel a little left out by those of us who detest the Vile more than we do the Wolves. As stated further above I focus very firmly on your lot when we play you. I'll try to hate Wolves a little more when we play you again though if it makes you feel any better. Whooooh, angry face.

4. You don't have to tell us as we already know and have done for some time.

5. Really? They never mention it, strange really as you'd think they would. You mean they actually won the top trophy in Europe when it was your lot who practically invented the competition after winning a couple of friendlies in the fifties? How very rude of them.

6. You want us to get promotion for one reason and one reason alone, you think you'll slap us all over the place just like many Wolves supporters seemed to think you would when the now departed Sir Jack Hayward was spunking his money down the drain.

7. There have been some great games, there's been some absolute stinkers too though such as the 0-0 at our place when Andy Hunt should have scored from the spot.

8. I feel the same about the Blues, but I'm reliably informed that you hate them too. You may need anger management.

Nice of you to pop over, toodle pip and nighty night  .

[SmethDan]

There are a lot of Albion who see Villa as our biggest rivals. There is no doubt however that collectively 'our' derby is the BCD and theirs is the 2nd City derby vs Blues.

There's no doubt for you, you don't speak for me though just as I don't speak for you.

FTW and SOTV.

[caravanc58]

have I missed something? have wolves won anything?streets ahead of us! your trying to emulate what we've done the last decade.

[TheJacko2000]

There's no doubt for you, you don't speak for me though just as I don't speak for you.

FTW and SOTV.

I'm not speaking for you mate. I'm speaking generally,  I'm speaking about perception from outside our fans. I'm talking about Villa Park rarely selling out against us. I'm talking about Vile fans being bothered they lost, but not that they lost to us. We're barely mentioned in any of the **** posts on VT it's all about their manager etc. This defeat hasn't bothered them anymore than losing to Brentford in midweek did.

[Albionic]

Surely the Dogheads local derby is Walsall !

We are about 3 miles from Vile park (as crow flies) but 15? from moulinex

From great barr you can see both Witton park and the shrine, you need a satellite to do same with the shrine and custard bowl

Not a lot to work out really!

[Atomic]

One hundred and forty odd years of history says that Villa are our proper rivals. Wolves don't even come close.

The Villa rivalry did die down for a while when they were challenging for leagues and cups while we went into freefall  and Wolves took advantage of that and created a new rivalry.

Now though the old, proper rivalry has intensified again and it's definitely getting back to how it should be.

[Aztech]

There are a lot of Albion who see Villa as our biggest rivals. There is no doubt however that collectively 'our' derby is the BCD and theirs is the 2nd City derby vs Blues.

I’d suggest a lot is in fact a majority

[Dexy]

Again I think a lot goes on your age bracket , I'm late 30's now and growing up it was Wolves for me especially the era they were chucking money about and we played them on a regular basis .
Villa seemed so far off none of the other Midland clubs would get near so I never really got that feeling for them.
Obviously we haven't played Wolves since smacking them about for a few seasons and Villa came back on our Radar , i'll always dislike Wolves but having had my first taste of the arrogance and mentality of Villa after our first promotion I can see why they are number 1 enemy for many Albion fans .