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Re: Sam Field
« Reply #575 on: June 08, 2019, 02:34:04 PM »
You do realise only 2 players kept their place after the first game ?

Nothing to do with being dropped, its standard in this tournament that the squad is used during the group games


I do realise that yes, however Sam wasn't rotated back in for the 3rd match until someone was injured in the 1st half. If you don't think he was dropped for the Portugal game why didn't he start the Mexico game?
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Re: Sam Field
« Reply #576 on: June 08, 2019, 03:40:44 PM »

I do realise that yes, however Sam wasn't rotated back in for the 3rd match until someone was injured in the 1st half. If you don't think he was dropped for the Portugal game why didn't he start the Mexico game?

I have no idea why some players were picked and others not picked, thats down to the staff for that team, i'm just not assuming anything either way as I don't have any agendas.
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« Reply #577 on: June 10, 2019, 01:31:11 PM »
That age group doesn't have a particularly great team, so I don't think you can pinpoint Sam for being a poor player in it. No more than, say, Kyle Edwards.

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« Reply #578 on: June 10, 2019, 02:17:36 PM »
Just had a look, 24 pages in 3 years on not-so-young Sam, I reckon this season is make or break for him, either a regular at Xmas or on the cheerio list

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« Reply #579 on: June 10, 2019, 05:16:09 PM »
Just had a look, 24 pages in 3 years on not-so-young Sam, I reckon this season is make or break for him, either a regular at Xmas or on the cheerio list
21 last month and you are willing to write him off by Christmas? He has already made 37 appearances for us, has played reasonably well, and continues to develop. As a holding midfielder he will be at his peak in about 7 years time. Have a bit of patience.

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« Reply #580 on: June 10, 2019, 05:49:21 PM »
21 last month and you are willing to write him off by Christmas? He has already made 37 appearances for us, has played reasonably well, and continues to develop. As a holding midfielder he will be at his peak in about 7 years time. Have a bit of patience.
I've always thought he looked useful, I hope he comes through.  I hope we find a manager who will give him a fair crack at things.

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« Reply #581 on: June 10, 2019, 06:56:22 PM »
I've always thought he looked useful, I hope he comes through.  I hope we find a manager who will give him a fair crack at things.

I've just had a mental imagine of Dowling and Jenkins sifting through lost property looking for one of those......
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« Reply #582 on: June 10, 2019, 07:07:54 PM »
I'd just like to know what he's done wrong in the games he has played to attract the negativity. Can anyone answer ? 

He certainly hasn't given the ball away repeatedly or got caught out of position repeatedly or got himself sent off for reckless challenges.

The only possible answer is too much sideways or back passing. Personally I don't agree with that accusation anyway...if there is a touch of that it's probably due to general lack of movement in the team.

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« Reply #583 on: June 11, 2019, 12:56:28 PM »
The only possible answer is too much sideways or back passing. Personally I don't agree with that accusation anyway...if there is a touch of that it's probably due to general lack of movement in the team.

If you watch the games, I think Sam does go sideways and backwards too often - early on in games. By about half time / beginning of the second half, he seems to have grown in confidence and starts trying more things. It's something that will come with experience and confidence.

Although it would help if there was better movement in front of him.

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« Reply #584 on: July 26, 2019, 05:57:42 PM »
Too much talk on this forum of Sam going out on loan, ridiculous, not going to happen. Definite 1st team squad member, with plenty of game time.
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« Reply #585 on: July 26, 2019, 06:25:37 PM »
He does mainly pass the ball backwards and sideways, but then, maybe he is most use to the team as a holding player. Someone to provide cover and protect the back 4. He certainly has good defensive qualities. 
But with Krovinovic, Harper and (hopefully) Sawyers at the club, we have enough creative midfielders.
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« Reply #586 on: July 26, 2019, 07:11:49 PM »
He does mainly pass the ball backwards and sideways, but then, maybe he is most use to the team as a holding player. Someone to provide cover and protect the back 4. He certainly has good defensive qualities. 
But with Krovinovic, Harper and (hopefully) Sawyers at the club, we have enough creative midfielders.

If he’s going to be a defensive shield type of player then he’s going to be a lot more physical. At the minute he seems too soft and lightweight for that

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« Reply #587 on: July 26, 2019, 07:12:20 PM »
Have to say I think too much is being made of the sideways / backwards passing. There's a strong chance that any tendency towards that so far is down to not feeling settled in the team and/or lack of availability of runners for forward passes.
There's a general acceptance that he can tackle and we've seen that he has a decent engine and can get forward. He was there to make the run and finish for the winner at Sheff Utd. He scored in the prem v Newcastle by arriving late in the box, and showed that same late arrival on other occasions.

Sick of saying this but Megson said he has the best passing range at the club - he wouldn't say that if the lad couldn't or won't pass forward.
His main competitors for a deeper role in a middle three are Livermore and Brunt. Brunt's tackling is a liability, he's not a defense minded DM and his role this year should be to come on fresh for the last 20 minutes when needed whether that's wide or LB ....or in midfield.



