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Pre Match Chat
« on: November 20, 2018, 10:58:00 AM »
West Bromwich Albion v Aston Villa

Friday 7th December 2018 20.00pm

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2018, 02:22:59 PM »
After the Blues game things beginning to hot up on social media, this already feels like a big game, the like of which we haven't had for a while. 1,300 tickets left lets snap them up and bury these lot.


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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2018, 10:00:27 PM »
Pinched from anther thread...
Villa have also conceded several from set pieces haven't they ? Not that we want to rely on those too much.

Pulis should have got something there if that was the case.
As you say...We shouldn't rely on those sort of tactics.
Pressure them and their keeper, I feel would be the best way.
We have a great strike force and we have players who can shoot.
They will not know where our attack will come from...There is no obvious striker (unlike when we had only Rondon).

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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 01:15:18 PM »
Need a performance like Leeds at home to beat this lot, their playing well and scoring goals Gayle needs to be in first 11 with HRK being dropped

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 03:20:13 PM »
Without the coward in charge we should have a go at them, Darren knows what beating these can do to his reputation, I think he will go out all guns blazing !  Could be a really exciting game!
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 06:17:24 PM »
I think you're more likely to sit in deep and try and hit us on the break. You did Bristol 4-1 playing like that and Leeds.


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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 07:05:36 PM »
We are unchanged yet again. We can’t keep Gayle on the bench. He’s far too good to be left out of the starting line up.

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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 07:14:21 PM »
We are unchanged yet again. We can’t keep Gayle on the bench. He’s far too good to be left out of the starting line up.

Agreed. I think the system would work just as well with JRod our wide and Gayle through the middle. Saying that kanu has been winning a lot of free kicks recently.

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 07:27:51 PM »
Think it’s a mistake going for the same 11 again we didn’t play particularly well at Swansea especially going forward, I’d drop Jrod for Gayle personally maybe bring Barry in to control the midfield also.

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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2018, 07:31:39 PM »
For Gayle to play Rodriguez or Barnes will need to be left out. Kanu is imperative to the system as the only left footer and the only physical presence.


For me Rodriguez should be sat on the bench.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2018, 10:43:38 PM »
For Gayle to play Rodriguez or Barnes will need to be left out. Kanu is imperative to the system as the only left footer and the only physical presence.


For me Rodriguez should be sat on the bench.
Almost what Keith Andrews was saying after the game
Gayle doesn't work in the middle of the three , I think HRK looked good again tonight, but he will be the one to miss out
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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2018, 10:50:22 PM »
For Gayle to play Rodriguez or Barnes will need to be left out. Kanu is imperative to the system as the only left footer and the only physical presence.


For me Rodriguez should be sat on the bench.

Agreed. Rodriguez is offering absolutely nothing, both have been poor but at least Barnes offers a threat.

Against the Villa I would shore the midfield up a bit though, sit Barry in there alongside Livermore and Morrison and push Phillips to the right wing, Gayle through the middle and Barnes from the left

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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2018, 11:16:52 PM »
I think we'll score at least two against your defence but I also think you'll score at least two against ours. 2-2 or 3-3
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2018, 11:19:49 PM »
I don't/didn't normally rate HRK, but tonighht showed how much we needed him to hold the ball up. The second half we struggled because there wasn't anyone who could do his job.
Hopefully with his being taken off, he gets a bit of extra rest and comes out all guns firing.

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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2018, 11:25:46 PM »
Agreed. Rodriguez is offering absolutely nothing, both have been poor but at least Barnes offers a threat.

Against the Villa I would shore the midfield up a bit though, sit Barry in there alongside Livermore and Morrison and push Phillips to the right wing, Gayle through the middle and Barnes from the left

If HRK isn't fit for the game that's what I would be doing. Barry cm and Phillips as the other wide forward. Rodriguez needs dropping for gayle
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2018, 11:28:13 PM »
Well they're out of the woodwork again...


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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2018, 09:11:36 AM »
We must win this game, in terms of both getting points on the board and the obvious.

As Jacko says, they are well and truly out the woodwork again, and rightly so as they have appointed a very promising manager who should be sat in our dugout, but we must silence them.

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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2018, 09:38:36 AM »
Not as confident as I would have been a couple weeks ago.

They seem to have found their feet under Dean Smith now, which should make for an interesting game.

We could have done with keeping the clean sheet last night, we keep letting in these late goals to lose the clean sheet, it may start to play on the players minds a little when we get into the last 10/15 of games.

