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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1175 on: October 09, 2019, 02:10:01 PM »
I think Jacko is right in saying, He's been Mr Consistent throughout his tenure at the club. Consistently poor,
but this season he has stepped up his allround game & one could say he's been Mr Consistent since the start of the season.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1176 on: October 15, 2019, 12:47:52 AM »
We have been lucky this season with regard to injuries and suspension, but if we lose Jake, his doubters will see his value to the  team.
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1177 on: October 15, 2019, 08:18:42 AM »
We have been lucky this season with regard to injuries and suspension, but if we lose Jake, his doubters will see his value to the  team.


This is one of my fears as well, especially given the role he plays and that we don't really have a similar enough replacement. I understand the need to get Sam Field playing football again hence sending him out on loan but unless we do some business in January I'd recall him for the second half of the season.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1178 on: October 15, 2019, 08:58:38 AM »

This is one of my fears as well, especially given the role he plays and that we don't really have a similar enough replacement. I understand the need to get Sam Field playing football again hence sending him out on loan but unless we do some business in January I'd recall him for the second half of the season.

I've heard we may recall him and send them Rekeem Harper back.

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« Reply #1179 on: October 15, 2019, 09:49:40 AM »
I've heard we may recall him and send them Rekeem Harper back.

I’d rather be starting harper in our side then field . Personally think Harper’s a lot better. How many managers haven’t played Field . The numbers getting bigger and he is struggling to get in the charlton side now

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1180 on: October 15, 2019, 11:34:30 AM »
If Jake was out I'd start Krov in his place.  Not a like for like but I think we'd cope ok.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1181 on: October 15, 2019, 11:40:52 AM »
I’d rather be starting harper in our side then field . Personally think Harper’s a lot better. How many managers haven’t played Field . The numbers getting bigger and he is struggling to get in the charlton side now

Pulis and Pardew both played him only Moore/Jones and Bilic haven't.

He's been more of a sub for Charlton this season but Charlton's midfield is pretty solid. Has been good when he has come on, provided a couple of goal saving blocks. Was lucky not to have had a red card a few games back for a lunge though.
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1182 on: October 15, 2019, 12:27:11 PM »
I’d rather be starting harper in our side then field . Personally think Harper’s a lot better. How many managers haven’t played Field . The numbers getting bigger and he is struggling to get in the charlton side now

Harper has real talent but has he the drive?  He doesn't seem to know where to put himself when the opposition have the ball.  Be really happy if Bilic manages to get him playing.   If its a replacement/sub for Livermore I would choose Field. 
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1183 on: October 15, 2019, 07:49:52 PM »
Pulis and Pardew both played him only Moore/Jones and Bilic haven't.

He's been more of a sub for Charlton this season but Charlton's midfield is pretty solid. Has been good when he has come on, provided a couple of goal saving blocks. Was lucky not to have had a red card a few games back for a lunge though.

Pulis and pardew played him yes but for how many games? They dropped him pretty quick from what I can remember. He certainly wasn’t a staple in their sides .

Id say pulis pardew Moore and bilic have all passed on Sam field . Now it’s looking like or bowyer is aswell. Which tells you something. He is 21 now , certainly not a kid anymore , should be starting week in week out now
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1184 on: October 15, 2019, 07:51:20 PM »
We have been lucky this season with regard to injuries and suspension, but if we lose Jake, his doubters will see his value to the  team.


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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1185 on: October 15, 2019, 08:40:42 PM »

Won't be remotely missed.
Not by you he won't , but fortunately you do not speak for everyone .
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1186 on: October 16, 2019, 09:17:41 AM »
Always looked a better player going forward, Bilic's way suits him

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1187 on: October 16, 2019, 10:52:01 AM »
I am not sure whether my views on Livermore have changed at all, I still see him as an extremely limited footballer and my eyes do not lie to me when I see him shanking anything other than a five yard pass miles wide of their target, but he has finally now reached the point where he is adding to the team what I assumed he would add when he first signed for us, a bit of athleticism in the middle of the park and the ability to get about the pitch to enable the players with more ability to thrive. It is noticeable that he has trimmed down, or lost some of the muscle that was weighing him down at least, and we are reaping the rewards this season. No one will ever convince me he has anything but shovels for feet, however.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1188 on: October 16, 2019, 12:52:36 PM »

Won't be remotely missed.

Yes he would be. Can we not give credit where it is due, regardless of who we are discussing?

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1189 on: October 16, 2019, 01:20:40 PM »
Yes he would be. Can we not give credit where it is due, regardless of who we are discussing?


We have ample replacements several of which would improve the team.
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1190 on: October 16, 2019, 01:29:59 PM »

We have ample replacements several of which would improve the team.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1191 on: October 16, 2019, 01:30:49 PM »

We have ample replacements several of which would improve the team.

See, I'm not so sure on this as we stand.

Brunt is too slow, and is rightfully being phased out.

Barry has also slowed down, and will surely struggle to play 90 minutes going forward.

Krovinovic would leave us imbalanced.

Harper does a different type of job, but his inexperience would leave us weaker.

Technically, all of them are better players than Livermore. But the balance and mix in the team would be wrong.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1192 on: October 16, 2019, 01:48:07 PM »
See, I'm not so sure on this as we stand.

Brunt is too slow, and is rightfully being phased out.

Barry has also slowed down, and will surely struggle to play 90 minutes going forward.

Krovinovic would leave us imbalanced.

Harper does a different type of job, but his inexperience would leave us weaker.

Technically, all of them are better players than Livermore. But the balance and mix in the team would be wrong.
I think of we have Ajayi and Hegazi at CB as the season wears on, we could afford to have  a more adventurous/lightweight player in for as those two will command much more space than with Bartley on the pitch, who isn't so confident at bringing the ball out (and rightly so!)

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1193 on: October 16, 2019, 07:07:43 PM »

We have ample replacements several of which would improve the team.

Name one

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1194 on: October 16, 2019, 07:14:36 PM »
Name one
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1195 on: October 16, 2019, 07:34:03 PM »
Name one
Ajayi is the only one I can think of who would probably do a better or at least equal job in Livermore's position.I would be alright with that but it would upset all the Bartley detractors with him having to play alongside Hegazi.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1196 on: October 16, 2019, 09:26:02 PM »

Won't be remotely missed.

You are just being silly now.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1197 on: October 16, 2019, 09:46:01 PM »
Name one


Brunt, Krovinović, Barry (when signed), Harper, Field (if recalled).
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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1198 on: October 16, 2019, 10:29:09 PM »
only a madman would change something that's working ok.

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Re: Jake Livermore
« Reply #1199 on: October 16, 2019, 10:49:44 PM »

Brunt, Krovinović, Barry (when signed), Harper, Field (if recalled).

This gets better. None of those would be as good. A fully fit Barry maybe, but that’s it.