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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #700 on: January 06, 2019, 06:09:36 AM »
Think that's the end of his time here. If he does well then Celtic (or a bigger club) will buy him. If he does badly then we may sell him to someone smaller and take a bigger loss on our initial outlay.

For what it's worth, as much as Rodgers is an arrogant so-and-so, he is the type of manager who could get the best out of a player like Burke. I maintain that the kid has not been given a fair chance here at all, and we could well look back on this with regret in a few years.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #701 on: January 06, 2019, 06:41:08 AM »
Think that's the end of his time here. If he does well then Celtic (or a bigger club) will buy him. If he does badly then we may sell him to someone smaller and take a bigger loss on our initial outlay.

For what it's worth, as much as Rodgers is an arrogant so-and-so, he is the type of manager who could get the best out of a player like Burke. I maintain that the kid has not been given a fair chance here at all, and we could well look back on this with regret in a few years.
Celtic or a bigger club?? This could be the apex of his career. He’s been lead a charmed life. Now is the time for him to kick on and make a name for himself.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #702 on: January 06, 2019, 07:26:23 AM »
The question still remains'why on earth did we (the capped one) pay so much for him in the first place?
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #703 on: January 06, 2019, 07:51:29 AM »
Will be fascinating to see our he gets on there.
Great to see him flourish and get back to the young talent we hoped we had got when we signed up.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #704 on: January 06, 2019, 12:08:46 PM »
The question still remains'why on earth did we (the capped one) pay so much for him in the first place?
Have a feeling it was Hammond led , never seemed a Pulis player to me.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #705 on: January 06, 2019, 01:39:28 PM »
Have a feeling it was Hammond led , never seemed a Pulis player to me.

I believe it was TP signing there were reports of him scouting him at Forest and later it was he who spoke to Ralf Rangnick to check if he was "a good lad".

The fact he'd hardly played in his short career didn't stop us making the most expensive error in our history.


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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #706 on: January 06, 2019, 01:57:05 PM »
99% of people were saying it was a great signing at the time and the type of signing we should be making

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #707 on: January 06, 2019, 02:22:13 PM »
Massive flop we spend 15 million on him can't get in the team or even on the bench. Dingles spend 15 million on players with massive sell on value.. Just shows way club is run at times.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #708 on: January 06, 2019, 03:33:37 PM »
Massive flop we spend 15 million on him can't get in the team or even on the bench. Dingles spend 15 million on players with massive sell on value.. Just shows way club is run at times.
Behave, there is no doubt Burke has pace ,strength and potential
We paid 15m....if he had hit the ground running he would now be worth double, wolves have had a really good recruitment...but it's much easier when you can afford to cover any mistakes with another replacement..we can't
If youre going to get told off, get told off for doing something not for doing nothing..

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #709 on: January 06, 2019, 03:51:15 PM »
Massive flop we spend 15 million on him can't get in the team or even on the bench. Dingles spend 15 million on players with massive sell on value.. Just shows way club is run at times.

Wolves brought in several total flops who they replaced with other expensive players. Don't be daft
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #710 on: January 06, 2019, 04:26:06 PM »
If Celtic lift any trophies this season I hope for Ollie's sake that him and his ears stand to one side while the presentation's going on :-X   ;) .
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #711 on: January 06, 2019, 06:15:13 PM »
If Celtic lift any trophies this season I hope for Ollie's sake that him and his ears stand to one side while the presentation's going on :-X   ;) .

Nice one.

Any chance you could get the inside info on the undisclosed fee paid for the Burke, as whenever I see the quoted £15m it makes want to go into enclosed space and bang my head shouting why, why, why!!!

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #712 on: January 06, 2019, 07:41:57 PM »
I believe it was TP signing there were reports of him scouting him at Forest and later it was he who spoke to Ralf Rangnick to check if he was "a good lad".

