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Re: Anything Stoke
« Reply #925 on: July 13, 2018, 09:30:29 PM »
“Liverpool sign Xherdan Shaqiri for £13m on five-year deal from Stoke ”

They have some spare cash, wonder who / what they’ll spend it on?

Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/13/liverpool-sign-xherdan-shaqiri-13m-five-year-deal-stoke/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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« Reply #926 on: July 13, 2018, 09:57:28 PM »
Do they want Barry?

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« Reply #927 on: July 14, 2018, 09:20:46 PM »
Do they want Barry?
Reckon we can get 14mil of them 😂
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« Reply #928 on: July 24, 2018, 01:25:54 PM »
Stoke have singed Tom Ince for £10million. Looks like Stoke are trying to buy their way out of the Championship.
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« Reply #929 on: July 24, 2018, 01:27:14 PM »
Stoke have singed Tom Ince for £10million. Looks like Stoke are trying to buy their way out of the Championship.
Doing a villa? but with loadsadosh behind them. Problem will be FFP if they don't make it back sharpish.
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« Reply #930 on: July 24, 2018, 01:27:25 PM »
Stoke have singed Tom Ince for £10million. Looks like Stoke are trying to buy their way out of the Championship.


Wow. He's no better than McClean.

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« Reply #931 on: July 24, 2018, 01:29:21 PM »

Wow. He's no better than McClean.

Not so sure about that, Ince isn't mid / top-prem quality but he's better than McLean (IMO anyway)
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« Reply #932 on: July 24, 2018, 01:36:28 PM »
They seem confident about signing Chester, so we might get our £2m yet..........
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« Reply #933 on: July 24, 2018, 01:49:20 PM »
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« Reply #934 on: July 24, 2018, 02:18:18 PM »
We should get Chester back,would only cost us £6 mill.

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« Reply #935 on: July 24, 2018, 02:23:53 PM »
We're miles behind these in terms of preparation, management structure, planning and player recruitment.

Embarrassing considering that we had an extra month and a half to plan for this season.

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« Reply #936 on: July 24, 2018, 02:55:26 PM »
We're miles behind these in terms of preparation, management structure, planning and player recruitment.

Embarrassing considering that we had an extra month and a half to plan for this season.


No idea how you come to that conclusion.
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« Reply #937 on: July 24, 2018, 03:41:07 PM »
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« Reply #938 on: July 24, 2018, 03:54:45 PM »

No idea how you come to that conclusion.

You can only comment on it from an outside perspective but on the face of it, I see no other argument.

Preparation - We had a month and a half (at the very least) extra in terms of preparing a promotion charge for the upcoming season. Fast forward to less than two weeks before the start of the season and let's see where both clubs are.

Stoke have a manager and management team in place (including specialised coaches - SKP as striker coach). Although some Stoke fans are not always happy about how long it takes them to negotiate transfers, they have a clear structure which supports Rowett with signing players.

We STILL have not got an assistant manager and if it is Graeme Jones as speculated, he will have missed the entirety of pre-season and had nothing to do with any incoming transfers, something that you must presume Moore is involved in. We lost two chief scouts at the end of last season and correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe they have been replaced. Then we look at our technical director. We currently have somebody on the books who, to my knowledge, is doing absolutely nothing at the club. Rumour has it he fell out with current players and it has since been confirmed that he has been pushed out to the side until the end of his contract. Are we still looking for a technical director? Who's calling the shots with transfers?

Management structure - Pretty much explained above.

Planning - Not an easy one to judge as you never truly know but especially with Richard Garlick leaving, who is setting the agenda with transfers? Just Jenkins? As fans, at the moment nobody is sure who is calling the shots at the club.

Player recruitment Yes, we're all laughing for them at signing McClean for what looks like a stupid amount of money. However, he is a proven performer at this level. When we signed him from Wigan, that season in the Championship, he scored 6/7 goals and chipped in with the same amount of assists. You hope that with a decent spell at Barnsley that Ashley Barnes could do something similar but I cannot help to be underwhelmed by signing a player on loan from Leicester, who, whatever happens, will have nothing to do with us after the next 12 months. Afobe is a cracking signing at this level. Guaranteed goals if he has the service. Tom Ince, at a pricey 10 million, is another proven performer who will provide goals and assists. Sam Johnstone is a cracking signing and the other keepers should really be back up for us.

Yet, at the moment, with Dawson's head all over the place, could you possibly tell who our centre-back partnership is going to be? Are Newcastle going to activate Rondon's release clause? Then what? 

Although this is a pessimistic way of thinking, my general point is that before the season starts there are a lot more questions being asked of us than that of Stoke. There is much uncertainty at our Club at the moment from top to bottom.
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« Reply #939 on: July 24, 2018, 04:17:48 PM »
We have lost three of our arguably our three biggest disappointments from last season - Evans, Greg and Sturridge.

We have lost squad players (myhill, yacob and Gmac) who rarely featured under Big Dave.

Big Dave coached the majority of this squad for the last six weeks of the season, he has seen them previous, he has a big advantage on Rowett there who has only been working with his players since pre-season began, admittedly ideally we would of had an assistant manager by now but if it is Jones and thats who Big Dave wanted, surely its best to wait for who you want than panic and get your 2nd or 3rd choice.

