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« Reply #300 on: August 13, 2019, 01:29:00 PM »
I think he's settled in and will become an accomplished defender, I've also noticed his distribution is much better this year.
He's always got a rick in him, if he hadn't he wouldn't be here.
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« Reply #301 on: August 13, 2019, 02:16:00 PM »
I think it is clear that Moore and Jones's tactics we're a big part of why he looked so shockingly bad for so long. He's no world beater but certainly looking like an accomplished Championship player since Shan took over.

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« Reply #302 on: August 13, 2019, 05:25:46 PM »
I was a big critic of Bartley has season but he does seem to have settled into the role more.  I wonder if part of his difficulties were playing alongside Dawson, we all know Dawson's positional play is not great and maybe some of Bartley's issues were the fact that he never really trusted where Dawson would be and this effected his game...??? just a theory

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« Reply #303 on: August 14, 2019, 11:57:28 AM »
If I recall, when he was at Leeds, their fans raved about him and were disappointed when we signed and they didn't.

He can defend, bring the ball out of defence and  pass accurately over short and longer distances when he is playing in the right defences set up, which we appear to be playing at the moment and suits him imo.
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« Reply #304 on: August 14, 2019, 12:00:57 PM »
I think we really missed him last night
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« Reply #305 on: August 19, 2019, 10:01:26 AM »
Keep seeing people on social media saying they want Ajayi and Hegazi as centre halves when the big man is back from injury, I actually would have a pairing of Bartley and Hegazi.

Bartley looks leaner and more composed this season and I sense he has confidence and belief in what he is doing. So far if anything I've seen Ajayi make more mistakes and would prefer him to be battling with Livermore for the defensive midfielder position.

Of course I still see Ajayi offering back up as a defender but don't necessarily think he's our best option, am I the only one?

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« Reply #306 on: August 19, 2019, 11:28:35 AM »
I am sure Ajayi said he prefers playing DM, but it is a long hard season so we will accomodate him in both these positions no doubt. I think it's great that we now have options for every position so competition will be fierce.
Shame we couldn't have brought in one more striker.
As for Bartley i think if our fans get off his back he will be a great asset.  Last season we were playing 3 at the back and trying to football out of defence, you have to have really good players to do that, and even then you sometimes get caught out.

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« Reply #307 on: August 19, 2019, 11:36:52 AM »
I am sure Ajayi said he prefers playing DM, but it is a long hard season so we will accomodate him in both these positions no doubt. I think it's great that we now have options for every position so competition will be fierce.
Shame we couldn't have brought in one more striker.
As for Bartley i think if our fans get off his back he will be a great asset.  Last season we were playing 3 at the back and trying to football out of defence, you have to have really good players to do that, and even then you sometimes get caught out.

I think I read recently that he said he preferred playing CB and that Slavan would be a big help to him in improving him in that position.

I agree with everything in your post 
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« Reply #308 on: August 19, 2019, 11:58:03 AM »
Personally think Bartley's improved a lot since the Moore / Jones passing out the back was binned , he's not a world beater but certainly isn't as bad as some make out .
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« Reply #309 on: August 19, 2019, 11:59:03 AM »
Personally think Bartley's improved a lot since the Moore / Jones passing out the back was binned , he's not a world beater but certainly isn't as bad as some make out .

Yeah, agree with this.  He's not amazing but he's way better than he was in the other system. 

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« Reply #310 on: August 19, 2019, 12:57:15 PM »
Keep seeing people on social media saying they want Ajayi and Hegazi as centre halves when the big man is back from injury, I actually would have a pairing of Bartley and Hegazi.

Bartley looks leaner and more composed this season and I sense he has confidence and belief in what he is doing. So far if anything I've seen Ajayi make more mistakes and would prefer him to be battling with Livermore for the defensive midfielder position.

Of course I still see Ajayi offering back up as a defender but don't necessarily think he's our best option, am I the only one?

I totally agree and think that Bartley and Hegazi can make a very strong pairing at this level.

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« Reply #311 on: August 19, 2019, 01:14:21 PM »
Bartley had a decent game on Saturday.

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« Reply #312 on: August 19, 2019, 01:16:32 PM »
would much prefer Bartley and Hegazi as the CB pairing with Ajayi moving into midfield.

