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« Reply #3425 on: June 11, 2019, 06:47:27 AM »
when Bilic was sacked by West Ham didn't his replacement complain that the players were not fit?

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« Reply #3426 on: June 11, 2019, 08:02:46 AM »
If Bilic's not right, just move on, getting him cheaper won't make him right.
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« Reply #3427 on: June 11, 2019, 08:03:26 AM »
After reading that article from express and star the more I’m thinking we’ll wait for the Wilder situation to be sorted, then try and appoint him and have Appleton as back up  ???

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« Reply #3428 on: June 11, 2019, 08:11:29 AM »
After reading that article from express and star the more I’m thinking we’ll wait for the Wilder situation to be sorted, then try and appoint him and have Appleton as back up  ???

Despite the E&S article stating we won’t be waiting?! Wilson even reiterated it in a tweet. To me it made it sound like we are letting that ship sail and we should because that is based on ifs, buts and maybes surrounding Sheff Utd

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« Reply #3429 on: June 11, 2019, 08:47:39 AM »
Personally I would prefer Hughton to Bilic.

I have warmed to the idea of Adkins, although he isn't the 'statement of intent', i think he would do a good job for us.

What's happened to Labaddia, is that one dead now or is it a case of us saying thanks - we will be in touch.

Still think there's a long way to go before we have an appointment.
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« Reply #3430 on: June 11, 2019, 09:04:30 AM »
Personally I would prefer Hughton to Bilic.

I have warmed to the idea of Adkins, although he isn't the 'statement of intent', i think he would do a good job for us.

What's happened to Labaddia, is that one dead now or is it a case of us saying thanks - we will be in touch.

Still think there's a long way to go before we have an appointment.


Reading between the lines I think Albion have decided Labbadia is not the one they want. It was stated that wages weren't an issue with Labbadia but following his interview Albion seem to have cooled their interest. Similarly Cowley, Bowyer seem to out of the running now, whilst the likes of Monk, Pearson I don't think were ever seriously considered.

After holding a second interview with Bilic, talks are ongoing, from what I can make out regarding bonuses and the like. If they are fine tuning details as they seemingly are it does seem that Bilic is the one from all the people they've looked into (and boy there clearly have been a number) that they really want. According to Matt Wilson there's been no word of any impasse from either side so I wouldn't be surprised to see Bilic announced within the next 48 hours.

............... However, this is of course Albion we're talking about so it'll probably drag on for another three months then they'll appoint Ron Atkinson again.  ;D

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« Reply #3431 on: June 11, 2019, 09:08:09 AM »
Or Ron Saunders, he'd wouldn't want much in the way of wages.

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« Reply #3432 on: June 11, 2019, 09:18:57 AM »
I think it will be Adkins now. They've had ample time to sort a deal with a number of out of work managers (Hughton, Jokanovic, Labbadia, Bilic to name a few), Bowyer and Wilder have apparently been considered along with Cowley. Maybe a couple of others have been considered too.

I recall Peace apparently liking Adkins a lot in the past which may influence Jenkins now. He's relatively cheap , can work on the cheap, will probably work in our 'model' (DoF puppet of Jenkins), plays decent football on the whole and has achieved promotions (Scunthorpe and Southampton). He'd be a safe, prudent (cheaper/ lower risk) option than others and probably wouldn't demand we reinvest too much money from player sales which is probably very important to Jenkins and Lai.

Adkins would be ok and would see us as a good step in his career as opposed to others who may wonder what hits them after they start work here and realise what a mess we've become. You never know it might just work out............he made a relative success of Hull who have also been in a mess.

Can't wait for the season to begin already!

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« Reply #3433 on: June 11, 2019, 09:28:16 AM »
I think there is a spectrum with steady eddies like hughton and Adkins at one end and fireworks like Bilic and Jokanovic at the other. I think I'm at the steady Eddie end as the other end will see us going through all this again in 12 months

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« Reply #3434 on: June 11, 2019, 09:47:18 AM »
I think it will be Adkins now. They've had ample time to sort a deal with a number of out of work managers (Hughton, Jokanovic, Labbadia, Bilic to name a few), Bowyer and Wilder have apparently been considered along with Cowley. Maybe a couple of others have been considered too.

