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Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« on: March 18, 2019, 03:28:41 PM »
Saw him at Brighton and was not that impressed but yesterdays goal was all about speed and good feet.

Well done Shan for playing him.

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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2019, 04:09:35 PM »
Was played totally out of position in centre midfield at Brighton in fairness. Another Moore/Jones master stroke

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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2019, 04:12:19 PM »
Great goal for Exeter in the play off final last season too.
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2019, 04:55:03 PM »
If his performance on Saturday was indicative of his talent, he should have been more regularly involved on the pitch
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2019, 05:07:16 PM »
People call him a youngster but he is 20 or 21. Hope, Bennett, Statham, Hartford, Robertson etc were thrown in at 16 or 17 against the likes of Man United.
I hope he is a talent, but sometimes we get players who only spark every 6 or 7 games.

Fingers crossed for the lad.

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2019, 05:52:35 PM »
wasnt some saying the same about Harper a few weeks back
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2019, 06:24:45 PM »
People call him a youngster but he is 20 or 21. Hope, Bennett, Statham, Hartford, Robertson etc were thrown in at 16 or 17 against the likes of Man United.
I hope he is a talent, but sometimes we get players who only spark every 6 or 7 games.
Fingers crossed for the lad.
Just turned 21 in February.
I think the days of throwing 16 year olds into the Premier League are long gone, unless the player is truly exceptional (e.g. Rooney).
Young players need careful handling, as Scotty Darton would no doubt testify.
As you will remember Statham played a stormer and scored on his debut and was rested for the next seven games.
Let's hope he is half as good as another kid from Dudley called Edwards.


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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2019, 09:56:11 PM »
I've only seen the clips of Saturday's game and saw him when he came on against Reading. Certainly seems to have something about him. I liked the way he simply slotted the ball to Hegazi in space after doing a couple of twists and turns on the left...showed some awareness and game sense. It proved a good selection by Shan who must know him well and a kick up the backside for Murphy also.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2019, 10:25:57 PM »
Saw him at Brighton and was not that impressed but yesterdays goal was all about speed and good feet.

Well done Shan for playing him.
Had to play out of position at CM that day , he did well I thought.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2019, 01:21:23 PM »
I thought he was excellent on Saturday.  Had a ten minute spell after his goal where he looked on top of the world.

I was surprised to see him involved but it paid off. I hope we see more of him.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2019, 01:28:37 PM »
wasnt some saying the same about Harper a few weeks back

..and Leko two seasons ago.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2019, 01:33:21 PM »
..and Leko two seasons ago.


Leko is nowhere near as good as Edwards.

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2019, 02:22:15 PM »
He seems to have the pace and tricky like Leko, but where he differs is he seems to have more of an end product.

How many times have we seen Leko come on, drift past a player to go back and try to go past him again.

Since pre season when he seemed to figure heavily, I thought we would see A LOT more of Kyle this season, very surprised hes been limited to 1/2 appearances in all honesty. If Saturdays performance is anything to go by then we may have missed a trick in not featuring him more often.

I would prefer to see him playing right wing than a loanee anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2019, 02:30:25 PM »
He seems to have the pace and tricky like Leko, but where he differs is he seems to have more of an end product.

How many times have we seen Leko come on, drift past a player to go back and try to go past him again.

Since pre season when he seemed to figure heavily, I thought we would see A LOT more of Kyle this season, very surprised hes been limited to 1/2 appearances in all honesty. If Saturdays performance is anything to go by then WE may have missed a trick in not featuring him more often.

I would prefer to see him playing right wing than a loanee anyway.

In fairness I don't think it was us who missed the trick. It was the person or people who insisted on shoehorning players into a system as opposed to playing to the strengths of the resources at their disposal.
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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2019, 09:23:20 PM »
Let's not forget Edwards has a couple of years on Leko so we shouldn't write off the latter yet. I actually think Leko is the more gifted of the two and if he improves his decision-making (which you'd expect to come with experience) then we could well have some player on our hands.

