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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3300 on: February 10, 2019, 01:28:59 PM »
Foster, like Assou-Ekotu (ex-Spurs left back) aren't football fans. They play football to earn a living but don't love football like fans do. Foster said in the Artist in Residence programme that he plays football for that "3 o'clock rush" (I think he called it that), so it's the competition, not the game itself, that he craves.

He's spot on with his psychology comment. Footballers are not all equipped to deal with being famous or rich. And being a decent footballer doesn't always mean you're comfortable playing in front of thousands of people. I know good musicians who can't play gigs. It's psychological, but due to the egos of footballers it's hard to get them to open up about their feelings.

He seems like a genuine guy.

I don't think Foster has ever gone as far as saying he is not a football fan, but clearly he only likes the actual game, not everything that surrounds it at the very top. I wouldn't be surprised if you see him stay in the game once he retires.

In respect of the psychology though you are spot on.

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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3301 on: February 24, 2019, 09:43:53 AM »
Ben looked in terrific form again yesterday. You can’t help but admire his goalkeeping skills
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3302 on: February 27, 2019, 10:33:09 PM »
He let 5 pushed past him tonight  :o

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« Reply #3303 on: February 27, 2019, 10:51:50 PM »
He let 5 pushed past him tonight  :o


Had no chance on any of them Liverpool were rampant.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3304 on: February 28, 2019, 08:10:25 AM »
He let 5 pushed past him tonight  :o

Safe to say though, I think if he had stayed we would be 3 places above where we are now.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3305 on: February 28, 2019, 12:41:08 PM »
Safe to say though, I think if he had stayed we would be 3 places above where we are now.

That is some claim to make, if Foster was still here we would be top of the league? I disagree but am a massive Foster fan by the way.

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« Reply #3306 on: February 28, 2019, 12:46:24 PM »
That is some claim to make, if Foster was still here we would be top of the league? I disagree but am a massive Foster fan by the way.

I agree, I can't remember any goals that Sam has conceded that Foster would of saved.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3307 on: February 28, 2019, 12:56:19 PM »
It’s really a subjective view with no evidence to support it or to refute it and is, therefore, pointless, if you’ll forgive the pun
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3308 on: February 28, 2019, 01:08:48 PM »
I agree, I can't remember any goals that Sam has conceded that Foster would of saved.

The one where he got bullied into the net. :)

Can't remember which game.

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« Reply #3309 on: February 28, 2019, 01:11:22 PM »
The one where he got bullied into the net. :)

Can't remember which game.


Blackburn.

I'm as certain as I can be we'd be at least six points better off if we'd still had Foster.

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« Reply #3310 on: February 28, 2019, 01:20:19 PM »

Blackburn.

I'm as certain as I can be we'd be at least six points better off if we'd still had Foster.

In fairness to him, that is the only real howler I can remember, you could argue he was fouled but he needed to be much stronger.

I think he has had a decent season overall, is he as good as Foster, no, but he is younger and has potential for the future.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3311 on: February 28, 2019, 01:20:37 PM »
I agree, I can't remember any goals that Sam has conceded that Foster would of saved.


Foster makes some incredible saves he has no right to make, Johnstone hardly saves anything. Certainly think Ben in this division is worth 9 more points.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3312 on: February 28, 2019, 06:38:42 PM »
I agree, I can't remember any goals that Sam has conceded that Foster would of saved.

Really?

Genuinely don't mean to rude yet I can't help but think you should revisit your memory bank.

Sam conceded plenty of goals he really should have saved earlier in the season.

Thought he was wearing heavy metallic diving bell boots at times.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3313 on: February 28, 2019, 09:10:42 PM »

Had no chance on any of them Liverpool were rampant.

not so sure, having watched MOTD I think he should have done better with the first 3. The first goal his positioning is poor, the second goal he had no need to rush out and the 3rd goal his positioning is again poor hence being beaten at the near post. He had no chance with the Van Dijk headers though and he did make a number of good saves as well.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3314 on: March 01, 2019, 12:52:40 PM »
While Johnstone hasn't committed too many outright howlers, I have to agree that we'd be 6+ points better off with Foster in goal. His shot-stopping is better, his command of his area is better, and his competitive edge means he wouldn't put up with some of the messing about we've been getting.

