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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #175 on: October 26, 2019, 07:21:05 PM »
How much longer do you wait for Austin to come good?  It would be interesting to note how many Gayle had notched by league match 14?  It's putting strain on the rest of the team with him not scoring and this is from a defensive and attacking perspective.  We can't carry this on indefinitely.  Obviously HRK is better with 20 min cameos and he's a good option to do that particular role.

I noted we signed a 19 year old French striker from Le Havre's academy recently, maybe he's worth a go?  You just never know.  If he's quick then you have the option of going direct occasionally and therefore mixing the play.  We can't even do that with Austin as he doesn't outpace defenders.

No idea when Zohore is fit again?  The jury is still out on him too.

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« Reply #176 on: October 26, 2019, 08:05:01 PM »
How much longer do you wait for Austin to come good?  It would be interesting to note how many Gayle had notched by league match 14?  It's putting strain on the rest of the team with him not scoring and this is from a defensive and attacking perspective.  We can't carry this on indefinitely.  Obviously HRK is better with 20 min cameos and he's a good option to do that particular role.

I noted we signed a 19 year old French striker from Le Havre's academy recently, maybe he's worth a go?  You just never know.  If he's quick then you have the option of going direct occasionally and therefore mixing the play.  We can't even do that with Austin as he doesn't outpace defenders.

No idea when Zohore is fit again?  The jury is still out on him too.

Very valid points made. I have reached a point where I cannot see him coming good. It’s not just lack of goals either. He’s off the pace in most games, has a heavy touch too. Could go on but don’t like running our own down too much. When Zohore is fit he must play in my view. He’s had nothing like the opportunity Charlie has had. In January we must recruit a striker too.

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« Reply #177 on: October 26, 2019, 08:10:50 PM »
Very valid points made. I have reached a point where I cannot see him coming good. It’s not just lack of goals either. He’s off the pace in most games, has a heavy touch too. Could go on but don’t like running our own down too much. When Zohore is fit he must play in my view. He’s had nothing like the opportunity Charlie has had. In January we must recruit a striker too.

Austin was blowing after 30 minutes like he'd been out last night and had 15 pints. Nowhere near good enough and a hindrance. We actually looked better with ten men as after the sending off he was subbed! He looks like a retired footballer wheeled back out into a competitive match. Such a disappointing signing. Him and Zohore have both flopped. A quality striker has to be focus in January. Until then all we can do is hobble on and rotate.

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« Reply #178 on: October 26, 2019, 08:15:59 PM »
Austin was blowing after 30 minutes like he'd been out last night and had 15 pints. Nowhere near good enough and a hindrance. We actually looked better with ten men as after the sending off he was subbed! He looks like a retired footballer wheeled back out into a competitive match. Such a disappointing signing. Him and Zohore have both flopped. A quality striker has to be focus in January. Until then all we can do is hobble on and rotate.
I've read all your posts about Austin and some of them are are really over the top (that's putting it mildly) that's your opinion and I ain't got a problem with that. But can i just ask you why you hate him so much? Have you ever met him or as he ever done something to harm you? Just wondering.

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« Reply #179 on: October 26, 2019, 08:22:56 PM »
Always admired Austin , I'm desperate to be wrong but he looks blown now . Few flicks here and there isn't enough .
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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #180 on: October 26, 2019, 08:35:37 PM »
Sadly looks like he's lost the magic now and it just hasn't clicked for him with us.

Problem is, HRK is only good from the bench, can't do a full game, Zohore injured. That leaves us with kids we havent tried yet as potential competition (Willock, Diaby, Soule??). Hence why he still gets in the team no problem.
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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #181 on: October 26, 2019, 08:41:24 PM »
How much longer do you wait for Austin to come good?  It would be interesting to note how many Gayle had notched by league match 14?  It's putting strain on the rest of the team with him not scoring and this is from a defensive and attacking perspective.  We can't carry this on indefinitely.  Obviously HRK is better with 20 min cameos and he's a good option to do that particular role.

I noted we signed a 19 year old French striker from Le Havre's academy recently, maybe he's worth a go?  You just never know.  If he's quick then you have the option of going direct occasionally and therefore mixing the play.  We can't even do that with Austin as he doesn't outpace defenders.