I'd love to see them both become fixtures here.

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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2019, 09:41:57 PM »
Let's not forget Edwards has a couple of years on Leko so we shouldn't write off the latter yet. I actually think Leko is the more gifted of the two and if he improves his decision-making (which you'd expect to come with experience) then we could well have some player on our hands.

I'd love to see them both become fixtures here.

Edwards benefits from playing first team football on his loan spells - to be honest, it shows

Leko needs to learn his trade just like Edwards previously.

At that point then we should make a decision on his future here
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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2019, 08:16:55 PM »
Not introduced at all.  It just doesn’t make any sense with the continued absence of Phillips. 

People are saying for Harper it’s contract related.  So what is the reason for Edwards?a


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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2019, 08:19:05 PM »
Not introduced at all.  It just doesn’t make any sense with the continued absence of Phillips. 

People are saying for Harper it’s contract related.  So what is the reason for Edwards?a


Can only assume he was rested after a mediocre performance and Shan thought he was protecting him in some way by not sending him on into today's crisis.
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2019, 08:34:19 PM »
I think you have to have one player in the team capable of going past a couple of defenders especially when you are looking to win every game. At the moment Edwards looks the best bet...and seems to link up tidily as well when there's nothing on. Very one dimensional team selection.

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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2019, 08:50:53 PM »

Can only assume he was rested after a mediocre performance and Shan thought he was protecting him in some way by not sending him on into today's crisis.

More likely HRK is fit and so back to the experienced players regardless

As for the mediocre performance, against Blues he was the only one first half who seemed to care, chased everything whilst others stood and watched
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2019, 08:52:36 PM »
More likely HRK is fit and so back to the experienced players regardless


Many would say Kanu earned his start after his previous performance. I'm not one of them by the way.
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2019, 08:55:01 PM »

Many would say Kanu earned his start after his previous performance. I'm not one of them by the way.


It's horses for courses. Kanu has his part to play but he's not the type of player we should be relying on on a consistent basis.

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« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2019, 07:38:15 PM »

Many would say Kanu earned his start after his previous performance. I'm not one of them by the way.

Trouble is, he's usually woeful  when he starts but yesterday he was worse than that even. Couldn't even do the basics correctly.
Much better when he comes on from the bench for some strange really ?
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2019, 01:50:41 PM »
Big season for the lad and out of contract next June. I really hope we've made him a realistic offer and play him more often as I don't want another Rekeem Harper/Tyler Roberts scenario.
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2019, 05:00:28 PM »
Can we keep this about Edwards, please. We have a thread for discussing the U23s
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2019, 05:34:59 PM »
Big season for the lad and out of contract next June. I really hope we've made him a realistic offer and play him more often as I don't want another Rekeem Harper/Tyler Roberts scenario.
Yes to playing him more often, he looks pretty decent. I hope Bilic takes the selection attitude of if in doubt have faith in the youngster and play him/them.

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« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2019, 09:33:24 PM »
i have a feeling he is going to have a great season,our best player in the first half v villareal didn't seem to push forward as much 2nd half without gibbs behind him,and overall our best player v Scunthorpe yesterday,he is like lighting and as good control with ball at his feet

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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2019, 07:54:41 PM »
If he doesn't play much, he will be gone.

He was pretty fed up with not getting more time last season.
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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2019, 07:56:24 PM »
i have a feeling he is going to have a great season,our best player in the first half v villareal didn't seem to push forward as much 2nd half without gibbs behind him,and overall our best player v Scunthorpe yesterday,he is like lighting and as good control with ball at his feet

Has become our best academy product at the moment, I would put him ahead of Leko and Field.

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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2019, 08:08:37 PM »
It was weird how he disappeared a bit almost directly after a few good performances and a goal.

