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Re: Valérien Ismaël leaves WBA
« Reply #4725 on: October 25, 2022, 05:47:56 PM »

The next Steve Bruce  ;D

I imagine Besiktas appointing him in the first place probably saved us a fortune in compensation. Sadly, no one else will be daft enough to appoint Bruce and save us paying up the rest of his contract

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« Reply #4726 on: October 25, 2022, 05:50:23 PM »
I imagine Besiktas appointing him in the first place probably saved us a fortune in compensation. Sadly, no one else will be daft enough to appoint Bruce and save us paying up the rest of his contract


I believe Besiktas hiring VI meant we only ended up paying about 250k to get rid of him in the end.

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« Reply #4727 on: October 25, 2022, 06:16:29 PM »
Former West Brom boss Valerien Ismael 'parts ways' with Besiktas after shock defeat
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« Reply #4728 on: October 25, 2022, 06:36:59 PM »
Former West Brom boss Valerien Ismael 'parts ways' with Besiktas after shock defeat

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« Reply #4729 on: October 25, 2022, 08:53:14 PM »

The next Steve Bruce  ;D
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Re: Valérien Ismaël leaves WBA
« Reply #4730 on: October 25, 2022, 09:05:09 PM »
A theme emerging for Val. His style might not be suited to sides who expect to win and might be better for clubs with low expectations.
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« Reply #4731 on: October 25, 2022, 09:06:14 PM »
A theme emerging for Val. His style might not be suited to sides who expect to win and might be better for clubs with low expectations.

Said that while he was here, he's good for a 'plucky underdog' type team

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« Reply #4732 on: October 25, 2022, 10:27:53 PM »
The fans seem happy to see him go. Talking about being grateful that the gods they have prayed to have listened and got.rid of him  ;D

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« Reply #4733 on: October 25, 2022, 11:08:13 PM »
Said that while he was here, he's good for a 'plucky underdog' type team

Sounds perfect for us now then.

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« Reply #4734 on: October 26, 2022, 07:44:42 AM »
Sounds perfect for us now then.

I'd probably agree

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« Reply #4735 on: October 26, 2022, 12:54:58 PM »
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Re: Valérien Ismaël leaves WBA
« Reply #4736 on: October 26, 2022, 01:17:25 PM »
Video of Val's leaving do  8)

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« Reply #4737 on: November 05, 2022, 10:49:16 PM »
A bit late to this but thought I'd give my opinion anyway.

Overall, his sacking isn't surprising. His season there was shorter than his time with us but had similarities. After a brilliant start, he started to come undone.

I believe his football isn't sustainable beyond 10 games. This is because it uses too much energy and running which isn't realistic over a full season. Having said this, I actually think it would be perfect as an international manager.

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« Reply #4738 on: November 18, 2022, 09:45:10 AM »
A bit late to this but thought I'd give my opinion anyway.

Overall, his sacking isn't surprising. His season there was shorter than his time with us but had similarities. After a brilliant start, he started to come undone.

I believe his football isn't sustainable beyond 10 games. This is because it uses too much energy and running which isn't realistic over a full season. Having said this, I actually think it would be perfect as an international manager.



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« Reply #4739 on: January 18, 2023, 08:03:48 AM »
strong rumours he will be cardiffs head coach
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« Reply #4740 on: January 18, 2023, 08:09:53 AM »
strong rumours he will be cardiffs head coach

Probably would suit him. Seems to be an underdog type manager.

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« Reply #4741 on: January 20, 2023, 05:37:11 PM »
strong rumours he will be cardiffs head coach
Cardiff have been trying to convert to a more footballing style this season after the Warnock/McCarthy years. They brought in at least 10 new signings in the summer with that in mind including Robinson, Sawyers and Kipre on loan.
It could well happen but I can't see how it fits in with this footballing aim....and I can guess what Robinson and especially Sawyers are thinking at the mention of Ismael.
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« Reply #4742 on: January 22, 2023, 08:13:25 PM »
I hope this happens and he buys mowatt or at least loans him for the rest season before we free him.

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« Reply #4743 on: February 16, 2023, 11:57:57 AM »
Jordan Hugill has done an interview where he talks about his spell here briefly and mentions Ismael.

Says felt like he wasn't VI 1st choice which he understands but went to Ismael's office one day to ask why he wasnt playing and Valerian assured him that there will be a time and place for him to play.

Hugill asked when that is and VI responded " when the weather is cold and the pitch is 5hit".  😂😂

Hugill said I lost all confidence from that point on.

Kind of funny but also terrible man management in equal measure.

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« Reply #4744 on: August 06, 2023, 11:51:49 AM »
Good win for big Val yesterday. Similar stats to when he was here but Watford actually finished their chances. I think he’ll be a great appointment for them, assuming their fans don’t start booing the team off if they’re drawing 0-0 at half time.

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Re: Valérien Ismaël leaves WBA
« Reply #4745 on: August 06, 2023, 11:52:57 AM »
He starts well everywhere, can he keep it up longer than 6 months though at a team that isn't an underdog type team.

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« Reply #4746 on: August 06, 2023, 11:55:54 AM »
One of the big criticisms of him when he was here was that his teams don't know what to do when they have the ball. From memory I think they had more than 70% possession yesterday and they definitely knew what to do with it. Wondering where Watford have a squad more suited to him and his methods than we had. Time will tell.
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« Reply #4747 on: August 06, 2023, 10:56:55 PM »
I always felt Ismael's system lives or dies on his front 3. It's responsible for both chance creation and the goals.

It might be Watford have that at the club. They do tend to have decent forward options on loan from Udinese or picked up in the high turn over way they do things.

He did however line up in a 433 yesterday if Google is to be believed. Maybe he has adapted his approach from his rigid 3 man defence/ wing backs / 2 man central midfield / 3 man forward line.
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« Reply #4748 on: August 08, 2023, 03:30:27 PM »
they had 24 shots in the game with 13 on target.

however i think you need to look at the opposition, QPR are on a massive slide under Ainsworth