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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #850 on: May 07, 2019, 10:36:39 PM »
Anyone know what the terms of the transfer was in regards to lump (no comments please on his performances)  sum and attachments?

Hoping a lot was performance related.


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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #851 on: May 07, 2019, 10:44:45 PM »
Always undisclosed. Are any deals these as ever fully disclosed?

Surprised HMRC let clubs get away with it. No wonder the fair play rules are just flouted.

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« Reply #852 on: May 07, 2019, 11:11:15 PM »
Always undisclosed. Are any deals these as ever fully disclosed?

Surprised HMRC let clubs get away with it. No wonder the fair play rules are just flouted.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #853 on: May 07, 2019, 11:32:59 PM »
Is he in the squad for the playoffs?

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #854 on: May 08, 2019, 12:55:13 PM »
Is he in the squad for the playoffs?

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #855 on: May 08, 2019, 03:20:00 PM »
Always undisclosed. Are any deals these as ever fully disclosed?

Surprised HMRC let clubs get away with it. No wonder the fair play rules are just flouted.

undisclosed to the media, has to be in the detailed accounts though, HMRC will know whats been agreed, unless brown paper bags have been exchanged of course.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #856 on: May 08, 2019, 11:09:52 PM »
undisclosed to the media, has to be in the detailed accounts though, HMRC will know whats been agreed, unless brown paper bags have been exchanged of course.

Always undisclosed, but then the press are told a clear b record singing of so and so in order for to go wow, I'll buy my season ticket now.

That and the constant link to signing William Carvalho was the season ticket marketing tactic.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #857 on: May 09, 2019, 08:57:10 AM »
Featured regularly for Rodgers, hardly getting any game time under Lennon.

Rodgers wont be taking him to Leicester with the wingers they have there, so I could imagine he will be returning to us in the summer.

With the possible high number of outgoings, I wouldn't be surprised to see the club give him another crack, especially if we remain in the championship.

We wouldn't get anywhere near what we have paid for him.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #858 on: May 09, 2019, 09:00:51 AM »
Chap I know at work is a celtic fan, asked him what he thought of Burke and he just burst out laughing........

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #859 on: May 09, 2019, 09:02:09 AM »
Can he still play for us (if needed) in the play offs, or officially still with Celtic until June 1st??
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #860 on: May 09, 2019, 09:06:39 AM »
Can he still play for us (if needed) in the play offs, or officially still with Celtic until June 1st??

I believe the squads for the Play-offs are simply the same as the ones registered at the end of January. So no, he's not eligible.
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« Reply #861 on: May 09, 2019, 09:33:58 AM »
Can he still play for us (if needed) in the play offs, or officially still with Celtic until June 1st??

I would say rthat he is not needed. Has not been here all season so why would James and Co take a chance on him with the two games coming up.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #862 on: May 12, 2019, 07:20:25 PM »
How did we spend a reported 15 million on this lad, definitely gone backwards since his loan move to Celtic. First touch is atrocious, movement of the ball is non existent and body language is poor.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #863 on: May 13, 2019, 09:51:27 AM »
How did we spend a reported 15 million on this lad, definitely gone backwards since his loan move to Celtic. First touch is atrocious, movement of the ball is non existent and body language is poor.

You would hope it wasn't £15m up front, but based on installments and appearances. Would hope you hasn't cost us more than £5m so far.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #864 on: May 19, 2019, 04:12:39 PM »
Started and hooked at h/t for Celtic today. Watched the first half to see how he was looking. Money down the drain.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #865 on: May 19, 2019, 04:16:59 PM »
I've posted before on here I felt he left Forest far too soon , barely started developing before being shipped off to Germany .
There's a lot to be said for a couple of seasons under your belt.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #866 on: May 19, 2019, 06:31:26 PM »
Lads , lets just be careful with accusations regarding transfers deals and who did what . Please don't leave this site open to legal action.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #867 on: May 19, 2019, 07:32:31 PM »
Let's put it this way the transfer made no logic at the time and it got a lot worse over time. The player has bombed out under 5 different coaches here and at Celtic. I cannot see where he goes from here. The fee is close to a 100% right off I don't know who was reponsible for it but they aren't here any more so there is nothing to be done for it.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #868 on: May 19, 2019, 09:31:59 PM »
Let's put it this way the transfer made no logic at the time and it got a lot worse over time. The player has bombed out under 5 different coaches here and at Celtic. I cannot see where he goes from here. The fee is close to a 100% right off I don't know who was reponsible for it but they aren't here any more so there is no is nothing to be done for it.

Doesn't matter what happened to facilitate this deal, the truth is it was a lack control by the hiercachy of the club that let it happen.

The disinterested/incompetent Williams, Goodman and Hammond should have questioned and stopped the deal.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #869 on: May 19, 2019, 10:21:19 PM »
Celtic fans to a man have said he has been awful after a decent start. Depending on how long he has left in his contract, I think a league 1 loan move for 6 months would be the best thing for him.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #870 on: May 20, 2019, 06:24:34 AM »
Its funny, i dont remember many cristicising the deal when we signed hin.  "Young and upcoming", "incredible talent", etc.  Some young players just never push on unfortunately.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #871 on: May 20, 2019, 08:47:20 AM »
He needs to start again.

In our position and in his position, he'd and we'd be wise to try to find a player in there.

Can we get a coach who can do that? Does he want to be a decent footballer ?

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #872 on: May 20, 2019, 09:32:49 AM »
Leipzig also bought him for 15m so I'm not sure I can go along with this why on earth did we buy him, clearly there is some talent there. He just seems to have regressed if anything since his breakthrough.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone will still gamble on him, though nothing like the money we spent - which as said was hopefully heavily clause based.

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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #873 on: May 20, 2019, 12:29:33 PM »
Leipzig also bought him for 15m so I'm not sure I can go along with this why on earth did we buy him, clearly there is some talent there. He just seems to have regressed if anything since his breakthrough.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone will still gamble on him, though nothing like the money we spent - which as said was hopefully heavily clause based.

I'm not sure how long he's contracted for, but as I understand it, the transfer fee is written down over the term of the contract. So he won't have a "book value" of £15 million now.
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Re: Oliver Burke (on loan at Celtic)
« Reply #874 on: May 20, 2019, 12:52:18 PM »
I'm not sure how long he's contracted for, but as I understand it, the transfer fee is written down over the term of the contract. So he won't have a "book value" of £15 million now.

Yeah, that's how it's done for accounting purposes.

The player is treated as an employee; it's his registration that's treated as an asset. So the transfer fee becomes depreciation against the length of that contract.