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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #425 on: June 26, 2020, 11:25:20 PM »
HRK had a good season, are you for real?  He has scored a measly 10 goals in a team top of the league.  Bob Taylor scored 37 in 1992/93 in a team finishing 4th.  That's what I'd call a good season!
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« Reply #426 on: June 26, 2020, 11:29:51 PM »
Great ..well done

Yep so poor (along with Zohore and seemingly disinterested Austin) that we look better with no recognised striker on the pitch.

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« Reply #427 on: June 26, 2020, 11:33:17 PM »
Agreed Sawyers, Livermore, Phillips were poor tonight but HRK is worse.  He hardly ever scores in a eam that is still op, it's putting pressure on others.  Rather like an opening batsman that always gets out before 20, the others think christ I need to get the runs to bail the team out!
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« Reply #428 on: June 26, 2020, 11:34:12 PM »
Overall Austin has been nothing like we hoped for apart from the odd flash here and there , that said I'd be starting him in the next game as HRK has lost his form ( he's done the lone role well this season ) and Zohare hasn't done much at all .
You have to ask why we lumped so much in fees and wages on Austin if he doesnt really suit the way Bilic plays.
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« Reply #429 on: June 26, 2020, 11:40:25 PM »
Overall Austin has been nothing like we hoped for apart from the odd flash here and there , that said I'd be starting him in the next game as HRK has lost his form ( he's done the lone role well this season ) and Zohare hasn't done much at all .
You have to ask why we lumped so much in fees and wages on Austin if he doesnt really suit the way Bilic plays.
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« Reply #430 on: June 27, 2020, 10:25:24 AM »
The people that scouted them are to be blame to be fair.

Austin has disappointed a little but can still do a job at this level but Zohore was just a 'no-no and never should have been' signing. Everyone said we should give him a chance, historical evidence and data doesn't lie.

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« Reply #431 on: June 27, 2020, 10:53:24 AM »
I don't see any of our forwards getting us over the line it'll be the hopefully increased performance from players who excelled earlier in the season like Diangana and Pereira.
Austin was poor against Blues.

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« Reply #432 on: June 27, 2020, 12:41:52 PM »
For me Austin probably is the best of a bad bunch. I would be starting him and use Kanu for what he is good for coming of the bench. Austin is our most experienced striker and I think we need to look to that

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« Reply #433 on: June 27, 2020, 01:23:55 PM »
Didn't want him on a permanent deal and clearly he is not fit enough.

Brewster wouldn't have cost millions and we should have got him instead of letting him go to Swansea.

If, big if, we go up we should try and get him on loan.

I would definitely try to offload the current strikers we have (easier said than done).

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« Reply #434 on: June 27, 2020, 10:57:08 PM »
I don't see any of our forwards getting us over the line it'll be the hopefully increased performance from players who excelled earlier in the season like Diangana and Pereira.
Austin was poor against Blues.

Austin is just rusty.  He has a nose for a goal, always will have.  Only natural finisher in the club but he won’t score from the bench

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« Reply #435 on: June 28, 2020, 08:15:34 AM »
Didn't want him on a permanent deal and clearly he is not fit enough.

Brewster wouldn't have cost millions and we should have got him instead of letting him go to Swansea.

If, big if, we go up we should try and get him on loan.

I would definitely try to offload the current strikers we have (easier said than done).

I've had this conversation with friends none of

HRK Austin or Zohore are anywhere near good enough for the premier league but we will need to recruit for other areas aswell as up front should we go up  I can't see us offloading all our strikers and replacing all three oh and Burke has to return aswell.

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« Reply #436 on: June 28, 2020, 12:36:17 PM »
I've seen a lot of shouts lately that the team is begging for Austin to come back in, I think form absolutely proves this season that Robson-Kanu is the best of the three but he has not had a good return from the break. None of them are goalscorers, anymore in Austin's case. I had to have a look at the scoring stats, they are all grateful for a few penalties, including Austin. Almost a penalty at Wigan, he did take that very well. Then you have the magical afternoon at Blues where he really got us out of jail. That is literally his saving grace this season.

HRK has had more game time, deservedly so, as mentioned not for his goal scoring but for his affect on the team. Austin has had enough chances and on the whole has proved very ineffective, a lot of games you really don't notice him and the 60 minute mark comes along and you just think another disappointing performance when he is subbed off. Like the others he just doesn't seem to anticipate much and get in there on the several crosses we produce (sometimes good ones). There have definitely been a few big misses as well this season where you feel his goalscoring prowess would get the right result, I'm sure there was a stat I spotted where it was 11 big chances missed, I can't remember the source.

The above points going against him as well, you really question what he brings to the team, his legs are clearly gone, for Zohore's criticism, he has a better engine and more of a presence when he plays the role. Due to the form of HRK a change is needed and it's pretty much desperation that Austin can come in and produce, but yes I would give him one last go and hope more so the players around him can step up. It would be great for him to rediscover some form and fire us over the line but I do think it's more of a case of mixing it up and just trying something else. 

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« Reply #437 on: June 28, 2020, 01:12:09 PM »
I've seen a lot of shouts lately that the team is begging for Austin to come back in, I think form absolutely proves this season that Robson-Kanu is the best of the three but he has not had a good return from the break. None of them are goalscorers, anymore in Austin's case. I had to have a look at the scoring stats, they are all grateful for a few penalties, including Austin. Almost a penalty at Wigan, he did take that very well. Then you have the magical afternoon at Blues where he really got us out of jail. That is literally his saving grace this season.