I recall Peace apparently liking Adkins a lot in the past which may influence Jenkins now. He's relatively cheap , can work on the cheap, will probably work in our 'model' (DoF puppet of Jenkins), plays decent football on the whole and has achieved promotions (Scunthorpe and Southampton). He'd be a safe, prudent (cheaper/ lower risk) option than others and probably wouldn't demand we reinvest too much money from player sales which is probably very important to Jenkins and Lai.

Adkins would be ok and would see us as a good step in his career as opposed to others who may wonder what hits them after they start work here and realise what a mess we've become. You never know it might just work out............he made a relative success of Hull who have also been in a mess.

Can't wait for the season to begin already!

Bang on mate.

The more I think about it, the more I can see Adkins being the one they choose.

The idea of getting Bilic in probably looks more like a coup for a championship team, but in all honesty I don't really see him being the man to rebuild a squad, I had a quick look at his signings at West Ham and he didn't really bring anyone of note in on the cheap, his better signings were big money deals, that isn't going to be an option this summer.

Hughton and Adkins like you said, represent a 'safer' pair of hands, more likely to steady the ship and less erratic.

I think the board and especially Jenkins would see Adkins as the ideal man, cheaper, knows the league, would see us as a potential step up, wont haggle over wages and will probably be happy to work on a tighter budget.

I wouldn't be surprised if the club haven't spoken to Adkins with the prospect of letting him have a few weeks off with a 'gentlemens agreement' to be the next boss, whilst keeping one eye on the Sheff United situation in the hope Wilder becomes available.
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« Reply #3435 on: June 11, 2019, 09:49:44 AM »
I think it will be Adkins now. They've had ample time to sort a deal with a number of out of work managers (Hughton, Jokanovic, Labbadia, Bilic to name a few), Bowyer and Wilder have apparently been considered along with Cowley. Maybe a couple of others have been considered too.

I recall Peace apparently liking Adkins a lot in the past which may influence Jenkins now. He's relatively cheap , can work on the cheap, will probably work in our 'model' (DoF puppet of Jenkins), plays decent football on the whole and has achieved promotions (Scunthorpe and Southampton). He'd be a safe, prudent (cheaper/ lower risk) option than others and probably wouldn't demand we reinvest too much money from player sales which is probably very important to Jenkins and Lai.

Adkins would be ok and would see us as a good step in his career as opposed to others who may wonder what hits them after they start work here and realise what a mess we've become. You never know it might just work out............he made a relative success of Hull who have also been in a mess.

Can't wait for the season to begin already.

Is there any evidence that we've even spoken to Adkins?

Also it's been reported that we are at a crucial stage of negotiations with Bilic.
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« Reply #3436 on: June 11, 2019, 09:57:43 AM »
Is there any evidence that we've even spoken to Adkins?

Also it's been reported that we are at a crucial stage of negotiations with Bilic.


The only people who have mentioned Adkins have been our supporters. No evidence whatsoever that Albion are interested in Adkins.

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« Reply #3437 on: June 11, 2019, 10:08:12 AM »
I would have no problem if we appointed a Hughton or Adkins, both are good managers, Adkins i think plays better football but Hughton has experience at the higher level (should we get there) i can see the appeal to both.

However the issue with appointing a safe pair of hands is that you get more of the same, Pulis was a safe pair of hands, Pardew was supposedly a safe pair of hands, Darren Moore knew the club inside out, even Jimmy Shan who knew the club inside out brought in two assistants in Reid and Appleton who knew the club.

Certainly Pulis and Pardew have made managerial careers out of working off a certain template (as most managers do) but i just feel things have gone stale at the Albion over the last few years and maybe it does need the type of character is a bit more think outside the box, who doesnt know the club, who will break up the core, who will freshen things up.

I feel with a Hughton or Adkins they will probably work largely with what they have got and have no doubt would do a decent job, however i personally would like somebody who is going to come in and get me excited as a fan again, that Ardiles or Mowbray type appointment, a little bit of a risk.