We dont know what sort of manager Big Dave will be and how much of a success he will be, however the same can be said of Rowett. Rowett has a good reputation but at the time of writing has not pulled up any trees in the championship, he steadied Blues then harshly got the sack, he spent big at Derby and failed to get them up.

There is a big difference between steadying the ship and getting a team promoted, he in under big pressure at Stoke, he didnt do it at Derby, be interesting to see how he does at Stoke. Also ask most Blues fans and they will say as much as they appreciate the job he did, his football is awful, it may of improved in time but his spell at Derby would suggest that isnt the case, after Hughes and Lambert, Stoke fans may be getting more of the same.

The above could apply to us with Darren Moore, but people getting carried away about Stoke, they have signed three decent championship players - Afobe, McClean and Ince, not even top players, at least Wolves got Neves and Jota last season.

Stoke may get Chester, looked good at Villa, and i think he would get into our team, however based on our current squad, Ince maybe would get games, not sure Mcclean and Afobe would.

We may lose Rondon, they may lose Butland, its all if and buts but personally i am yet to see the great business stoke have supposedly done.

PS - I am not saying we have done great either, i would still like us to sign 1 or 2 creative players.
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« Reply #940 on: July 24, 2018, 04:24:46 PM »
We have lost three of our arguably our three biggest disappointments from last season - Evans, Greg and Sturridge.

We have lost squad players (myhill, yacob and Gmac) who rarely featured under Big Dave.

Big Dave coached the majority of this squad for the last six weeks of the season, he has seen them previous, he has a big advantage on Rowett there who has only been working with his players since pre-season began, admittedly ideally we would of had an assistant manager by now but if it is Jones and thats who Big Dave wanted, surely its best to wait for who you want than panic and get your 2nd or 3rd choice.

We dont know what sort of manager Big Dave will be and how much of a success he will be, however the same can be said of Rowett. Rowett has a good reputation but at the time of writing has not pulled up any trees in the championship, he steadied Blues then harshly got the sack, he spent big at Derby and failed to get them up.

There is a big difference between steadying the ship and getting a team promoted, he in under big pressure at Stoke, he didnt do it at Derby, be interesting to see how he does at Stoke. Also ask most Blues fans and they will say as much as they appreciate the job he did, his football is awful, it may of improved in time but his spell at Derby would suggest that isnt the case, after Hughes and Lambert, Stoke fans may be getting more of the same.

The above could apply to us with Darren Moore, but people getting carried away about Stoke, they have signed three decent championship players - Afobe, McClean and Ince, not even top players, at least Wolves got Neves and Jota last season.

Stoke may get Chester, looked good at Villa, and i think he would get into our team, however based on our current squad, Ince maybe would get games, not sure Mcclean and Afobe would.

We may lose Rondon, they may lose Butland, its all if and buts but personally i am yet to see the great business stoke have supposedly done.

PS - I am not saying we have done great either, i would still like us to sign 1 or 2 creative players.

And this is what it pretty much comes down to - 'ifs and buts'. Every fan has their own opinion on how ready we are for this long Championship season.

I've got my fingers crossed that over the next few months we would have brought in an Assistant Manager, a new Technical Director, have started the season well, strengthened the squad and got rid of players who do not want to be there.

Fingers crossed...

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« Reply #941 on: July 24, 2018, 09:10:52 PM »
Just a thought guys,counting the last 6 premier matches and the 4 friendlies is it only one loss?
I think it is,so Dave is doing alright,so far so good.

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« Reply #942 on: July 25, 2018, 07:55:43 AM »

Wow. He's no better than McClean.

It is a VERY short term signing, but at 26, he has already had 4 championship seasons where he has scored double figure goal tallys from the wing (including his last 3 at this level), and while I don't have his assist figures to hand, we know he will chip in with a fair few.

He is just about the most solid championship player you can sign. Not a world beater by any stretch, but still he is proven at this level.
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Re: Anything Stoke
« Reply #943 on: August 01, 2018, 07:22:04 PM »
John Percy Tweeted

“Stoke are hopeful of signing Everton defender Ashley Williams on loan before the weekend. Stoke have also made a bid of around £1m for Ipswich left-back Jonas Knudsen”

They are welcome to Williams IMO
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« Reply #944 on: August 01, 2018, 07:24:36 PM »
John Percy Tweeted

“Stoke are hopeful of signing Everton defender Ashley Williams on loan before the weekend. Stoke have also made a bid of around £1m for Ipswich left-back Jonas Knudsen”

They are welcome to Williams IMO

Reported on Sky that Everton want N'Daiye and Williams will be part of the deal.
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« Reply #945 on: August 01, 2018, 07:26:44 PM »
Williams looked shot to bits last season.
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« Reply #946 on: August 01, 2018, 07:35:36 PM »
These lot will really struggle this year.  It's almost an exact replica of Villa's first season down here. Expensive 'Premier League' experienced players on their way down from their peak years.
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« Reply #947 on: August 01, 2018, 07:54:46 PM »
These lot will really struggle this year.  It's almost an exact replica of Villa's first season down here. Expensive 'Premier League' experienced players on their way down from their peak years.
nonsense, Berahino  will fire them to promotion. 😂

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« Reply #948 on: August 06, 2018, 06:57:50 PM »
Well the favourites for immediate promotion back seem to have had an even worse start than us!  :P
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« Reply #949 on: August 12, 2018, 07:03:51 PM »
They're just finding out McClean tries hard but doesn't really do anything football wise.  ;D

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