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Re: Saido Berahino
« Reply #10825 on: March 22, 2020, 08:21:48 PM »
Considering Berahino went about 3 years without scoring I'm disappointed that Zohore's aren't significantly better.

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Re: Saido Berahino
« Reply #10826 on: March 22, 2020, 09:15:36 PM »
Forgive him - yes. I wouldn't have him back. Seems he casued to much trouble and was a rotten apple that spoiled the barrel. You don't go back to that.

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« Reply #10827 on: March 22, 2020, 10:42:47 PM »
Comparing the two on scorebase.com, if it’s reliable of course

This is the league games career comparison

Berahino, age 26, played 133, scored 44, g/g 0.21

Zohore, age 26 (but 6 months younger), played 101, scored 44, g/g 0.24

Thoughts?
Facts be the facts....but I have never looked at Zohore and thought “he’s going to score”...I have on a couple of occasions questioned if he’d scored , after the ball went over the line .
Between the two it’s Saido all day for me.
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« Reply #10828 on: March 24, 2020, 03:45:51 PM »
You know what's crazy about Berahino?

I just finished watching the season review (14/15 I think with Irvine and Pulis) and I'd forgotten just how good he was. It's actually quite sad watching it back because you forget just what he was capable of. Remember these two managers played very negative football, it wasn't like he was getting easy supply such as the strikers under promotion with Mowbray or anything, he was working on scraps.
However, his finishing was so good that it didn't matter, he was a complete natural.

I know he'll never return (and I wouldn't go after him regardless) but as said, it's just sad to see what could of been. He was capable of scoring all kinds of goals and truly had the world at his feet back then, it's crazy to think how it all ended up.
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Re: Saido Berahino
« Reply #10829 on: April 17, 2020, 12:50:35 PM »
Don't often come in here, so apologies for the bump of a quiet thread.

Just for my own two pence worth, I would not be against Berahino coming back.
Obviously not as a headline signing, but a minimal fee, low wages and an understanding that he's here as backup/development, and I'd be golden.

He had (has?) natural goalscoring talent, in teams bereft of support and creativity. I'd like to think that doesn't go away. It's easy to forget how much of a bright light he was, in the dark days of Mel, Irvine and Pulis. It would be a huge comeback story as well. At the age of 26 he still has almost ten years left in him on the pitch.

Almost certain to not happen, but I'm bored and going on flights of fancy in my head.

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« Reply #10830 on: April 17, 2020, 12:54:18 PM »
Don't often come in here, so apologies for the bump of a quiet thread.

Just for my own two pence worth, I would not be against Berahino coming back.
Obviously not as a headline signing, but a minimal fee, low wages and an understanding that he's here as backup/development, and I'd be golden.

He had (has?) natural goalscoring talent, in teams bereft of support and creativity. I'd like to think that doesn't go away. It's easy to forget how much of a bright light he was, in the dark days of Mel, Irvine and Pulis. It would be a huge comeback story as well. At the age of 26 he still has almost ten years left in him on the pitch.

Almost certain to not happen, but I'm bored and going on flights of fancy in my head.

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« Reply #10831 on: April 17, 2020, 01:38:52 PM »
Well I hope his careers plummets until he ends up at Sporting Khalsa or Rushall Olympic.

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« Reply #10832 on: April 17, 2020, 05:00:40 PM »
He had one good season and everyone went overboard about him.
Never got near to replicating his 2014/15 season.
One hit wonder like so may others up and own the leagues.
Only sorry we never maximised the fee we could have got for him.
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« Reply #10833 on: April 18, 2020, 06:33:52 PM »
Would I have him back?
 No.

Has he squandered his career?

 Yes to a point that one of the smaller clubs in Belgium is about his level at 26.

Do I regret losing the player he might have been?

Yes because the 18 months from his break through moment early 2013/2014 to the end of the 14/15 he was the genuine article and as natural finisher as I have ever witnessed in a team which created few chances and finished the season with the dead hand of Pulis at the tiller. That was not to say there wasn't room for improvement in his all round game but there was potential aplenty.

Was he solely responsible for his own down fall?

No not entirely. The car crash of his off field activities and the spat he had with the club around the aborted Spurs transfer was all down to him although we will never know who was whispering what into Berahino's ear in regard of the transfer.

 Yet in terms of development he did absolutely need to get away from the club that was going into the dark winter of Pulisball. By the time he did leave everything had gone to hell. The sharpness wasn't there the time on the sidelines had taken it's toll on his confidence and his off pitch behaviour was if anything worsening.

He then went to Stoke and I am really not sure why they bought him, Hughes had no better idea as to coax the best out of him than Pulis.

