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Re: Boaz Myhill
« Reply #450 on: July 31, 2018, 03:52:03 PM »
Trust Big Dave and Cutlers decision on this one.

Myhill has been with us 8 years (didnt know was that long) and can only recall Taxigate where he let us down.

On the pitch there was a cup match a couple of years ago and he looked slow and unfit but when he played other than that he usually played well, there was a stage a 3-4 seasons ago when he played regular as Foster was injured and i felt he was unlucky to be dropped when Foster came back, to be fair Foster has been on another level the last couple of seasons.

Maybe he lacks ambition as he was / is good enough to be playing elsewhere but perhaps he is happy where he is but maybe got too comfortable and by releasing him its give him a kick up the backside.

We have done the right thing by signing two younger keepers but neither has anything like the experience of Myhill so that should come in useful, i was told Cutler runs the GK section but also helps Big Dave a lot so if both of those two are happy for him to sign then so be it, i imagine there are cheaper options available but they must see something in Myhill they want to stick around.

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« Reply #451 on: July 31, 2018, 03:53:23 PM »
Rather send Palmer on loan to get experience and let Myhill waste away not getting any game time rather than let 22 yo Palmer go to waste.

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« Reply #452 on: July 31, 2018, 03:54:50 PM »
This seems to be a pretty low-risk signing for me. Palmer needs proper game time, which is something he won't get at Albion. By allowing him to go out and actually play real first team football, then hopefully he'll be able to make that step up. We won't learn if he's ready if he's only playing U23s football.

By having three "Senior" keepers at the club, you can give both players gametime in the U23s while the other is on the bench for the first team, with a view to keeping them both sharp if they're needed.  I would like to think that by being released its gives Myhill that kick that he needs to continue his career. I don't think he'll be allowed to be so laid back this time round - we need all players to be fighting.

Regarding people questioning why Cutler is calling the shots... that should be pretty clear. He's in charge of the goalkeepers, he's the specialist in this department, and so he's ultimately the one that has to answer if that area is deficient.  Let's trust him
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« Reply #453 on: July 31, 2018, 03:57:22 PM »
I Find it quite refreshing that Darren Moore let’s Cutler run the GK dept with a free hand. Obviously a lot of trust between them which is good. Darren Moore showing himself not to be a big control freak and letting others do the things they are better than him at doing.

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« Reply #454 on: July 31, 2018, 04:04:59 PM »
Just want to know his weekly wages for the new contract, hope we don't have a luxury no.3.
I would imagine it's a better deal for the Albion than he was on before. In someway I can see the sense of letting him go based on the terms he had previously and probably resigning on terms that suit our situation better now. Would concern me to see him in the starting line up when required.

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« Reply #455 on: July 31, 2018, 04:06:56 PM »
I would imagine it's a better deal for the Albion than he was on before. In someway I can see the sense of letting him go based on the terms he had previously and probably resigning on terms that suit our situation better now. Would concern me to see him in the starting line up when required.
Sorry - meant it would NOT concern me if he was in the starting line up when needed.

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« Reply #456 on: July 31, 2018, 04:18:56 PM »
Find it bizarre we're so set on getting what must be a pretty well paid 3rd choice goal keeper, seems entirely unnecessary.
Has it been announced as to how much his new contract is worth?
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Re: Boaz Myhill
« Reply #457 on: July 31, 2018, 04:43:00 PM »
welcome back to the albion boaz :)
Exactly, gotta put our 100% faith in Darren Moores decisions.

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Re: Boaz Myhill
« Reply #458 on: July 31, 2018, 04:43:19 PM »
New goalkeeping coach wants and gets. We don't have an obvious senior keeper, his experience will help Bond and Johnstone. He's also cheap, which given he wont be playing very often, if at all means it works out nicely in our favour.

As above.

Johnstone is the obvious senior keeper, had a couple of seasons at this level now playing more games than Myhill in that time including paly off experience last season so i'm sure he'll be fine.
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« Reply #459 on: July 31, 2018, 04:45:06 PM »
Palmer needs games though, the whole point of sending him on loan. Calling him back to sit on our bench is largely pointless in regards his development into hopefully a first choice goal keeper.

I know what the aim of sending people on loan is. I haven't once said not to send him on loan to sit on our bench. I said send him out with an immediate recall clause as the odds are if we call him back it will be to sit on the bench as he has done in the Prem which is not really the same.
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Re: Boaz Myhill
« Reply #460 on: July 31, 2018, 05:02:40 PM »
'Find it bizarre we're so set on getting what must be a pretty well paid 3rd choice goal keeper, seems entirely unnecessary.'

Just as bizarre as we let him go and then resign him again!. Nice work if you can get it.

