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Offline VANDERLEI

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Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« on: July 23, 2018, 04:01:07 PM »
This kid looks a real talent. Hopefully this gets done today....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlBepvShhiI
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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2018, 04:03:49 PM »
Have a few questions over the need for this kind of deal given our ambitions (or expected ambitions) this season, but won’t put those onto the player as it’s not his fault. Looks like a real talent who made a good impact at this level last year. Hopefully he can do the same for us.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 04:10:58 PM »
Leicester mercury confirming loan is close.


Disappointed it a loan. We are being cheapskates again.

Oh well, let's give him a chance. Looks a talent
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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 04:17:23 PM »
Probably cheapskates, I grant you, but possibly Leicester wouldn't let him go any other way and we thought he was worth having.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2018, 04:22:15 PM »
Leicester mercury confirming loan is close.


Disappointed it a loan. We are being cheapskates again.

Oh well, let's give him a chance. Looks a talent

A permanent deal for this promising young player would have made a lot more sense. We’ll be back to square one this time next year and, if things work out for him Leicester will have a valuable player on their books. Possibly they didn’t want to sell him but with transfer fees spiralling we should be looking for young players who can add value to us.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2018, 04:22:49 PM »
Lads It's one loan. Who doesn't make loan signings when they're available.

We've had many successful or dud loans, let's just see what happens ffs

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2018, 04:27:26 PM »
love the mass hysteria when loans are announced.

"cheapskates, why aren't we buying him now" etc

And how many loanees have we had have turned out to the business and we should of bought them straight away?

Il wait...

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2018, 04:28:29 PM »
Lads It's one loan. Who doesn't make loan signings when they're available.

We've had many successful or dud loans, let's just see what happens ffs

Much cheaper than Sturridge and must have more impact, its an improvement ! See, positive news !
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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2018, 04:35:09 PM »
Completely hypothetical BUT

If Harvey Barnes turns out to be the difference between getting promoted and not then he is essentially a £60m loan signing. I don't understand the frustration with loans as it allows us to bring someone of a calibre we probably wouldn't be able too permanently or if we could would be financially out of reach.

Yes it leaves a hole in the squad for next season BUT you have a year to plan to fill that hole. Even if the loan is unsuccessful. Would much rather have a successful loan for 12 months than a failure of a permanent signing.


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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2018, 04:38:34 PM »
Barnsley and Leicester forum say quick feet, direct and good end product.

Already sounds Better than Burke, leko& McClean

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2018, 04:43:28 PM »
Looks decent and an improvement on McClean, not too fussed at it being a loan it just means if he is successful we will have to pay a good price for him.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2018, 04:46:51 PM »
Barnsley and Leicester forum say quick feet, direct and good end product.

Already sounds Better than Burke, leko& McClean

I spoke to a Barnsley STH I work with and they couldn't praise him enough.  Also said he had a really good attitude.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2018, 04:53:39 PM »
He is clearly too good for under 23 grade football (5 goals and an assist in 6 games at the end of last year for a winger tells it's own story), and at 19 he was one of Barnsley's better players last year in the same league, so he might well be a great addition, but it is still hard not to have the (possibly irrational) awkward feeling about taking a 20 year old on loan from a mid table prem clubs academy when he hasn't really had any game time for them.

I fully support us having loan deals from the prem and beyond, but generally you are thinking players from top clubs academies who are probably ready for senior football, but can't be risked at the sharp end of the league and so you get in during that window of opportunity (for instance, Mason Mount to Derby and Tammy Abraham when he went Bristol 2 summers ago).

When you are taking kids from similar clubs to your own though, it does feel a bit weird.

Still, if I was being honest, I think I like the sound of him more than I do of having McLean as an option so in that sense it might be an improvement.

It is a wake up call though to just how far we have fallen with this relegation, anf shows that we aren't doing much scouting abroad this summer.
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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2018, 04:54:44 PM »
Barnsley and Leicester forum say quick feet, direct and good end product.

Already sounds Better than Burke, leko& McClean

Agreed. Looks much better than McLean and thats who he is coming in to replace.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2018, 05:17:09 PM »
love the mass hysteria when loans are announced.

"cheapskates, why aren't we buying him now" etc

And how many loanees have we had have turned out to the business and we should of bought them straight away?

Il wait...

Not sure there is mass hysteria but the overall quality of signings so far look cheap and safe.

 Let's sign players who add potential to us long term and not just a twelve month option.

Let's sign players like Bobby Reid who we can sell on, if needed.

We lose an Irish international for £6m and sign a 20 y.o. on loan.

Stoke have re-signed Allen on a new deal and have gone out and bought experience and power.

I am pleased we are bringing youth in and this kid looks good but it just strikes me we are all about saving money this year in case we do not go up. We should be investing to get up, players we can sell if we do not go up. More signings like Sam Johnstone tbf. Young, up and coming and has re-sale value.

Nice one Cyrille, nice one son

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2018, 05:19:00 PM »
I remember watching the Krychowiak youtube clips and salivating........

Clearly a talented lad and his parent club want him to have game time at a lower level. Watching his passing is similar to Krychowiaks accuracy actually, and we had no one on the end of those half the time either!!

I am all for taking talent like Harvey Barnes on though, got to be better than having our pants pulled down by an injury riddled 'has been'......
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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2018, 05:25:56 PM »
Good luck Harvey and welcome to the Albion.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2018, 05:29:23 PM »
Good luck Harvey and welcome to the Albion.


Has he signed then?
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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2018, 05:31:12 PM »
His stats are very good albeit over a brief period.  Hopefully we have a sensible option to buy tied in if it works out.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2018, 05:31:19 PM »
Good player, watched him for England U20's and followed his progress at Barnsley last season.

I hate loans though, if it works out and he has a good season Leicester just put a stupid price on him and we're stuck needing another replacement. Rather take a punt on Maddison or someone from abroad.

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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2018, 05:58:45 PM »
Nothing wrong with a loan, I hope we bring in more - at this level the bigger the squad the better.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2018, 06:45:47 PM »
Nothing wrong with a loan, I hope we bring in more - at this level the bigger the squad the better.

Loan signings such as Ben Watson and Steven Reid were key for us last promotion campaign. I fail to see people’s issue with us making such signings. Perhaps we were quoted £20m to sign him and baulked at the price or they refused to let him go unless it was a loan...

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2018, 06:54:44 PM »
So he looks like someone who could play wide or could play as AM / No10....good to see an extra AM option if we are keeping Morrison and not bringing anyone else in.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2018, 07:20:58 PM »

Has he signed then?

 I thought it was done deal! My apologies if it is not.

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Re: Harvey Barnes
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2018, 07:35:08 PM »
I thought it was done deal! My apologies if it is not.

My understanding is, it's supposition based on the fact that he followed WBA on his twitter account & posted a cryptic tweet last night.
All of the so called reliable journo's are carrying the same "cut & paste" story word for word.

And             Matt Wilson from E & S said, this morning,that we were expecting to sign the mystery winger today.

Neither the E & S nor John Percy from the Telegraph have commented.

It might be Harvey Barnes, but at the moment it's circumstantial evidence.
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