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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2019, 09:33:50 PM »
It was weird how he disappeared a bit almost directly after a few good performances and a goal.
Cowardice from the manager(s) at the time, always going back to the steady old boys.

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« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2019, 11:11:55 PM »
He's like a modern day Lloyd Dyer, who is unplayable intermittently.

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« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2019, 11:29:50 PM »
He's like a modern day Lloyd Dyer, who is unplayable intermittently.
Much more about him than Dyer with respect , always stood out when I've seen him playing for U23's .
Desperate for a run of games here or elsewhere , personally think he's ready for us now.
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« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2019, 12:52:02 AM »
He's like a modern day Lloyd Dyer, who is unplayable intermittently.
Leko is more of a Lloyd Dyer than Edwards, Edwards seems to have a lot more to his game thab just beating a man. Really needs game time with us this season and didn't look out of place at all in any of the games he played including when he was thrown in as right wing back.

Certainly needs to be coming off the bench as an impact player.

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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2019, 01:09:44 AM »
Him and Burke need to be given a chance this season. Leko on the other hand needs a full season in league 1 to resurrect his career
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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2019, 08:42:18 AM »
Him and Burke need to be given a chance this season. Leko on the other hand needs a full season in league 1 to resurrect his career

Spot on about Leko, the kids development has stalled massively, he needs a season of football now to see if he can actually cut it or not.

Edwards for me is ready to be around the first team now, getting game time. Hasn't looked out of place in any of the games he has featured in, and looks a threat in pre season again.

Burke looked sharp the weekend also - still have doubts about what his best position is.
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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2019, 12:03:53 PM »
Leko is more of a Lloyd Dyer than Edwards, Edwards seems to have a lot more to his game thab just beating a man. Really needs game time with us this season and didn't look out of place at all in any of the games he played including when he was thrown in as right wing back.

Certainly needs to be coming off the bench as an impact player.

I think my opinion of Dyer has been misunderstood.

He had a very long, good career and on his day he was unplayable.

That's the impression I get of Edward, who I have seen play at u23 level too, where he was usually overshadowed by Rayhon Tulloch when I watched them play.

In relation to Leko, you cannot compare him to Dyer, as he cannot even lace his boots yet, as he has done absolutely nothing in the game.

He needs to go down to league one or two play games. The impression I get with Leko is that he thought he had made it when he signed his last, long contract.

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« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2019, 11:09:38 PM »
Matt Wilson posted a picture on Twitter of Bilic spending some time on the pitch (presumably after the game?) talking with Edwards. Hopefully he'll be in the picture a bit more this year; at least seems to be getting attention from the head coach.

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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2019, 05:49:51 PM »
Looked our biggest threat the majority of pre season and was a top 2 or 3 performer last week - great to see him get the goal to cap off his performance.

I hope Edwards is still given a good chance this season, of course there will be rotation and time will tell how consistent he can be but with the influx of players in his position it is a little worry of mine that he may take a backseat to the players with bigger reputations.

Good sign that him and Ferguson were put straight in last week in what was a potentially very dificult opener.

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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2019, 06:46:49 PM »
Class again today. Maybe should have been subbed, legs seemed to go a bit but ran his socks off, the lad
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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2019, 06:49:25 PM »
Another strong performance today. Looks very powerful on the ball, running at defenders, but also showing trickery to put defenders off balance.
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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2019, 07:54:49 PM »
some fantastic skill in the first half today,does tend to start his runs to deep if we can feed him the ball further up the pitch on the shoulder of the last defender he will be devasting

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« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2019, 08:36:32 PM »
some fantastic skill in the first half today,does tend to start his runs to deep if we can feed him the ball further up the pitch on the shoulder of the last defender he will be devasting

Good point regarding the runs, obviously very difficult defence to break through today but he certainly looked to be the key, particularly first half. A couple of fantastic balls into the box that hopefully an in form Austin can get on the end of, pleased to see he looks comfortable going either way, will continue to pose a lot of problems.