Johnstone hasn't been horrendous, but I don't think it's just a lack of experience, I just don't think he's a Premier league keeper.

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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3315 on: March 01, 2019, 01:04:26 PM »
While Johnstone hasn't committed too many outright howlers, I have to agree that we'd be 6+ points better off with Foster in goal. His shot-stopping is better, his command of his area is better, and his competitive edge means he wouldn't put up with some of the messing about we've been getting.

Johnstone hasn't been horrendous, but I don't think it's just a lack of experience, I just don't think he's a Premier league keeper.

Bens distribution can be appalling and when we mess about at the back this could have been a major issue, we will never know but I don't think that its as black and white as folks think.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3316 on: March 01, 2019, 01:41:49 PM »
Ben played with 11 players lined up on his penalty box who closed everything in sight down. I agree Ben commanded his box much better than Sam, but when it comes to howlers conceded Sam really is not as bad as some make out.

The one chance where Sam ended up in the back of his net I thought was a foul so not going to count that. For Foster to be worth 6 points better off which goals do you think he conceded that cost us 6 points? Or even 4 points better off where 2 wins became to draws?
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3317 on: March 01, 2019, 02:07:18 PM »
Ben played with 11 players lined up on his penalty box who closed everything in sight down. I agree Ben commanded his box much better than Sam, but when it comes to howlers conceded Sam really is not as bad as some make out.

The one chance where Sam ended up in the back of his net I thought was a foul so not going to count that. For Foster to be worth 6 points better off which goals do you think he conceded that cost us 6 points? Or even 4 points better off where 2 wins became to draws?
Whilst not Johnstone's biggest fan, to equate the difference Foster would have made in terms of points is impossible.
What I would say though is that the back 3 / 4 would probably have had more confidence with him behind them. Foster's no Charles Charlie Charles with his feet though so the playing out from the back would probably have filled him with dread.

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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3318 on: March 01, 2019, 02:37:14 PM »
Ben played with 11 players lined up on his penalty box who closed everything in sight down. I agree Ben commanded his box much better than Sam, but when it comes to howlers conceded Sam really is not as bad as some make out.

The one chance where Sam ended up in the back of his net I thought was a foul so not going to count that. For Foster to be worth 6 points better off which goals do you think he conceded that cost us 6 points? Or even 4 points better off where 2 wins became to draws?


He'd have kept a clean sheet at home to Middlesbrough and that's without me really needing to think about it.


He would have prevented a few of the long range efforts that have beaten Johnstone too. Sheffield Wednesday away springs to mind.


You just never see Johnstone make a save that you wouldn't expect any competent keeper to make. You never say, he had no right to save that. Foster is consistently making saves of this type.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3319 on: March 01, 2019, 11:29:59 PM »
Let’s not forget foster has 10years and 250 odd more games experience than Johnstone
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3320 on: March 01, 2019, 11:37:21 PM »
Let’s not forget foster has 10years and 250 odd more games experience than Johnstone
So he is older and less agile?

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« Reply #3321 on: March 01, 2019, 11:38:33 PM »
So he is older and less agile?


He's not though, which is a damning indictment on Johnstone, who looks heavy and flat footed.
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Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« Reply #3322 on: March 01, 2019, 11:54:56 PM »

He's not though, which is a damning indictment on Johnstone, who looks heavy and flat footed.
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« Reply #3323 on: March 02, 2019, 03:58:17 PM »

He'd have kept a clean sheet at home to Middlesbrough and that's without me really needing to think about it.


He would have prevented a few of the long range efforts that have beaten Johnstone too. Sheffield Wednesday away springs to mind.


You just never see Johnstone make a save that you wouldn't expect any competent keeper to make. You never say, he had no right to save that. Foster is consistently making saves of this type.

Although I agree with your sentiments regarding Johnstone, the save he made at home to Forest, from Lewis Grabban, won us that particular point.

You'd just like to see it more. However, that's the least of our issues at the moment.

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« Reply #3324 on: March 02, 2019, 04:01:23 PM »
Although I agree with your sentiments regarding Johnstone, the save he made at home to Forest, from Lewis Grabban, won us that particular point.

You'd just like to see it more. However, that's the least of our issues at the moment.


Just looked a bad miss to me. Virtually straight at Sam. Was surprised he saved it though to be fair.
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