Got a feeling it will be a draw, 1-1.
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2018, 10:53:02 AM »
We're currently creating 20 plus chances on average a game. The way we are at the moment, teams are needing to put a big score on us to take a point.

I'd be surprised if we didn't get 2 or 3 at least given the way you defend and how good we are going forwards. Whether that's good enough to actually win us the game though is another matter.

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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2018, 02:09:44 PM »
We're currently creating 20 plus chances on average a game. The way we are at the moment, teams are needing to put a big score on us to take a point.

I'd be surprised if we didn't get 2 or 3 at least given the way you defend and how good we are going forwards. Whether that's good enough to actually win us the game though is another matter.
2-1 us, you'll score but dont think youll get as many as you might think.
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2018, 04:16:58 PM »
We're currently creating 20 plus chances on average a game. The way we are at the moment, teams are needing to put a big score on us to take a point.

I'd be surprised if we didn't get 2 or 3 at least given the way you defend and how good we are going forwards. Whether that's good enough to actually win us the game though is another matter.
We created 20+ last night and on another day would have scored 5. The Forest game suggests your defence isn't that good either so I think safe to assume it will finish 0-0!

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2018, 05:47:59 PM »
We're hot and cold defensively. Prone to mistakes, but that's this league all over.

4 out of the last 8 have been clean sheets. I think the Forest game was one of those freak once in a generation games. Very entertaining though.

Like with your defending last night for their goal, I just can't see it being 0-0.

Why did you look so leggy last 15 minutes? Surprised at that.

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2018, 05:56:43 PM »
I just don't know how to predict this game. Another 5-5 wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world so knowing the way football works it'll probably be 0-0.  ::)

Our defence isn't bad, it really isn't Sam Johnstone has barely had a save to make over four games we just somehow seem to gift every team we play against a goal. Friday would be a great time to stop doing that.

Villa are scoring for fun at the moment so you wouldn't bet against them scoring on Friday and given the fact that I'm used to the jammy fuggers beating us over the years I fully expect they'll do so again.

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2018, 12:07:07 PM »
2-1 Albion

It'll be a great game im sure....just dont want to lose to them...my life will be hell if we dont
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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2018, 12:48:30 PM »
Right now I'd settle for a high scoring draw, but I'd prefer a 1-0 off someone's shin in the 94th minute.

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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2018, 12:58:08 PM »
We can beat them, why be happy with a point? Barcelona or Man City they are not!!

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« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2018, 03:33:07 PM »
We can beat them, why be happy with a point? Barcelona or Man City they are not!!

Overheard a Viler saying the same thing in the pub last night in regards to us.

You're both quite right, into 'em Albion.

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« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2018, 05:21:38 PM »
I reckon we will beat them on Friday but I won't know any thing about it till I wake up early Saturday morning bursting for water , it my birthday and going out all day, a win would be a great present.
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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2018, 06:41:09 AM »
Match Day and can't wait for tonight !

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2018, 06:50:01 AM »
We can beat them, why be happy with a point? Barcelona or Man City they are not!!

Under Smith we're the highest scorers, we have the most passes, most passes completed, the highest average possession and most shots on goal, while averaging the necessary 2 points per game. Can't help but feel we'd be well clear at the top if he'd been in during the summer.

But it is what it is. Must win for us.

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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2018, 08:26:59 AM »
Under Smith we're the highest scorers, we have the most passes, most passes completed, the highest average possession and most shots on goal, while averaging the necessary 2 points per game. Can't help but feel we'd be well clear at the top if he'd been in during the summer.

But it is what it is. Must win for us.

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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2018, 08:34:31 AM »
Under Smith we're the highest scorers, we have the most passes, most passes completed, the highest average possession and most shots on goal, while averaging the necessary 2 points per game. Can't help but feel we'd be well clear at the top if he'd been in during the summer.

But it is what it is. Must win for us.
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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2018, 08:53:15 AM »
If you are that good why is it a must win?

As we're playing catch up, it's a side in competition with us, it would be another statement to the league. To absolutely murder Derby and Boro away and then go and beat the Albion would be a sign of intent.

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« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2018, 09:15:47 AM »
It'll be a good game. There should  be (kiss of death) be goals in it. Villa are the form side out of the two of us but we are dangerous going forward and look tighter since reverting to a 4-5-1.  I'd love a win but can't see past a score draw (2-2) at the moment? A lot will depend on our midfield. I expect Villa to have lots of possession but I think their defence can be got at!

