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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #1250 on: February 16, 2018, 01:17:53 PM »
Or remove some of the players and keep him!

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« Reply #1251 on: February 16, 2018, 01:58:58 PM »
Sorry i don't get this "I don't like the gaffer, so i'll engineer a 50% pay drop for myself" line of thinking.

Surely that would point to the folks who dislike and therefore not performing for him being those who are supremely confident of moving on come relegation.  Makes no sense to me!
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« Reply #1252 on: February 16, 2018, 03:57:12 PM »
Pretty much how I feel about it too. I wanted us to give Pardew a 6 month contract with the option of a 1 yr rolling contract if he kept us up or at worst an 18 month contract I certainly didn't expect the 30 month contract we apparently offered him.

Planning for the future has got to start now (if it hasn't already) and part of that plan has to be whether we keep Pardew after this season or not. If we do decide to keep him he's got to be given funds to rebuild the side to be able to compete for promotion out of the Championship at the earliest opportunity and also there has to be a strategy for how we are going to face the challenge of being back in the Premier league.

If we stay up the board need to decide whether they think Pardew is the right man to take us forward (in fact they should be deciding this right now) and if not get the right man in (whoever that is). Whoever the manager is they need to be given funds and there also needs to be a clear strategy from the top down as to what being in the premier league means to West Bromwich Albion and what we are trying to achieve by being in it, is it to just survive? Is it to survive and have a good go at the cups? Is it to improve season on season until we are established in the top 10 and then try to push on to threatening the Europa league places?

I'm not holding my breath about any manager being given the funds. But if we are relegated those funds are going to be even further diminished. 
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« Reply #1253 on: February 16, 2018, 04:41:27 PM »
Just my view but reading what Pards has said in his press conference through matt wilsons twitter feed, it sounds like he is a dead man walking.

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« Reply #1254 on: February 16, 2018, 04:52:20 PM »
I think we just need to keep sacking managers until we find one who has a magic wand that'll turn our forwards into players that can stick the ball in the back of the net.

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« Reply #1255 on: February 16, 2018, 05:02:58 PM »
Just my view but reading what Pards has said in his press conference through matt wilsons twitter feed, it sounds like he is a dead man walking.

Completely felt that too, especially going on about how sad he is to see Williams and Goodwin leaving, wiping his hands of this incident and even going to say he regrets it! Damn this is a pretty crappy period at the albion.
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« Reply #1256 on: February 16, 2018, 05:32:05 PM »
I wonder if his team selection tomorrow will give some indication of who the 4/7 were? Will he really be able to pick those involved? I can see a few raised eyebrows when the team is announced.

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« Reply #1257 on: February 16, 2018, 05:48:31 PM »
I wonder if his team selection tomorrow will give some indication of who the 4/7 were? Will he really be able to pick those involved? I can see a few raised eyebrows when the team is announced.
If they are 'key players', which they probably are as they are 'senior', he might drop them, but I doubt he would do it the week after for Huddersfield, given how critical that game is. Probably hit the culprits in their wallets. 
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Re: Alan Pardew
« Reply #1258 on: February 16, 2018, 05:55:34 PM »
I think we just need to keep sacking managers until we find one who has a magic wand that'll turn our forwards into players that can stick the ball in the back of the net.

Employing someone with a history of winning football matches is a good start :)

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« Reply #1259 on: February 16, 2018, 08:01:05 PM »
At least Pardew has moved us on from parking the bus. Parking the taxi is a whole new level.

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« Reply #1260 on: February 16, 2018, 09:43:30 PM »
Given the seniority of the players involved in this stupid and despicable incident, I suspect it puts AP on even thinner ice than he was already in the eyes of Jenkins, who I imagine is running an autocracy at present. Anything other than our best performance and a victory tomorrow could well see AP sacked on Sunday. Even a performance/victory might not be enough.

It might well boil down to who Jenkins thinks he can bring in who's immediately available and what he judges the likelihood to be of that person hitting the ground running and making a big difference, given the run of 6 games that we have coming. How many managers would want the job at this point in time, given the grim position that we're in?

I'm not saying that I would agree with such an approach by Jenkins, but it doesn't take much to imagine it going that way.