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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2019, 08:43:21 PM »
Good lad, here's to a long and successful career at the club.Will have to get used to the idea that there will undoubtedly be some rotation of players this season and he will have to scrap for his place.
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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2019, 10:20:02 PM »
Dare I say he reminds me of a young Clive Clark.
So he'd better prepare himself for some dirty tackles coming his way.
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« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2019, 07:03:54 PM »
Looks more confident every game. More game time and decent coaching will make this young man a success at the Hawthorns.
You can see how much he is enjoying first team duties compared to the stop/start of  last season.

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« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2019, 08:25:46 AM »
i thought he didn't look that great on Saturday, maybe that could have been how the team were playing.

there is definitely a player in there for us in the future unlike Leko but i think he needs to be used sporadically this season to help his development.

the new loan players i can envisage taking his spot in the team.

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« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2019, 08:47:19 AM »
He's starting to look like the player I thought Leko was going to become.

He is looking more comfortable with first team football and doesn't look out of place. Gives us a real threat from the wing.

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« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2019, 08:52:34 AM »
i thought he didn't look that great on Saturday, maybe that could have been how the team were playing.

there is definitely a player in there for us in the future unlike Leko but i think he needs to be used sporadically this season to help his development.

the new loan players i can envisage taking his spot in the team.
Agree with this .Keep him fresh almost naive so as every time he plays he is ready to bomb on. No reason why this can't be done now as we have plenty of cover in those positions.
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« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2019, 12:49:44 PM »
There were a couple of times when he was caught out by his inexperience, but he was very good for the most part. Loved the passing triangles with Gibbs and Krovinovic.

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« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2019, 08:46:31 PM »
i thought he didn't look that great on Saturday, maybe that could have been how the team were playing.

there is definitely a player in there for us in the future unlike Leko but i think he needs to be used sporadically this season to help his development.

the new loan players i can envisage taking his spot in the team.
I had him down as the best player on the pitch in the first half,some incredible ball skills

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« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2019, 09:49:09 PM »
I hope we've started contract discussions, seeing as he has less than a year left
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« Reply #52 on: August 17, 2019, 07:20:59 PM »
Has had a good start to the season. Although wasn't as good today.

My worry is with Phillips periera diangana and willock that eventually he might not keep getting game time. We do have a lot of options on the flanks. If he is going to drop down the ranks we should take advantage of loan market again and get him out. Window closes in a few weeks.
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« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2019, 09:00:29 PM »
Has had a good start to the season. Although wasn't as good today.

My worry is with Phillips periera diangana and willock that eventually he might not keep getting game time. We do have a lot of options on the flanks. If he is going to drop down the ranks we should take advantage of loan market again and get him out. Window closes in a few weeks.


He either has to step up his game or spend time on the substitutes bench.
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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2019, 09:13:06 PM »
Kyle just needs to work on his end product once he has committed his man. He has great ability to dribble and carry the ball at pace.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2019, 12:44:51 AM »
Think he's had an excellent start to the season. I had him down as man of the Match of the Match v Forest. He has an excellent burst of pace combined with power on the ball. Just needs to improve his crossing.
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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2019, 06:36:07 AM »
I thought he was the better out of the two wingers first half. Phillips was poor all game, not looking to run at defenders at all, whereas Edwards was trying to get past defenders and put balls across. Thought he was unlucky to go off rather than Phillips. Certainly turned out to be the right sub though.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2019, 10:17:49 AM »
He appears to be one of those players who has to do everything at speed. I think at the crucial times he could do with just slowing down a touch and really giving himself some time with his crosses. Excellent and getting to that point but always looks rushed in his delivery.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #58 on: Yesterday at 10:24:39 PM »
Did good today and needs tying down he might not make the Jump to top level straight away but if we go up another season on loan at a championship club good see his development further
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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 10:46:32 PM »
He appears to be one of those players who has to do everything at speed. I think at the crucial times he could do with just slowing down a touch and really giving himself some time with his crosses. Excellent and getting to that point but always looks rushed in his delivery.
But doing things at speed is exactly what we needed against Stoke, for example, I don't understand why he didn't come on then, he might be a bit headless but at least he tries to get past his man and will put the defence on the back foot, he has that yard of pace.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 11:02:05 PM »
But doing things at speed is exactly what we needed against Stoke, for example, I don't understand why he didn't come on then, he might be a bit headless but at least he tries to get past his man and will put the defence on the back foot, he has that yard of pace.
Yes, watching Barnes for Leicester the last couple of weeks that's what he's doing. Even if it doesn't come off all the time, I think we need one player who is quick and direct.