As others have said Bartley looks a lot better in a back 4. He looks much more composed on the ball.
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« Reply #313 on: August 19, 2019, 01:19:09 PM »
We could always try three at the back........ walks away smirking and looks back at the float bobbing about in the water  ;) .
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« Reply #314 on: August 19, 2019, 02:51:26 PM »
We could always try three at the back........ walks away smirking and looks back at the float bobbing about in the water  ;) .
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« Reply #315 on: August 19, 2019, 03:47:16 PM »
Keep seeing people on social media saying they want Ajayi and Hegazi as centre halves when the big man is back from injury, I actually would have a pairing of Bartley and Hegazi.

Bartley looks leaner and more composed this season and I sense he has confidence and belief in what he is doing. So far if anything I've seen Ajayi make more mistakes and would prefer him to be battling with Livermore for the defensive midfielder position.

Of course I still see Ajayi offering back up as a defender but don't necessarily think he's our best option, am I the only one?

I have mentioned it before, for me Ajayi should be slotting into DM once Hegazi is fully fit.

Bartley has performed a lot better than he did last year and seems to have continued his levels from the back end of last season.

Other than the Forest goal I think he's been fairly solid. I said last season I think we would see a better version of him when we changed the whole back 3 and insistence on playing out from the back at every opportunity.

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Re: Kyle Bartley
« Reply #316 on: September 22, 2019, 07:28:52 PM »
How many goals does this guy have to give away before he his dropped,he averages one a game today v Huddersfield on analaysis he bettered that average to both their goals,there second goal is obviously his poor pass, but on Sky Tv analysis his poor positioning and reaction to obriens run was terrible and Sky presenters blamed him for their 1st goal too.

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« Reply #317 on: September 22, 2019, 07:41:59 PM »
How many goals does this guy have to give away before he his dropped,he averages one a game today v Huddersfield on analaysis he bettered that average to both their goals,there second goal is obviously his poor pass, but on Sky Tv analysis his poor positioning and reaction to obriens run was terrible and Sky presenters blamed him for their 1st goal too.

Sadly, our failure to sign another centre back in addition to Semi after losing Dawson and Tosin and knowing Hegazi would miss the first two months have cost us a few goals already. Bodes well that we are fourth with him in the table as he is the obvious weak link.

I don't think there would be many who would not have predicted it. He is terrible on the ball.

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« Reply #318 on: September 22, 2019, 09:12:02 PM »
I think Nesta and Canavaro would be nervous in front of our keeper...for me Bartley keeps his place
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« Reply #319 on: September 22, 2019, 09:59:43 PM »
I think Nesta and Canavaro would be nervous in front of our keeper...for me Bartley keeps his place
Agree on Johnstone but Bartleys just as bad, both goals down to him today not Johnstone,we desperately need another Centre half

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« Reply #320 on: September 23, 2019, 12:51:14 PM »
I think Nesta and Canavaro would be nervous in front of our keeper...for me Bartley keeps his place

Our defence is making the same mistakes as last season, but there are only two players there from last season - and they're the ones making them.

Drop Bartley as soon as Hegazi is ready to go.

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« Reply #321 on: September 23, 2019, 08:27:01 PM »
While Bartley has been marginally better this season, he is still costing us goals. Hegazi is the far superior player and should come straight in for Bartley when fully fit.
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« Reply #322 on: September 23, 2019, 10:24:06 PM »
While Bartley has been marginally better this season, he is still costing us goals. Hegazi is the far superior player and should come straight in for Bartley when fully fit.
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« Reply #323 on: September 23, 2019, 10:53:01 PM »
Our defence is making the same mistakes as last season, but there are only two players there from last season - and they're the ones making them.

Drop Bartley as soon as Hegazi is ready to go.
So there would then still be 2 players from last season?

I think another keeper behind that back line and we are better off
I don’t think it’s as straight forward as people think with hegazi, yes he comes in but I think billic will look to play him with Bartley and push semi in to midfield.....or even 5 at the back with the wing backs really pushing on
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Re: Kyle Bartley
« Reply #324 on: September 24, 2019, 11:21:46 AM »
The pass for their second was just daft, there was no opposition player within about twenty yards of him, just walk forward with it, at least commit a player to close to you down before you pass.