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« Reply #1261 on: February 16, 2018, 09:53:12 PM »
If Pardew is on a 2.5 years contract and IF there's no early exit clause then it would be a fairly sizeable payoff he gets if we sack him. I doubt Jenkins would have the power to do that without the nod from Lai.

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« Reply #1262 on: February 16, 2018, 09:55:34 PM »
If Pardew is on a 2.5 years contract and IF there's no early exit clause then it would be a fairly sizeable payoff he gets if we sack him. I doubt Jenkins would have the power to do that without the nod from Lai.
Perhaps not, but it wouldn't be too hard to get that nod given all the prevailing circumstances I wouldn't have thought, should Jenkins be minded to do so.

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« Reply #1263 on: February 16, 2018, 10:05:06 PM »
wouldn't be surprised if he gets the push if we lose to Southampton.

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« Reply #1264 on: February 16, 2018, 10:05:27 PM »
He's made mistakes himself but has had some stinking luck here it has to be said.
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« Reply #1265 on: February 16, 2018, 10:07:13 PM »
He's made mistakes himself but has had some stinking luck here it has to be said.

That is so so true!

wouldn't be surprised if he gets the push if we lose to Southampton.

Unfortunately for him, so is this.

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« Reply #1266 on: February 16, 2018, 10:08:15 PM »
Given the seniority of the players involved in this stupid and despicable incident, I suspect it puts AP on even thinner ice than he was already in the eyes of Jenkins, who I imagine is running an autocracy at present. Anything other than our best performance and a victory tomorrow could well see AP sacked on Sunday. Even a performance/victory might not be enough.

It might well boil down to who Jenkins thinks he can bring in who's immediately available and what he judges the likelihood to be of that person hitting the ground running and making a big difference, given the run of 6 games that we have coming. How many managers would want the job at this point in time, given the grim position that we're in?

I'm not saying that I would agree with such an approach by Jenkins, but it doesn't take much to imagine it going that way.

To most managers that would be a dream opportunity. Can’t lose as we are expected to go down but give a 2 million pound bonus to keep us up.

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« Reply #1267 on: February 16, 2018, 10:09:13 PM »
I never want to see any of the 'Barcelona 4' put on an Albion shirt again, but I can't see Pardew is to blame.

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« Reply #1268 on: February 16, 2018, 10:15:28 PM »
He's made mistakes himself but has had some stinking luck here it has to be said.
I agree entirely, particularly when you'd have to think it would almost certainly be the end of him being a manager in the Premier League.

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« Reply #1269 on: February 16, 2018, 10:16:33 PM »
To most managers that would be a dream opportunity. Can’t lose as we are expected to go down but give a 2 million pound bonus to keep us up.
Doesn't that depend on what level those managers wish to be working at? Coming back up again would be far from easy.

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« Reply #1270 on: February 16, 2018, 10:30:36 PM »
I never want to see any of the 'Barcelona 4' put on an Albion shirt again, but I can't see Pardew is to blame.

He’s not to blame but he obviously doesn’t have the respect of his on field generals - Evans and Barry.

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« Reply #1271 on: February 16, 2018, 10:34:46 PM »
They each have 10 million in the bank - what do they care?
Ask them to bust a gut every Saturday and they (silently) laugh at you - and us.
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« Reply #1272 on: February 16, 2018, 10:42:11 PM »
I can see the iron hand of Mr Jenkins pulling out a thick wedge from the pockets of each of the Cab Four. At such a crucial stage of the season punishing them financially is the only really sensible outcome.
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« Reply #1273 on: February 16, 2018, 10:56:17 PM »
Pardew is dead man walking. Taxigate is not his  fault but it happened on his watch on trip that was no doubt his idea. It also demonstrates that his senior players have zero respect for his authority.  The two executive responsible for his appointment have been sacked in part for hiring him. I can't see him making the end of the season at this rate.

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« Reply #1274 on: February 16, 2018, 11:23:20 PM »
Pardew is dead man walking. Taxigate is not his  fault but it happened on his watch on trip that was no doubt his idea. It also demonstrates that his senior players have zero respect for his authority.  The two executive responsible for his appointment have been sacked in part for hiring him. I can't see him making the end of the season at this rate.
question begs.wtf will the players have any respect for should we twist again in the manager stakes?i myself don't have any faith left in this rabble of a squad