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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #275 on: December 07, 2018, 10:38:56 PM »
It's not often we get lucky, especially against them. They're in great form and we did well to respond twice, I'll happily take a jammy draw to deny them a win.
Fair result overall. Their best player was a defender, Hutton, he make some brilliant blocks even though he was at fault for our first goal.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #276 on: December 07, 2018, 10:40:54 PM »
The knee jerk criticism is what gets to me. The big picture in my view is that we are doing really well.

Pulis killed us and Pardew buried us. Moore is reviving us.

We may well not go up but we are making a decent attempt and pride is restored.

It's anything but knee jerk, we are suffering with the same issues we have seen ALL season.

We SHOULD be making a decent attempt at coming back up considering the quality of players we have.  What's frustrating is writing off of well deserved criticism with things like "well, we are doing alright" or "we are top scorers".  We have clear faults in the way we set up and play and they are not  being addressed.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #277 on: December 07, 2018, 10:42:03 PM »
 I agree Villa should have put the game to bed but they let us back in it last 10 minutes and they were hanging on I think we got what we deserved in the end.

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« Reply #278 on: December 07, 2018, 10:44:45 PM »
Stole a point...2 out of 6 at home is poor...

Or to pick out the positives - unbeaten in the last two home games (actually the last three)?
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« Reply #279 on: December 07, 2018, 10:44:52 PM »
Villa were really average but we were so poor that we made them look great. Baffling tactics and subs again but somehow we scrape a point. As an Albion fan I'll go to bed happy tonight inspite of the negatives.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #280 on: December 07, 2018, 10:46:17 PM »
Clueless Moore gets out of jail again, abysmal substitutions yet again, no chance we're keeping a clean sheet this season. Villa will get in the automatics if they replace that sh*t keeper in January. If we'd appointed Smith in the summer we'd be top by miles.

Yeah, because everybody knows that football works like that...?
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« Reply #281 on: December 07, 2018, 10:47:42 PM »
Soooo happy!!! They must hurt so much. Anyone who who was there...you were a part of history. Forget tactics. It was a game bigger than that. To equalize the way we did makes it so much sweeter. SOTV 😂
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« Reply #282 on: December 07, 2018, 10:49:19 PM »
And 6 points from these 2 games would have put us top...

But third in the table is not bad at this stage - considering some believe that we have a “clueless” manager in charge...?
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #283 on: December 07, 2018, 10:50:53 PM »
Given up on Moore changing it from bench when his tactical nouse is to replace Livermore with Brunt. Defending has been laughable this season and that's on his back, having no body in midfield to control play is concerning so I hope we address this in January.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #284 on: December 07, 2018, 10:53:11 PM »
Barnes ripped Hutton apart 1st half so Smith switched him to the other side, Moore should've done the same with Barnes to keep the pressure on Hutton.we lost the central driving runs from Phillips second half and pumped more high balls into the box that's not really our strength even though we scored from a cross. handball but I couldn't give a toss against them tossers.

This is the key point. We stopped feeding Barnes and starting going long ball. We could have switched him to the other wing as he was terrorising Hutton. 8 points from 12 or 11 from 15 either way it's not bad. The Brentford result is the kicker
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #285 on: December 07, 2018, 10:56:30 PM »
But third in the table is not bad at this stage - considering some believe that we have a “clueless” manager in charge...?
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #286 on: December 07, 2018, 10:59:34 PM »
Don’t understand some of the digs at Barry. I thought he was excellent in the first half. Some of his passing was sublime, reads the game better than most of our midfielders. Yeah agree he hasn’t got the legs for 90 minutes, he did well!  Jayrod wasn’t that bad either, put himself about. My main worry is Johnson, he never gets anywhere to any shots from outside the area all season, really not convinced with him Anyway happy with a point,&move on. Lot more winnable games coming up. SOTV. Boing boing

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #287 on: December 07, 2018, 11:05:54 PM »
I take it the celebrators are celebrating.  :P
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« Reply #288 on: December 07, 2018, 11:08:50 PM »
I think Barry showed today his passing is still the best we have at the club, did well for the first hour until tiredness came in, Livermore was knackered but Brunt not the answer, the midfield needs legs in this league, Derby showed it and so did Villa tonight.

Rodriguez should have made way for Burke or even Sako after Burke had came on, yes Rodriguez got the equaliser but I bet 99% of us would have taken him off by then. 

We got a point where we deserved nothing. My thoughts on this season still not changed, at this stage we will still be lucky to scrape the play-offs. January needs investment in the middle of the pitch.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #289 on: December 07, 2018, 11:09:34 PM »
Baffled by some of comments on here. Thought we were the better side for the first 35 minutes but lost control at the end of the half. We played well in the second too until the wonder goal knocked the stuffing out of us. The lads looked like they were running on adrenaline and just seemed shattered. Yes, the Vile - clearly a good side who will be right up there come May - should have put us away afterwards and we (FOR ONCE) got lucky against them at the end but  we were worth the point. Some positive signs.

On an aside, I thoroughly enjoyed our modified version of the Liquidator and it was nice to hear the return of the Albion roar, albeit sporadically. As always, our support was just different class to the Vilers. Cringeworthy.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #290 on: December 07, 2018, 11:15:21 PM »
Villa were really average but we were so poor that we made them look great. Baffling tactics and subs again but somehow we scrape a point. As an Albion fan I'll go to bed happy tonight inspite of the negatives.

Thought Villa looked a decent team out there tonight, tidy and full of running in midfield with pace and some skill out wide....If they let Smith strengthen in January i have them as a good bet for top 2.   We were ok but the better teams in this division highlight our weaknesses. 

Yes Barry has good vision and touch and I only wish he was 5 years younger as there are times when players just run past him.  Livermore struggled at time