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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2018, 09:24:57 AM »
It'll be a good game. There should  be (kiss of death) be goals in it. Villa are the form side out of the two of us but we are dangerous going forward and look tighter since reverting to a 4-5-1.  I'd love a win but can't see past a score draw (2-2) at the moment? A lot will depend on our midfield. I expect Villa to have lots of possession but I think their defence can be got at!

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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2018, 09:29:58 AM »
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2018, 09:34:29 AM »
I'm going for a high scoring draw.It's going to be a good game- the sides are well matched -looking forward to it.

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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2018, 09:59:47 AM »
I just hope their players are as over confident as their fans.
No delusion here, they are a good side but so are we. Could go either way.

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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2018, 10:45:43 AM »
Excited, but also nervous, could go either way.

Share many of the sentiments above and think it will a high scoring game either way (will be boring 0-0 now i'm sure  ::) )
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« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2018, 10:56:11 AM »
Very nervous about this one, I'd imagine they'll target our RB as the weak link in our back 4. The pessimist in me says 3-1 Villa....

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« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2018, 11:07:29 AM »
Dreading this...

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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2018, 11:13:49 AM »
Come on chaps, have some faith. We all thought we were going to get mullered by the 'strong favourites' Leeds and look what happened there. Villa are a reasonable side who have found a bit of form. We are not too bad ourselves........

Hopefully Mozza will shut Grealish up and Darren will use his substitutions correctly and at the right time.

Will be a good game

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« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2018, 11:28:54 AM »
Some of the comments on this thread.

We're playing Aston Villa not Barcelona.....

..... get a bloody grip, into 'em Albion, COYB and SOTV  8) .
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« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2018, 12:15:36 PM »
3-2, just not sure who to.

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« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2018, 12:24:18 PM »
Some of the comments on this thread.

We're playing Aston Villa not Barcelona.....

..... get a bloody grip, into 'em Albion, COYB and SOTV  8) .
Madness ay it?
We should not fear these, Smith's not the feckin messiah.
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« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2018, 12:37:06 PM »
They've already won the European Cup then?

When was that?

Surprised none of them ever mention it.........  ;D .
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« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2018, 12:49:43 PM »
I'm ready to cringe my way through the horrendous "all go down" song that will inevitably be sung today; makes me angry.

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« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2018, 12:54:01 PM »
There is a definite almost palpable frisson in the air about this particular game this time around, not sure why maybe it is the Friday night, end of the week thing.
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« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2018, 01:05:04 PM »
I'm ready to cringe my way through the horrendous "all go down" song that will inevitably be sung today; makes me angry.

Want to go up this season, not bloody down.

Oh yes, that delight will be out in full force tonight  :(

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« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2018, 01:12:23 PM »
I have a bad feeling about this one.

We're playing them at just the wrong time, when Smith's making his presence felt and they're picking up positive results. They've also been allowed to cheat FFP, and they have the manager I wanted in the summer, so I'm guessing a really annoying 0-3.

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« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2018, 02:13:10 PM »
I have a bad feeling about this one.

We're playing them at just the wrong time, when Smith's making his presence felt and they're picking up positive results. They've also been allowed to cheat FFP, and they have the manager I wanted in the summer, so I'm guessing a really annoying 0-3.

I also have a bad feeling but it’s the championship such an unpredictable league, theve been on an absolute tear so it wouldn’t suprise me if we turned them over 4-0 after they beat borough 3-0 away last weekend, the results are all over the place in this league.

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« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2018, 02:15:12 PM »
Think there will be goals in this and septic peg predicts they will be scored by a man.  :P

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« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2018, 02:25:54 PM »
Their defence is more suspect than ours of late,ours has tightened up with the formation.
Our strikers and centre backs are more lethal than theirs.
Midfield battle will be crucial.
Were at home our fans roaring us on,well be well up for it tonight 2-0 baggies.
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« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2018, 02:40:01 PM »
Controversial but i have a feeling DM will go  4--5 - 1..with Brunty installed left midfield...

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« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2018, 03:31:36 PM »
Just wish we had a bit more attacking intent right side. Tosin is not the answer there.
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« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2018, 03:39:32 PM »
Controversial but i have a feeling DM will go  4--5 - 1..with Brunty installed left midfield...

A defeat then in that case.  >:(

I'm just praying Barnes and Phillips will be on fire and we can give them something to worry about.

