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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #400 on: January 11, 2019, 10:44:52 AM »
A huge blow, very important player for us and for my money, one of the best if not the best player in the league this season. Leicester fans I know wanted him to see the season out with us, they thought it would be better for his development in the long term. I just hope we get to keep him for the Norwich game - that doesn't seem to have been announced as of yet.

Going forward our replacements within the current squad for his role look to be:

Gayle/Rodriguez on the left with Robson-Kanu on the right
Sako in as a like for like although he is a lefty and with Gibbs attacking, an inverted wide player gives us more balance
Leko in as a like for like
Phillips moves forward

I would favour the latter however Phillips would need replacing in midfield with a genuine attacking midfielder. Phillips looked good playing from the left-wing during that purple patch under Pulis.

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #401 on: January 11, 2019, 10:45:23 AM »
Day before we play Norwich.

You w@nker Puel.
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If you don't know how to use them, they will never be enough.
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #402 on: January 11, 2019, 10:47:08 AM »
Awful news.

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #403 on: January 11, 2019, 10:49:19 AM »
A huge blow, very important player for us and for my money, one of the best if not the best player in the league this season. Leicester fans I know wanted him to see the season out with us, they thought it would be better for his development in the long term. I just hope we get to keep him for the Norwich game - that doesn't seem to have been announced as of yet.

Going forward our replacements within the current squad for his role look to be:

Gayle/Rodriguez on the left with Robson-Kanu on the right
Sako in as a like for like although he is a lefty and with Gibbs attacking, an inverted wide player gives us more balance
Leko in as a like for like
Phillips moves forward

I would favour the latter however Phillips would need replacing in midfield with a genuine attacking midfielder. Phillips looked good playing from the left-wing during that purple patch under Pulis.
You forgot Brunt, could see him on the left with Harper in the middle.

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #404 on: January 11, 2019, 10:51:08 AM »
Terrible decision for his progress as an individual, but with the life as a manager being so fragile you can understand why Puel would do it.

He will probably play a couple of times in Jan now but I’d be surprised if he gets 300 minutes before the end of the season 

They could have a very unhappy and discontent HB in the summer

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #405 on: January 11, 2019, 10:54:18 AM »
You forgot Brunt, could see him on the left with Harper in the middle.

Playing Brunt as one of the wide forwards would really change the way that they operate. they are expected to remain high up the pitch, higher than the centre forward and look to hold up the ball, counter with pace or look to run in behind, none of which Brunt can do which is why I didn't list him as an option.

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #406 on: January 11, 2019, 10:54:55 AM »
Disaster. Bye-Bye automatic promotion. All we need now is for Jones to go too.
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #407 on: January 11, 2019, 11:01:58 AM »
Sadly, its no surprise to me; Leicester did the same thing with Barnsley last season. He carried them somewhat until mid-season and his departure was the start of their demise to getting relegated. His departure shouldn't have such a pronounced effect on us, but we still need a quality replacement in as soon as possible to continue the promotion push.

Barnes sometimes doesn't do enough over the whole 90 mins, but he is one of a small number of players that can create something from nothing and ultimately score match winning goals and its this quality that will impact us most and is really difficult to replace as everybody is looking for the same qualities.

If Sako had been given more time around the first team, he would be the obvious answer. However his lack of minutes and minimal impact he's made when he's played suggests this is not the solution.

Similarly, Harper could be an option in the current Matt Phillips role, allowing Phillips to play further forward. However, I don't think the coaching team will put their faith in him when there is so much at stake this season.

Hopefully our esteemed technical director has some aces up his sleeve and Jenkins gets the cheque book out. Sadly I fear neither will happen.
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #408 on: January 11, 2019, 11:08:30 AM »
Whos his replacement tomorrow then, brunt

Good luck Barnes hope to see you in the England squad soon
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #409 on: January 11, 2019, 11:09:40 AM »
Whos his replacement tomorrow then, brunt


Sako I'd expect.

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #410 on: January 11, 2019, 11:10:03 AM »
Norwich supporters ecstatic over this news...lets hope Big Dave and the coaching staff always had this scenario in their plans...

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #411 on: January 11, 2019, 11:13:01 AM »
Norwich supporters ecstatic over this news...lets hope Big Dave and the coaching staff always had this scenario in their plans...
Yes its simple, lets go and get another loan man with stats that match Barnes
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #412 on: January 11, 2019, 11:13:09 AM »
I'm still Hopeful we're allowed to keep him for one last hurrah tomorrow before he goes back!
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #413 on: January 11, 2019, 11:14:53 AM »
Still seen nothing official about Barnes returning to Leicester but if it's true that's Leicester's right, that's the risk you take with loan players.

However to recall him the bay before a top of the table clash when they could've called him back any time throught the past week shows a real lack of class on Puel's part.

Life goes on, someone else has to step up.

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #414 on: January 11, 2019, 11:18:34 AM »
I'm still Hopeful we're allowed to keep him for one last hurrah tomorrow before he goes back!
Not a chance
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #415 on: January 11, 2019, 11:20:15 AM »
Playing Brunt as one of the wide forwards would really change the way that they operate. they are expected to remain high up the pitch, higher than the centre forward and look to hold up the ball, counter with pace or look to run in behind, none of which Brunt can do which is why I didn't list him as an option.
Wouldn't be my preferred option either, but we have to accept that he is one.

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #416 on: January 11, 2019, 11:21:52 AM »
Whos his replacement tomorrow then, brunt

With big daves comments this week about our kids going out on loan then brunt is nailed on replacement for livermore tomorrow alongside barry!! :o

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #417 on: January 11, 2019, 11:24:23 AM »
We all knew it was coming, but Christ, I feel sick to the stomach. We'll do well now to reach the play-offs IMO.

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #418 on: January 11, 2019, 11:26:30 AM »
If they knew they were going to recall him, they should've done it last week before the FA Cup, and given us time to plan a replacement. To do it the day before we play a promotion rival is disgusting.
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #419 on: January 11, 2019, 11:27:14 AM »
Always the chance with this - thats the problem with loans. You never know it could be like what we done with Fitzwater to recall him to check progress.

Harvey come back  :(

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #420 on: January 11, 2019, 11:41:31 AM »
If they knew they were going to recall him, they should've done it last week before the FA Cup, and given us time to plan a replacement. To do it the day before we play a promotion rival is disgusting.

It could well have been agreed days ago between the clubs, we don't know where John Percy (who broke it on Twitter) got his information from.
Knowing that the recall was a possibility & more recently a probability, it's almost inconceivable to think that there's no contingency.
We also don't know when the recall starts from, HB could well play tomorrow.
We'll probably know more when DM holds his presser.
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #421 on: January 11, 2019, 11:48:34 AM »
It's a big blow for us.
Hope the club the find a suitable replacement in the market.
if not, Sako should start while Leko or Edwards on the bench, rather than sign Giles Barnes.
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #422 on: January 11, 2019, 11:51:22 AM »
It could well have been agreed days ago between the clubs, we don't know where John Percy (who broke it on Twitter) got his information from.
Knowing that the recall was a possibility & more recently a probability, it's almost inconceivable to think that there's no contingency.
We also don't know when the recall starts from, HB could well play tomorrow.
We'll probably know more when DM holds his presser.

Puel also has his today so all will be revealed

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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #423 on: January 11, 2019, 11:56:58 AM »
One positive could be if he doesn’t get any game time by end of the season, may be more open to a move to us in the summer.
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Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« Reply #424 on: January 11, 2019, 11:58:27 AM »
Gutted he’s gone...good luck to him

Puel is now under pressure to play him though, if he doesn’t he could have a problem on his hands
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