No idea when Zohore is fit again?  The jury is still out on him too.

I've just looked it up. At this stage last season Gayle and J Rod had 8 goals each. I'm afraid it looks like Austin is our Ross McCormack

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« Reply #182 on: October 26, 2019, 11:14:27 PM »
I've read all your posts about Austin and some of them are are really over the top (that's putting it mildly) that's your opinion and I ain't got a problem with that. But can i just ask you why you hate him so much? Have you ever met him or as he ever done something to harm you? Just wondering.

I don’t hate him at all. It’s obvious he’s past it, which is a big problem. First few games you can put it down to a lack of fitness but by now it’s a clear as day that his legs have gone and that we’ve signed another Lambert.

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« Reply #183 on: October 26, 2019, 11:25:36 PM »
Another totally inept performance. Trouble is who else have we got? And I just can’t see the Gayle thing happening
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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #184 on: October 26, 2019, 11:46:12 PM »
I'm not writing him off yet but one game per week looks enough for Charlie.

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« Reply #185 on: October 27, 2019, 12:31:23 PM »
I spent a period yesterday concentrating on Charlie and he must be really easy to defend against, his movement across the line, closing Down space isn’t good enough, he doesn’t have the pace to get away from his marker, trickery and speedy reaction isn’t his game, so I find it very difficult to make a case for him
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« Reply #186 on: October 27, 2019, 12:43:12 PM »
With a striker that's not got the pace to outrun defenders etc anymore, as long as theyve got a good finish on them they can still score plenty. But they NEED to be sitting in the centre of attack at all times, putting themself at the end of everything that goes in the box and not diverging to the wings and midfield constantly, which CA is doing currently.

Austin can still bag enough goals to get us through to Jan if he plays more in the style of Chris Wood or Grant Holt (in his day). He just needs to sit in the striker position instead of trying to get involved with the build up and then put them away when he gets the chance. If this doesnt work then it's time for Zohore or HRK to get a run.

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« Reply #187 on: October 27, 2019, 08:26:52 PM »
I'm giving Austin the benefit of the doubt for the timebeing based on him being a proven goalscorer. At Swindon, Burnley and QPR he was scoring roughly once every 2 games.
From what I remember of him at QPR, he was an instinctive scorer, fox in the box if you like, who anticipates chances and was clinical enough to get on the end of them. That's what he's got to do here. Maybe, he never had a great deal of pace so its pointless expecting him to perform sprints like Odemwingie. 
We could use Zohore or HRK as our main striker, but I'm not aware that either of them ever were prolific goalscorers.
The centre forward slot is one obvious area in the team where there is alot of room for improvement. If we can get Gayle in, it should be a no-brainer, but if not, Austin is going to have to start delivering soon.   
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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #188 on: October 27, 2019, 08:35:45 PM »
The simple fact is we need another striker in January who is better than what we already have.
I've said it before if we get promoted it will be in spite of our strike force not because of them
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« Reply #189 on: October 28, 2019, 08:26:01 AM »
We wanted a proven forward and Austin was available - but he has never been a lone front man, he is best as a forager in a 442, we need to give Zohore a go now, assuming he's fit.

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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #190 on: October 28, 2019, 08:42:54 AM »
shame we didn't keep Rodgers now - think he'd be playing regularly in this side. Austin seems to be going the same way as **** Lambert. shame as he's very likeable.

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« Reply #191 on: October 28, 2019, 09:08:42 AM »
i just checked back over the first pages of this thread when he first signed - majority were very sceptical about Austin then with just a few optimists in favour.

Mind you that footballing genius Jacko did post on there about how we were all wrong and how Austin was nothing like all the other over the hill  failures that we had signed in the past

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« Reply #192 on: October 28, 2019, 09:22:00 AM »
i just checked back over the first pages of this thread when he first signed - majority were very sceptical about Austin then with just a few optimists in favour.