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« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2018, 05:01:12 PM »
I have a bad feeling about this one.

We're playing them at just the wrong time, when Smith's making his presence felt and they're picking up positive results. They've also been allowed to cheat FFP, and they have the manager I wanted in the summer, so I'm guessing a really annoying 0-3.

Can we please have a little more optimism? :P

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« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2018, 05:05:49 PM »
If there was one game all season I wish to see Darren prove me wrong about his tactical acumen, it is this one.

Please for the love of God, get it right tonight, Darren.

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« Reply #59 on: December 07, 2018, 05:06:12 PM »
Can we please have a little more optimism? :P
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« Reply #60 on: December 07, 2018, 05:08:29 PM »
If there was one game all season I wish to see Darren prove me wrong about his tactical acumen, it is this one.

Please for the love of God, get it right tonight, Darren.

If we win it might get him a few days relief but you’d be on his back pretty soon after. 

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« Reply #61 on: December 07, 2018, 05:26:52 PM »
What a day this would be to get the elusive second clean sheet...
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« Reply #62 on: December 07, 2018, 05:30:23 PM »
If we win it might get him a few days relief but you’d be on his back pretty soon after.

I just judge it on what I’m watching, no preconceived ideas, and his tactics and decision making has been abysmal all season, what do you want me to say? Oh everything is great despite the fact it’s clearly not based on what I’m watching?

One clean sheet all season. One.
 
Let’s make it two tonight please

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« Reply #63 on: December 07, 2018, 05:31:04 PM »
COYB. Let's get behind the lads tonight. Whoever wants it more will win.

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« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2018, 05:52:42 PM »
I just judge it on what I’m watching, no preconceived ideas, and his tactics and decision making has been abysmal all season, what do you want me to say? Oh everything is great despite the fact it’s clearly not based on what I’m watching?

One clean sheet all season. One.
 
Let’s make it two tonight please

Third in the league. Top scorers.

Tactics abysmlal? Changing from 442 to 3412 to beat Norwich and then going on a great run?

Then adapting his tactics to go 433 to go another excellent run of results?

I genuinely have no idea what you are watching
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« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2018, 06:06:56 PM »
0-2  ;D Will that do you?

Villa fan in disguise??

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« Reply #66 on: December 07, 2018, 06:12:42 PM »
I just judge it on what I’m watching, no preconceived ideas, and his tactics and decision making has been abysmal all season, what do you want me to say? Oh everything is great despite the fact it’s clearly not based on what I’m watching?

One clean sheet all season. One.
 
Let’s make it two tonight please
While there has been things I've not agreed with it hasn't been all season , he's got plenty right too.
Seem to remember you being chuffed with the Leeds game after preaching on here about Moore's lack of tactics .
As I say theres things I'm not keen on but lets have a bit of balance please.
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« Reply #67 on: December 07, 2018, 06:53:28 PM »
Hope we win dont think i could stomach the (Should of gone gone for Dean Smith) merchants!

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« Reply #68 on: December 07, 2018, 06:58:54 PM »
Serious question....If we win tonight, does that make us champions of europe?

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« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2018, 07:04:41 PM »
Gayle and Barry both in the starting line up tonight. Harper, Sako and Burke amongst the subs

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« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2018, 07:09:34 PM »
Lots of options from the bench if we fall behind.

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« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2018, 07:11:52 PM »
Would have preferred Gayle for Rodriguez and either Sako or Burke for kanu

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« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2018, 07:18:45 PM »
Watching this in a bar in Florida. 23c and ice cold Tennants. What could possibly go wrong? I’m as nervous as hell, and would give anything to be there. COYB!!!!
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« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2018, 07:23:31 PM »
Would have preferred Gayle for Rodriguez and either  for kanu

I’d love to say that they deserve a start but neither has done anything whatsoever to deserve a start. Sako at least has a strong track record behind him. For the record these are the types of players I would love to see on form, but there’s no way they have shown anything to get in the first eleven in such an important game.

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« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2018, 07:34:24 PM »
Morrison a big loss , picked up a knock :(
I'm not a Barry fan yet , impress me tonight !
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« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2018, 07:47:12 PM »
Please see my link to the Woodman tonight lol
http://westbrom.com/forum/index.php?topic=22643.0

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« Reply #76 on: December 07, 2018, 08:00:23 PM »
I flipping hate these scum

Get into ‘em Albion
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