Of course for every Ardiles or Mowbray there is a Pepe Mel or Irvine but i just feel how stale we have become its a risk we should take to lift the club again, however its not me who has hundreds of millions invested like Mr Lai so he probably wont view things the same!
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« Reply #3438 on: June 11, 2019, 11:20:52 AM »
Is there any evidence that we've even spoken to Adkins?

Also it's been reported that we are at a crucial stage of negotiations with Bilic.

No, no evidence that I'm aware of - just putting 2 and 2 together - Albion usually look for cheaper options, 'steady Eddie' characters , Adkins out of contract in two weeks time, Peace's past view of Adkins (Jenkins a Peace disciple), Adkins working on a budget, much lower paid than others..........

It is tough to see how this leadership can re-invigorate the club whoever comes in , we seem a bit like the club Megson joined and had to 'electrify' hence why maybe a bigger, stronger character is needed to wake everyone up!

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« Reply #3439 on: June 11, 2019, 11:22:30 AM »
I think there is a spectrum with steady eddies like hughton and Adkins at one end and fireworks like Bilic and Jokanovic at the other. I think I'm at the steady Eddie end as the other end will see us going through all this again in 12 months

Being an old school Albion fan, fireworks is what i go for. The club used to have an air of flair, panache and the outrageous in the way we played.
Steady Eddie? Nah, not for me.

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« Reply #3440 on: June 11, 2019, 11:33:39 AM »
I think the fact our academy manager has now left us aswell, leaves another role that now needs to be filled.

We just seem to be on a bit of a downward spiral at the moment and its going to take a strong appointment to grab us by the scruff of the neck and wake us up.
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« Reply #3441 on: June 11, 2019, 11:37:30 AM »
I think the fact our academy manager has now left us aswell, leaves another role that now needs to be filled.

We just seem to be on a bit of a downward spiral at the moment and its going to take a strong appointment to grab us by the scruff of the neck and wake us up.


James Shan step forward.
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« Reply #3442 on: June 11, 2019, 11:58:56 AM »

James Shan step forward.
Keeps him at the club and no compensation to pay. Winner winner chicken dinner

Based on what I've read on Twitter, Shan is more likely to join him than take over from him
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« Reply #3443 on: June 11, 2019, 12:14:08 PM »
Based on what I've read on Twitter, Shan is more likely to join him than take over from him
linky please? He’s been guaranteed a high position whether the new manager wants him as a coach or not, so for him to go would need a massive change of heart.

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« Reply #3444 on: June 11, 2019, 12:25:06 PM »
linky please? He’s been guaranteed a high position whether the new manager wants him as a coach or not, so for him to go would need a massive change of heart.

Shan doesn't seem the type to stick around if he's not wanted. I imagine if the new boss doesn't fancy Jimmy as part of his coaching staff, he will be off to a new adventure. He deserves more than returning to his under 23's job.

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« Reply #3445 on: June 11, 2019, 12:36:00 PM »
linky please? He’s been guaranteed a high position whether the new manager wants him as a coach or not, so for him to go would need a massive change of heart.

https://twitter.com/T2Mardybum/status/1138378384755625984?s=19

Retweeted by Chris Lepkowski but no-one ITK as far as I can tell

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« Reply #3446 on: June 11, 2019, 12:41:31 PM »

James Shan step forward.
Keeps him at the club and no compensation to pay. Winner winner chicken dinner

That would be a backward step for Shan
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« Reply #3447 on: June 11, 2019, 12:51:16 PM »
https://twitter.com/T2Mardybum/status/1138378384755625984?s=19

Retweeted by Chris Lepkowski but no-one ITK as far as I can tell

And I think he will be back for a few of our academy players, worrying is that
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« Reply #3448 on: June 11, 2019, 12:52:10 PM »
Being an old school Albion fan, fireworks is what i go for. The club used to have an air of flair, panache and the outrageous in the way we played.
Steady Eddie? Nah, not for me.

This, all day long!
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« Reply #3449 on: June 11, 2019, 12:53:40 PM »
Blimey what a saga this is. I will have nothing to look at during my lunch break when we finally appoint someone. Still, I'm okay for a while yet methinks ;D