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« Reply #875 on: June 14, 2020, 05:04:41 PM »
Also if we are winning comfortable I expect him to bring some kids on
I don’t think so
Out of interest which kids, because for me the squad is too strong to have kids on it?
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« Reply #876 on: June 14, 2020, 09:45:38 PM »
Also if we are winning comfortable I expect him to bring some kids on

I'd like to see Tulloch get some minutes but only IF / WHEN he has signed a new contract.

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« Reply #877 on: June 15, 2020, 12:32:42 AM »
If Bilic is to persist with 4-3-3 then I'd imagine the front three plus either 1 midfielder and 1 defender, or 2 midfielders would get substituted

I would also guess that Bilic may keep one sub in reserve until the final few minutes as the likelihood of muscle injuries is going to be higher.
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« Reply #878 on: June 15, 2020, 01:07:37 AM »
I think a lot will depend on the individual game state. I also don't think he will use all 5 as a matter of course. The danger is that as we have seen in friendlies with a lot of substitutions a teams rhythm can is disrupted by a large number of changes.
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« Reply #879 on: June 15, 2020, 03:20:51 AM »
Have I read you can still only make three interventions? ie. to get the 5 subs on if you had already made 2 separate changes the next (last) would have to be a triple substitution?
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« Reply #880 on: June 15, 2020, 12:56:43 PM »
Have I read you can still only make three interventions? ie. to get the 5 subs on if you had already made 2 separate changes the next (last) would have to be a triple substitution?

That's interesting if correct. I have not seen this, how about anyone else??

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« Reply #881 on: June 15, 2020, 01:50:16 PM »
Have I read you can still only make three interventions? ie. to get the 5 subs on if you had already made 2 separate changes the next (last) would have to be a triple substitution?

Thats exactly how ive seen the way it will be implemented.

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« Reply #882 on: June 15, 2020, 01:55:43 PM »
Thats exactly how ive seen the way it will be implemented.

Glad I haven't imagined it!!

So for clarity to utilise all 5 subs, you can either...

Make 1 quintuple substitution.
Make 1 quadruple and 1 single substitution.
Make 1 triple and 2 single substitutions.
Make 1 triple and 1 double substitution.
OR make 2 double and 1 single substitution.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2020, 02:02:30 PM by TheJacko2000 »
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« Reply #883 on: June 15, 2020, 01:57:03 PM »
Glad I haven't imagined it!!

So for clarity to utilise all 5 subs, you can either...

Make 1 quintuple substitution.
Make 1 quadruple and 1 single substitution.
Make 1 triple and 2 single substitutions.
OR make 2 double and 1 single substitution.
or a triple and a double.... pedantry A level
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« Reply #884 on: June 15, 2020, 02:01:54 PM »
or a triple and a double.... pedantry A level

knew I'd miss one. Edited!!
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« Reply #885 on: June 15, 2020, 02:05:16 PM »
Glad I haven't imagined it!!

So for clarity to utilise all 5 subs, you can either...

Make 1 quintuple substitution.
Make 1 quadruple and 1 single substitution.
Make 1 triple and 2 single substitutions.
Make 1 triple and 1 double substitution.
OR make 2 double and 1 single substitution.
Yep basically its all 5 subs across 3 substitions only, in whichever way you wish to bring them on.

 
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« Reply #886 on: June 15, 2020, 02:57:14 PM »
I reckon that most likely scheme will be one single, one double and one held in reserve - or until 80 mins - in case somebody's legs pack in.
Triples and upwards would be too disruptive (except if Murinho is your manager)
In any circumstance, the manager will be sweating on player fitness.
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« Reply #887 on: June 15, 2020, 03:40:45 PM »
Since lads have been back I'm right in saying that 60 minutes is all the players have got into their legs with these friendlies, that being said I'd expect multiple changes around the 60 min mark. Once up to speed then individual game will dictate changes.
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« Reply #888 on: June 15, 2020, 04:05:52 PM »
Since lads have been back I'm right in saying that 60 minutes is all the players have got into their legs with these friendlies, that being said I'd expect multiple changes around the 60 min mark. Once up to speed then individual game will dictate changes.
both Utd games were 90mins each, so they have all done match length at least once.

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« Reply #889 on: June 15, 2020, 05:47:13 PM »
Yep basically its all 5 subs across 3 substitions only, in whichever way you wish to bring them on.
I assume it’s to stop continual substitutions at the end of the game to run the clock down aka time wasting !
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« Reply #890 on: June 15, 2020, 06:14:19 PM »
We need to go for the jugular if / when  the opportunity presents itself in games.

A comfortable lead makes it easier to utilise 5 subs without disrupting the team and shape too much while it matters, and we can keep the players fresh for a hectic schedule and avoid the higher level of muscle injuries they are expecting.
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« Reply #891 on: June 15, 2020, 06:40:15 PM »
I'd like to see Tulloch get some minutes but only IF / WHEN he has signed a new contract.
I don’t get hung up on contacts , I’d play him regardless ....once we have promotion confirmed, if the gaffer wants to rest others.
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« Reply #892 on: June 15, 2020, 06:50:51 PM »
It doesn't matter how many resources you have.
If you don't know how to use them, they will never be enough.
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« Reply #893 on: June 15, 2020, 10:30:31 PM »
Sounds like he is using SJ,s cock up as a warning to the players about sloppiness because it feels like a freindly. If course there could have been numerous other incidents tht we are not aware of.I

It's a good point that look could be prone to this and hence it may present opportunities
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Re: Slaven Bilic
« Reply #894 on: June 15, 2020, 10:39:11 PM »
Glad I haven't imagined it!!

So for clarity to utilise all 5 subs, you can either...

Make 1 quintuple substitution.
Make 1 quadruple and 1 single substitution.
Make 1 triple and 2 single substitutions.
Make 1 triple and 1 double substitution.
OR make 2 double and 1 single substitution.


I remember reading somewhere that you can make any changes during half time and it doesn't count as one of the three opportunities.
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« Reply #895 on: June 15, 2020, 11:24:00 PM »

I remember reading somewhere that you can make any changes during half time and it doesn't count as one of the three opportunities.

Excellent info... no I'm not doing all the permutations in that scenario!!  ;D
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« Reply #896 on: June 16, 2020, 10:21:47 PM »
Does he only have 1 year left on his contract if so we should probably be looking to get him a longer deal
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« Reply #897 on: June 16, 2020, 10:25:54 PM »
Does he only have 1 year left on his contract if so we should probably be looking to get him a longer deal

No. Reward him upon promotion. Nothing stupid like an 8 year deal.
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« Reply #898 on: June 17, 2020, 09:03:41 AM »
No. Reward him upon promotion. Nothing stupid like an 8 year deal.

Agreed, no dumb deals, that is the road to ruin, a rolling year or rolling 2 year max.
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« Reply #899 on: June 17, 2020, 09:08:47 AM »
Agreed, no dumb deals, that is the road to ruin, a rolling year or rolling 2 year max.

A contract has to be attractive for both parties.  Why would he accept a rolling 1 or 2 year deal?