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« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 11:09:33 PM »
Yes, watching Barnes for Leicester the last couple of weeks that's what he's doing. Even if it doesn't come off all the time, I think we need one player who is quick and direct.

Sorry. Much as I love one of our own but Edwards is at the very least two levels below Barnes.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #62 on: Today at 02:08:40 AM »
Sorry. Much as I love one of our own but Edwards is at the very least two levels below Barnes.
So are you saying he's as close to Barnes as we have right now?  Barnes was never, or ever going to be our player and if we didn't give him that experience to develope in this league he wouldn't be as good now. How amazing if we actually gave some regular first team time to one of our own young players and they turned out to be good.
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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #63 on: Today at 09:27:18 AM »
Sorry. Much as I love one of our own but Edwards is at the very least two levels below Barnes.
Yes but it's the general point of pace and directness and using the resources we currently have at our disposal.

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« Reply #64 on: Today at 09:49:01 AM »
Yes but it's the general point of pace and directness and using the resources we currently have at our disposal.
Edwards can be every bit as good....like all players, they need to play, have the backing of the manager and crucially for wingers not worry about the times when it “doesn’t come off”
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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #65 on: Today at 10:41:04 AM »
Edwards can be every bit as good....like all players, they need to play, have the backing of the manager and crucially for wingers not worry about the times when it “doesn’t come off”
Edwards won us Preston away...not just the pen, every time he got the ball he went at them...he’s better than people think, reminds me of a dog on a leash, we need to free him off

Edwards doesn't have the technique that Barnes has. You cant coach that into someone. That's not to say Edwards cant be a good player, he can but Barnes is just better quality. 

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #66 on: Today at 11:17:09 AM »
I'd be annoyed if I was Edwards, really he should be starting most games whilst Diangana has been out but he hasn't. I agree that he is inconsistent but he can do it at this level and he wont find that consistency unless he gets game time.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #67 on: Today at 11:58:43 AM »
Edwards doesn't have the technique that Barnes has. You cant coach that into someone. That's not to say Edwards cant be a good player, he can but Barnes is just better quality.

Agreed. Barnes is now starting to have more and more impact at a club flying high on the premiership and that’s a level Edwards will never reach.  Should we get promoted, Edwards can’t be a player we are relying too heavily on.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #68 on: Today at 12:16:05 PM »
Edwards doesn't have the technique that Barnes has. You cant coach that into someone. That's not to say Edwards cant be a good player, he can but Barnes is just better quality.

Of course you can coach technique. What a daft thing to say. If it was pace then fair enough, but technique can be improved through coaching and practice.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #69 on: Today at 12:24:56 PM »
I think Kyle Edwards and Harvey Barnes are very different players and comparing them, for me, is a bit silly. Edwards is more of a Sterling (i'm not comparing them on quality!!) style winger, gets to the back line, runs at people with tricks and step overs, pushes the defence back, holds on to the ball, often for too long which used to be one of Sterling's problems, cuts back onto his right. Barnes is far more direct, two-footed and his a wicked shot on him from range.

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Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« Reply #70 on: Today at 12:27:05 PM »
He was excellent yesterday, one of the biggest positives from yesterday for me, and there were quite a few of those! He should be starting against Cardiff now really.