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« Reply #588 on: July 26, 2019, 10:27:57 PM »
Have to say I think too much is being made of the sideways / backwards passing. There's a strong chance that any tendency towards that so far is down to not feeling settled in the team and/or lack of availability of runners for forward passes.
There's a general acceptance that he can tackle and we've seen that he has a decent engine and can get forward. He was there to make the run and finish for the winner at Sheff Utd. He scored in the prem v Newcastle by arriving late in the box, and showed that same late arrival on other occasions.

Sick of saying this but Megson said he has the best passing range at the club - he wouldn't say that if the lad couldn't or won't pass forward.
His main competitors for a deeper role in a middle three are Livermore and Brunt. Brunt's tackling is a liability, he's not a defense minded DM and his role this year should be to come on fresh for the last 20 minutes when needed whether that's wide or LB ....or in midfield.

I stand to be corrected but I am sure it was Pulis that said this and more about Field.
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Re: Sam Field
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« Reply #590 on: July 26, 2019, 10:36:37 PM »
Played well tonight. Him and Brunt looked far more comfortable on the ball than Harper and Livermore.
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« Reply #591 on: July 26, 2019, 10:38:25 PM »
I have watched him tonight, and I thought he got around the pitch better than Rekeem. I agree with an earlier poster that a lot of rubbish is attributed to backwards and sideways passing on here. He is a good passer of the ball and one of the key elements of the performance tonight was much improved ball retention by the team overall.
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« Reply #592 on: July 26, 2019, 10:38:33 PM »
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2017/11/27/gary-megson-sam-field-has-the-best-passing-range-at-west-brom/

Fair play I dont remember Megson saying that but Pulis definately said that that Field was the best young talent he had ever worked with or words to that effect.
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« Reply #593 on: July 27, 2019, 12:33:20 AM »
Have to say I think too much is being made of the sideways / backwards passing. There's a strong chance that any tendency towards that so far is down to not feeling settled in the team and/or lack of availability of runners for forward passes.
There's a general acceptance that he can tackle and we've seen that he has a decent engine and can get forward. He was there to make the run and finish for the winner at Sheff Utd. He scored in the prem v Newcastle by arriving late in the box, and showed that same late arrival on other occasions.

Sick of saying this but Megson said he has the best passing range at the club - he wouldn't say that if the lad couldn't or won't pass forward.
His main competitors for a deeper role in a middle three are Livermore and Brunt. Brunt's tackling is a liability, he's not a defense minded DM and his role this year should be to come on fresh for the last 20 minutes when needed whether that's wide or LB ....or in midfield.
I've read that comment from Megson before, but when is he going to start showing it in games? I can think of several Albion players who hit decent 20 yard passes forwards regualrly, e.g. Barry, Krovinovic, Brunt, and Sawyers will definitely.   
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« Reply #594 on: July 27, 2019, 12:49:11 AM »
Played well tonight. Him and Brunt looked far more comfortable on the ball than Harper and Livermore.


I know bad language isn't allowed on here but ******* hell!  :o

I just can't believe I've read that. Did someone hack your account Jacko?  ;D

Agree with you.

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« Reply #595 on: July 27, 2019, 01:00:14 AM »
I have watched him tonight, and I thought he got around the pitch better than Rekeem. I agree with an earlier poster that a lot of rubbish is attributed to backwards and sideways passing on here. He is a good passer of the ball and one of the key elements of the performance tonight was much improved ball retention by the team overall.

him and harper could easily be rotated this season but they both need to be getting 20-25 games.
they both should be ahead of Livermore and brunt in terms of central midfield pecking order.
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« Reply #596 on: July 27, 2019, 11:06:32 PM »
him and harper could easily be rotated this season but they both need to be getting 20-25 games.
they both should be ahead of Livermore and brunt in terms of central midfield pecking order.

Certainly Brunt, even I'm ahead of him being left footed but quick despite have only one leg ;D

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« Reply #597 on: July 27, 2019, 11:11:45 PM »
I admit to being a little sceptical about  Sam, but if he can’t step up to the plate and put in performances with a Head Coach like Bilić, then I am right, but honestly and sincerely I hope I am wrong as I do like the lad
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« Reply #598 on: July 28, 2019, 09:40:52 AM »
I admit to being a little sceptical about  Sam, but if he can’t step up to the plate and put in performances with a Head Coach like Bilić, then I am right, but honestly and sincerely I hope I am wrong as I do like the lad
In fairness to Sam he's lacked opportunities over the past 18 months, basically since Megson went. It's not as though he's continually been given chances and not performed, we've persisted with Brunt, Barry, Livermore. If Bilic backs him and gives him 5 or 6 games on the spin, we'll have a fair chance to judge where he's at now.

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« Reply #599 on: July 28, 2019, 10:37:06 AM »
In fairness to Sam he's lacked opportunities over the past 18 months, basically since Megson went. It's not as though he's continually been given chances and not performed, we've persisted with Brunt, Barry, Livermore. If Bilic backs him and gives him 5 or 6 games on the spin, we'll have a fair chance to judge where he's at now.

Stop it Adder your making to much sence, i mean give him a run of games. Humbug.