Mind you that footballing genius Jacko did post on there about how we were all wrong and how Austin was nothing like all the other over the hill  failures that we had signed in the past


You do realise the first page of this thread is visible to all of us? So in no particular order just from page 1 of the thread, Atomic, Fritzl Palace, tommcneil, wbarenno, Foster#1, overseas baggie, Baggies, and Pie thought he would be a decent to great signing.


Additionally, he's only started 9 games. Bit early to write him off.


As to your input on page 2 of the thread you were shot down by several members, not just me, after comparing him to Andy Townsend among others. Jog on mate, if I had a microphone I'd now drop it...
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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #193 on: October 28, 2019, 09:28:28 AM »

You do realise the first page of this thread is visible to all of us? So in no particular order just from page 1 of the thread, Atomic, Fritzl Palace, tommcneil, wbarenno, Foster#1, overseas baggie, Baggies, and Pie thought he would be a decent to great signing.


Additionally, he's only started 9 games. Bit early to write him off.


As to your input on page 2 of the thread you were shot down by several members, not just me, after comparing him to Andy Townsend among others. Jog on mate, if I had a microphone I'd now drop it...

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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #194 on: October 28, 2019, 09:34:17 AM »

You do realise the first page of this thread is visible to all of us? So in no particular order just from page 1 of the thread, Atomic, Fritzl Palace, tommcneil, wbarenno, Foster#1, overseas baggie, Baggies, and Pie thought he would be a decent to great signing.


Additionally, he's only started 9 games. Bit early to write him off.


As to your input on page 2 of the thread you were shot down by several members, not just me, after comparing him to Andy Townsend among others. Jog on mate, if I had a microphone I'd now drop it...

Must be of solace to you knowing that you are in such exalted company and still wrong  ;D
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« Reply #195 on: October 28, 2019, 10:10:58 AM »
Think the sports science lads should sort out his diet as he still looks like he's just come back from summer hols. Good player in there who needs to work harder on his fitness Bilic didn't do him any favours by stating he was his number one striker.

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« Reply #196 on: October 28, 2019, 10:26:19 AM »

You do realise the first page of this thread is visible to all of us? So in no particular order just from page 1 of the thread, Atomic, Fritzl Palace, tommcneil, wbarenno, Foster#1, overseas baggie, Baggies, and Pie thought he would be a decent to great signing.


Additionally, he's only started 9 games. Bit early to write him off.


As to your input on page 2 of the thread you were shot down by several members, not just me, after comparing him to Andy Townsend among others. Jog on mate, if I had a microphone I'd now drop it...
You can add me to that list, I too thought he would be a good signing. Unfortunately, I just don't see it now, although that's not because he's over the hill or just after a pay day, but rather that he doesn't have the attributes that suit our system or personnel.
For me we need a more mobile striker, who's happier with the ball at his feet, that can integrate better with Perreira, Diangana, Phillips, Krov etc. Even then, I wouldn't expect 20+ goals as the way they play and create space for each other, the goals will always be shared out more evenly.

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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #197 on: October 28, 2019, 11:00:17 AM »

You do realise the first page of this thread is visible to all of us? So in no particular order just from page 1 of the thread, Atomic, Fritzl Palace, tommcneil, wbarenno, Foster#1, overseas baggie, Baggies, and Pie thought he would be a decent to great signing.


Additionally, he's only started 9 games. Bit early to write him off.


As to your input on page 2 of the thread you were shot down by several members, not just me, after comparing him to Andy Townsend among others. Jog on mate, if I had a microphone I'd now drop it...

1. After seeing him play, you still want to shoot my view down?
2. 'Mike Drop" ???  How old are you?
3. Who would you compare Austin to then? 
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« Reply #198 on: October 28, 2019, 11:07:07 AM »
1. After seeing him play, you still want to shoot my view down?
2. 'Mike Drop" ???  How old are you?
3. Who would you compare Austin to then? 
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Re: Charlie Austin
« Reply #199 on: October 28, 2019, 12:20:34 PM »
Still doesn’t seem fit or have that match sharpness needed

I wonder how much training he does in the week, in the sense that due to injuries is he on a different training programme to protect him as such in training To keep him fit on a Sat, and thats why he never looks fit during games

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