The fact he'd hardly played in his short career didn't stop us making the most expensive error in our history.
Bit of a head scratcher if true , just never seemed like a typical Pulis player then again neither did Chadli !
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #713 on: January 06, 2019, 07:47:39 PM »
Bit of a head scratcher if true , just never seemed like a typical Pulis player then again neither did Chadli !

Neither does Van La Parra who he's just signed for Boro. If he's heard of them and they've played in England, they're a Pulis player. Then he ruins them.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #714 on: January 06, 2019, 08:02:01 PM »
Neither does Van La Parra who he's just signed for Boro. If he's heard of them and they've played in England, they're a Pulis player. Then he ruins them.
Pulis to one side I always felt Burke left Forest far too early , nowhere near ready in my view .
That for me is where the issues started , badly advised.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #715 on: January 06, 2019, 09:02:48 PM »
Behave, there is no doubt Burke has pace ,strength and potential
We paid 15m....if he had hit the ground running he would now be worth double, wolves have had a really good recruitment...but it's much easier when you can afford to cover any mistakes with another replacement..we can't
If that's the case why have 3 managers never game him a run of games something can't be right.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #716 on: January 06, 2019, 09:25:05 PM »
If that's the case why have 3 managers never game him a run of games something can't be right.

Plus the Rb Leipzig manager Scotland manager.

But, I still hope he comes good for our sake

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #717 on: January 06, 2019, 11:51:18 PM »
Nice one.

Any chance you could get the inside info on the undisclosed fee paid for the Burke, as whenever I see the quoted £15m it makes want to go into enclosed space and bang my head shouting why, why, why!!!

 ;D  ;D    , no chap.

Absolutely no clue whatsoever regarding the amount on that one.

Very expensive example of speculate to accumulate thus far.

Decent player in there with potential, but it was always a long shot especially given our resources.
It doesn't matter how many resources you have.
If you don't know how to use them, they will never be enough.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #718 on: January 07, 2019, 08:57:22 AM »
Bit of a head scratcher if true , just never seemed like a typical Pulis player then again neither did Chadli !

Every so often Pulis has a go at signing a creative. He never figures out how to use them though. Look at Tuncay at Stoke for his most damning example.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #719 on: January 07, 2019, 01:08:19 PM »
If that's the case why have 3 managers never game him a run of games something can't be right.

Those three managers keep picking Hal Robson-Kanu, so I don't really trust their judgement.

Hopefully he can find some form up there, and revitalise his career.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #720 on: January 07, 2019, 05:31:56 PM »
Those three managers keep picking Hal Robson-Kanu, so I don't really trust their judgement.

Hopefully he can find some form up there, and revitalise his career.
Everyone wants to see him do well just a head scratcher it's never worked out..  Can't argue about Kanu he's had 1 good game all season.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #721 on: January 07, 2019, 06:04:03 PM »
The question still remains'why on earth did we (the capped one) pay so much for him in the first place?
And why a 5 year contract?

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #722 on: January 07, 2019, 06:08:37 PM »
The very best of luck to the boy, for his own sake and ours.

He is a confidence player and should get enough game time up there to build that confidence
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #723 on: January 07, 2019, 08:20:40 PM »
In the Premier there are choices:

- up and coming players from abroad/ lower leagues/ young.  Could be superstars but risky. (Eg Burke)
- established premier steady Eddies. (Eg Livermore)
- great but ageing stars (Eg Barry)
- great, established stars with time on their side ( pick any top player)

We obviously had no chance of the last category. The second category excites no-one.  If we get a good year or two out of a Barry, Lescott, Fletcher or Evans then they are heroes but if we get a Townsend or Anelka...

Burke was in the first category and comes with risk.  The problem is, Man U can afford to take lots of £15m risks and throw them away.  When Albion go all-in and lose, it hurts us so much more....

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #724 on: January 07, 2019, 09:11:03 PM »
Celtic have now signed Timothy Weah, who plays a similar position to Burke. Also being linked with another forward in the papers today. Burke will have his work cut out getting into their team at this rate.

Burke to the championship looked a better move to me, or to Rangers or similar.

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