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« Reply #461 on: July 31, 2018, 05:08:10 PM »
'Find it bizarre we're so set on getting what must be a pretty well paid 3rd choice goal keeper, seems entirely unnecessary.'

Just as bizarre as we let him go and then resign him again!. Nice work if you can get it.
Could it be Baggies plan not to pay him for the summer!  :D

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« Reply #462 on: July 31, 2018, 05:11:09 PM »
Myhill isn’t to bad he had a shocker against Derby but was brilliant at Old Trafford when he was called upon, maybe the last few weeks will make him focus a bit more. I can see the need for 3 keepers as Palmer is dreadful whenever I’ve seen him play and genuinely can’t ever see him playing for us or anyone at this level.... just my opinion of course.

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« Reply #463 on: July 31, 2018, 05:11:47 PM »
This is really poor from the Club. Yes, he may have trained well and clearly DM and NC wanted three keepers but surely there were better options than this.

I agree with others who said that 2 keepers were fine and if we sent Palmer out on loan, just put a recall clause in his contract.

Re-signing Myhill sends out the wrong message. This season is all about starting afresh as much as possible and clearing the deadwood.

Besides, why isn't he pushing for first team football somewhere? Surely a Championship or League One club would have enquired about his services?

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« Reply #464 on: July 31, 2018, 05:13:33 PM »
I know what the aim of sending people on loan is. I haven't once said not to send him on loan to sit on our bench. I said send him out with an immediate recall clause as the odds are if we call him back it will be to sit on the bench as he has done in the Prem which is not really the same.
youve quoted me again but still don’t appear to get what I’m driving at.  Any recall clause is pointless ,leave him out on loan playing for the whole season. Having Boaz means we don’t ever need to recall him to sit on our bench which is of no benefit to him.

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« Reply #465 on: July 31, 2018, 05:14:44 PM »
Who cares really? Its thrid choice. How often does third choices ever play.

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« Reply #466 on: July 31, 2018, 05:17:17 PM »
youve quoted me again but still don’t appear to get what I’m driving at.  Any recall clause is pointless ,leave him out on loan playing for the whole season. Having Boaz means we don’t ever need to recall him to sit on our bench which is of no benefit to him.

I quoted you because you replied to me. I get exactly what you're driving at but don't agree with this signing one bit.
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« Reply #467 on: July 31, 2018, 05:19:56 PM »
I quoted you because you replied to me. I get exactly what you're driving at but don't agree with this signing one bit.
So you believe there is a benefit to Palmer spending any time on our bench at all as opposed to actually playing games?

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« Reply #468 on: July 31, 2018, 05:20:03 PM »
Who cares really? Its thrid choice. How often does third choices ever play.

Completely misses the issue people have with it...

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« Reply #469 on: July 31, 2018, 05:21:00 PM »
So you believe there is a benefit to Palmer spending any time on our bench at all as opposed to actually playing games?

When has he said that?

The reservations are around Myhill, not the signing of a third choice goalkeeper.

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« Reply #470 on: July 31, 2018, 05:22:23 PM »
When has he said that?

The reservations are around Myhill, not the signing of a third choice goalkeeper.
where he suggested sending him on loan with a recall option thus negating the need for a third choice because we’d have Palmer to sit on our bench.

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Re: Boaz Myhill
« Reply #471 on: July 31, 2018, 05:24:23 PM »
I know what the aim of sending people on loan is. I haven't once said not to send him on loan to sit on our bench. I said send him out with an immediate recall clause as the odds are if we call him back it will be to sit on the bench as he has done in the Prem which is not really the same.
I thought that recall clauses were being phased out along with short term loans? I may be wrong but I thought that recent changes meant that the minimum a player could be gone is 6 months without recall (but they can play non first team games for the parent club) unless the loan is mutually terminated?

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« Reply #472 on: July 31, 2018, 05:28:56 PM »
where he suggested sending him on loan with a recall option thus negating the need for a third choice because we’d have Palmer to sit on our bench.

That would be for a game or two, failing that we will have other academy youngsters who can sit on the bench for one, maybe 2 games if needed, we're wasting wages on someone we let go when he was second choice to bring him back as 3rd choice. If the club has so much faith in him they would have kept him regardless.
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« Reply #473 on: July 31, 2018, 05:31:30 PM »
That would be for a game or two, failing that we will have other academy youngsters who can sit on the bench for one, maybe 2 games if needed, we're wasting wages on someone we let go when he was second choice to bring him back as 3rd choice. If the club has so much faith in him they would have kept him regardless.
I think they’ve had to go back to him because they realise how hard it is to get a goalkeeper to sign who knows he’ll likely never play but will need to be ready to. The guy from Sheffield United (Moore?) being a prime example.

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« Reply #474 on: July 31, 2018, 05:36:04 PM »
Common sense really