Overall I wouldn't make excuses for the many flaws in his character and no matter what he certainly had the capacity to self destruct. Yet if there was ever a talent that needed the right environment to flourish it was Berahino. Sadly for all concerned it wasn't WBA in 2015 (5 years ago it seems like yesterday.)

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Re: Saido Berahino
« Reply #10834 on: May 11, 2020, 03:39:17 PM »
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« Reply #10835 on: May 11, 2020, 03:48:46 PM »
Saido Berahino: I'd jump at chance of West Brom return

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Source: https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2020/05/11/saido-berahino-id-jump-at-chance-of-west-brom-return/
Thankfully this isn’t twitter so you can’t all block me....I’d have him back 😀
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« Reply #10836 on: May 11, 2020, 03:52:50 PM »
Polls at 50/50 at the moment roughly. If he came on a free on vastly reduced wages i'd consider it but doubtful.

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« Reply #10837 on: May 11, 2020, 03:55:56 PM »
He was a good player.


7 years ago he was light years ahead of the 3 'strikers' we've got now.


However, with promotion round the corner we can surely do much better than both him and the 3 incumbents.
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« Reply #10838 on: May 11, 2020, 06:06:19 PM »
He was a good player.


7 years ago he was light years ahead of the 3 'strikers' we've got now.


However, with promotion round the corner we can surely do much better than both him and the 3 incumbents.
I honestly couldn't remember who our 3 incumbents are! This non football world has gone on too long.
Someone tell me who our forwards are
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« Reply #10839 on: May 11, 2020, 06:07:41 PM »
I honestly couldn't remember who our 3 incumbents are! This non football world has gone on too long.
Someone tell me who our forwards are
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« Reply #10840 on: May 11, 2020, 06:12:45 PM »
HRK, Austin and Zohore
Thanks  gazberg, I've either got dementia or they ay nothing special.😁

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Re: Saido Berahino
« Reply #10841 on: May 11, 2020, 06:18:03 PM »
Full interview on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw19V9fj-bk&t=595s

Need to wind back to the beginning, operator error  :(
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« Reply #10842 on: May 11, 2020, 06:24:42 PM »
Full interview on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw19V9fj-bk&t=595s

Need to wind back to the beginning, operator error  :(

Nice one! This could be a very interesting watch.

Am i intrigued to see if he could resurrect his career with us - yes I'd love to see this story end with a triumphant return.

Would I have him back - absolutely not. I'm getting more cynical as I hit my mid-thirties and I would expect him to let us all down.

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« Reply #10843 on: May 11, 2020, 06:30:45 PM »
I expect he would love to come back. The child maintenance payments must be pretty hefty!.

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« Reply #10844 on: May 11, 2020, 07:32:15 PM »
I hope that I never see Berahino at the Hawthorns again, especially as an Albion player. I could never imagine me not celebrating an Albion goal but an exception would be made if that waster ever played in an Albion shirt again. Give me HRK every time over Berahino, HRK works his socks off and gives everything every game. Nobody can say the same for the waster.

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« Reply #10845 on: May 11, 2020, 07:33:56 PM »
Not for me, he had the potential to be a very good player and serve the club who gave him a good start in life. He wasted that chance and did nothing at Stoke but I think another club would take that chance and hope his foolishness has disappeared with maturity. Wish him well wherever he goes.

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« Reply #10846 on: May 11, 2020, 07:45:50 PM »
He was a good player.


7 years ago he was light years ahead of the 3 'strikers' we've got now.


However, with promotion round the corner we can surely do much better than both him and the 3 incumbents.
I think a finisher is a finisher , fitness can be regained , still plenty in that tank.
We aren’t going to realistically change all three
So if we kept one (I’d have HRK) purchased a good one , got Saido on a free ?
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« Reply #10847 on: May 11, 2020, 07:54:26 PM »
Some supporters have short memories. Berahino disrespected the fans big time; I saw his last performances for us and he was a disgrace, showing no effort or desire whatsoever. Remember his ‘f you’ attitude at Northampton in that cup match? He did a very effective job of bridge burning. There are many, many up and coming young players that are deserving of a chance, Berahino blew his.

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« Reply #10848 on: May 11, 2020, 07:59:37 PM »
I think a finisher is a finisher , fitness can be regained , still plenty in that tank.
We aren’t going to realistically change all three
So if we kept one (I’d have HRK) purchased a good one , got Saido on a free ?


Unless the good one was a Rashford/Jesus level striker that would be a disastrous PL forward line.
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« Reply #10849 on: May 11, 2020, 08:01:19 PM »

Unless the good one was a Rashford/Jesus level striker that would be a disastrous PL forward line.
I honestly can’t see us changing all of them
I think the good one would be a Giroud/Ajeti type...if there was anyway we could get Haller, he’d be unbelievable for us .
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