HRK has had more game time, deservedly so, as mentioned not for his goal scoring but for his affect on the team. Austin has had enough chances and on the whole has proved very ineffective, a lot of games you really don't notice him and the 60 minute mark comes along and you just think another disappointing performance when he is subbed off. Like the others he just doesn't seem to anticipate much and get in there on the several crosses we produce (sometimes good ones). There have definitely been a few big misses as well this season where you feel his goalscoring prowess would get the right result, I'm sure there was a stat I spotted where it was 11 big chances missed, I can't remember the source.

The above points going against him as well, you really question what he brings to the team, his legs are clearly gone, for Zohore's criticism, he has a better engine and more of a presence when he plays the role. Due to the form of HRK a change is needed and it's pretty much desperation that Austin can come in and produce, but yes I would give him one last go and hope more so the players around him can step up. It would be great for him to rediscover some form and fire us over the line but I do think it's more of a case of mixing it up and just trying something else. 

Pretty much agree with this. Pre lockdown we were at the stage of Austin being useful in the occasional 20 minute cameo but not as a starter. A three month lay-off won't have improved matters. In short Bilic could not have bought Austin on at half time he hasn't got a half in his legs
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« Reply #438 on: June 28, 2020, 01:16:49 PM »
Just think this is utter rubbish (sorry to be so blunt). He's a pro footballer of course he's got enough minutes in his legs, so has Barry, so has Brunt.

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« Reply #439 on: June 28, 2020, 02:47:18 PM »
Robson Kanu: 2121 mins / 23.57 matches / 10 goals / 1 goal every 212 mins
Austin: 1143 mins / 12.70 matches / 8 goals / 1 goal every 143 mins
Zohore: 651 mins / 7.23 matches / 3 goals / 1 goal every 217 mins

The above stats are for league matches only.  Is HRK really the best option, or is it down to the manager's choice (for primarily fitness purposes) that he's chosen over Austin?  HRK's strike rate is comparable to Zohore. 

I've heard people say HRK has performed well this season.  For me he's been average at best.

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« Reply #440 on: June 28, 2020, 03:27:21 PM »
Robson Kanu: 2121 mins / 23.57 matches / 10 goals / 1 goal every 212 mins
Austin: 1143 mins / 12.70 matches / 8 goals / 1 goal every 143 mins
Zohore: 651 mins / 7.23 matches / 3 goals / 1 goal every 217 mins

The above stats are for league matches only.  Is HRK really the best option, or is it down to the manager's choice (for primarily fitness purposes) that he's chosen over Austin?  HRK's strike rate is comparable to Zohore. 

I've heard people say HRK has performed well this season.  For me he's been average at best.

Every starting striker at every other championship club this past week is an improvement on Kanu and Zohore.
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« Reply #441 on: June 28, 2020, 03:31:35 PM »
Robson Kanu: 2121 mins / 23.57 matches / 10 goals / 1 goal every 212 mins
Austin: 1143 mins / 12.70 matches / 8 goals / 1 goal every 143 mins
Zohore: 651 mins / 7.23 matches / 3 goals / 1 goal every 217 mins

The above stats are for league matches only.  Is HRK really the best option, or is it down to the manager's choice (for primarily fitness purposes) that he's chosen over Austin?  HRK's strike rate is comparable to Zohore. 

I've heard people say HRK has performed well this season.  For me he's been average at best.

A good post. Also worth mentioning in the context of some previous comments Austin is younger than Robson-Kanu. (if wikipedia is to be believed)
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« Reply #442 on: June 28, 2020, 04:26:34 PM »
Just think this is utter rubbish (sorry to be so blunt). He's a pro footballer of course he's got enough minutes in his legs, so has Barry, so has Brunt.

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Not sure it's legs with Austin, just don't think he's committed to the cause, CA plays for CA from what I've seen
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« Reply #443 on: June 28, 2020, 04:35:43 PM »
Not sure it's legs with Austin, just don't think he's committed to the cause, CA plays for CA from what I've seen

Did you see the cup game at Charlton? He was flat out and ran his socks off and never stopped trying. This in a game where i think the entire team was changed. He took that seriously and chased lost causes.

I disagree completely when people say he doesn't try.

If it's for himself it doesn't really matter - if yields results (which it has) and benefits the team (which it has) then I'm all for Austin having more of a chance.

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« Reply #444 on: June 28, 2020, 04:38:14 PM »
Not sure it's legs with Austin, just don't think he's committed to the cause, CA plays for CA from what I've seen

Absolute garbage.  The man is frustrated by his own body.  Pace and instinct gone but not the heart.  Shame.

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« Reply #445 on: June 28, 2020, 04:44:49 PM »
Did you see the cup game at Charlton? He was flat out and ran his socks off and never stopped trying. This in a game where i think the entire team was changed. He took that seriously and chased lost causes.

I disagree completely when people say he doesn't try.

If it's for himself it doesn't really matter - if yields results (which it has) and benefits the team (which it has) then I'm all for Austin having more of a chance.

It's all about opinions, just doesn't do it for me.
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« Reply #446 on: June 28, 2020, 04:50:18 PM »
Absolute garbage.  The man is frustrated by his own body.  Pace and instinct gone but not the heart.  Shame.

Absolutely no need for the insults.

Quite happy for you to have a different opinion.
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« Reply #447 on: June 28, 2020, 04:50:39 PM »
Not sure it's legs with Austin, just don't think he's committed to the cause, CA plays for CA from what I've seen

Geezer always tried his hardest he's just slow but i've never doubted his effort.

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« Reply #448 on: June 28, 2020, 04:50:54 PM »
Has to be involved on Wednesday. We tried the other 2 central strikers and apart from a short spell 2nd half neither looked good enough. Make the chances and I think Charlie is much more likely to score
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« Reply #449 on: June 28, 2020, 04:55:59 PM »
Amazing how many would play a knackered Charlie Austin, but not Brunt or Barry
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