Author Topic: Gareth McAuley  (Read 99030 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Dexy

  • Administrator
  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 10194
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #575 on: August 25, 2018, 08:23:19 PM »
Loved Gmac , I can understand not keeping him at that age but at least give him chance to say goodbye .  Does not reflect well on us at all again just points towards the bean counter at the top .
Worst thing is despite his age Gmac would still defend better than Hegazi and Bartley.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2018, 09:29:58 PM by Dexy »
B_H_Baggie : Dexy : Dudleylad : kris_boing : MarkW : OldburyWBA
Hull Baggie : LiamTheBaggie : Political Cake : tommcneill : WBArgo

Bobby Taylor- Still Super to me.

glosterbaggie

  • WBA Coach

  • Offline
  • ******

  • 5294
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #576 on: August 25, 2018, 08:24:37 PM »
Agreed, could still do a job at this level for another year i feel.
A bit like letting Kevin Phillips go as he was "getting on and had a bad knee" When his injury and fitness was up in the stars.Then he went on and on as he does. You "build from the back in football" I have always promoted that and an experienced CB fit for the job does help.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf - George Orwell"
"You can't put a price on being able too live with yourself"As I said to a tory MP

baggiejohn

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 3183
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #577 on: August 25, 2018, 09:23:41 PM »
I'm more than slightly concerned about it. As long as it's within budget, who comes and goes in the playing staff is nothing to do with the board - the "football department" should be left to the coaching staff without there being outside interference. I would have disagreed with McAuley staying, but it should be Darren's decision and not Jenkins'.

And there's the rub!

DM might have had a decision to make, Bartley or GM but not both.
If it was easy, it wouldn't be Albion

A wise old owl sat in an oak, the more he saw, the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard, why aren't we like that wise old bird?

tommcneill

  • Global Moderator
  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 12814
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #578 on: August 25, 2018, 09:44:12 PM »
Big fan of GMac gutted with how we’ve treated him...it’s poor by the club  >:(

He was a hell of a player for me in that 2-3 year period
B_H_Baggie : Dexy : Dudleylad : kris_boing : MarkW : OldburyWBA
Hull Baggie : LiamTheBaggie : Political Cake : tommcneill : WBArgo

its not just the winning thats important...its rubbing the losers face in it after that counts

mulliganstired

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 4293
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #579 on: August 26, 2018, 04:58:25 PM »
What a great bloke, what a bunch of to$$ers it makes the club sound

albionden

  • WBA Newbie

  • Offline

  • 39
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #580 on: August 26, 2018, 11:15:03 PM »
If only he could find a club, and somehow we could end up playing against them , at least THEN we would get the chance to show our appreciation to a fantastic professional.... fingers crossed ...
All the best GMAC a true pro.....

Dexy

  • Administrator
  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 10194
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #581 on: August 27, 2018, 10:42:28 AM »
I see Foster had retweeted the Gmac article by Henry Winter , I'm convinced Jenkins got rid of a number of players so far .
Not saying at 38/39 Gmac should stay but the way things have been done and the cheap replacements coming in stinks of mass cost cutting especially after all the positive noises pre season. Shameful.
B_H_Baggie : Dexy : Dudleylad : kris_boing : MarkW : OldburyWBA
Hull Baggie : LiamTheBaggie : Political Cake : tommcneill : WBArgo

Bobby Taylor- Still Super to me.

TheJacko2000

  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *******

  • 13004
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #582 on: August 27, 2018, 11:03:42 AM »
I'd be on the phone to him now. Did Bartley come with a returns policy?
Proud to be a Baggie. BOING BOING.

Dexy

  • Administrator
  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 10194
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #583 on: August 27, 2018, 11:05:34 AM »
I'd be on the phone to him now. Did Bartley come with a returns policy?
As I posted earlier , so far I'd back Gmac over both Bartley and Hegazi. Seems only one bloke stopped it....
B_H_Baggie : Dexy : Dudleylad : kris_boing : MarkW : OldburyWBA
Hull Baggie : LiamTheBaggie : Political Cake : tommcneill : WBArgo

Bobby Taylor- Still Super to me.

Mr Cynical

  • Youth Baggie

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 601
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #584 on: August 27, 2018, 12:34:01 PM »
One of the stranger things about the scenario that GMac has described is that the initial rejection must have come in December/January. 
- It sounded as if Goodman/Williams were saying that it was embarassing to play GMac when they had a £30m player and a player they'd just awarded a 5-year contract. 
- I'd have thought Pardew picked the team, maybe this was implied by Pardew (the great big idiot) rather that direct from the board?  Maybe it was easier for Pardew to justify leaving GMac out this way than to actually have an open and honest conversation? 
- Mind you we didn't 'lose 4 games in a row' until February (or a previous run that finished in mid-November) neither of which really fit in with what GMac said about asking for a loan move.
- In that run of 4 defeats in Oct/Nov - i.e. previous to the transfer window - GMac started in 3 and came on as a sub in the other.
- Plus in January, GMac was in the squad for all 4 league games starting 1 and coming on as a sub in 2 more.  Which again - when the window was open - would imply that GMac was being utilised and therefore getting game time (he said he wasn't) and therefore not available for loan. 
- The heirarchy was Williams, Goodman, Hammond and Pardew.

Then, the failure to offer a new contract must have come under Jenkins (including a change of DoF to Terraneo).  Heirarchy - Jenkins, Terraneo and Moore.

It's not clear from the article but, 2 completely different heirarchies seem to have rejected GMac - one from a feeling of embarassment/self justification and the other - against the wishes of the only person with relevent football insight - on a financial basis (although the consequence was spending £4.5m on Bartley... so not just a financial decision afterall).

I like GMac.  He was suberb value for money and a real solider for the club.  But something about his story doesn't totally add up.  I can believe that Moore wanted him, but that Jenkins didn't think he'd offered value for money though. 

GMac deserved a much better exit.

Adder

  • Site Donator
  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 3986
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #585 on: August 27, 2018, 12:39:22 PM »
G-Mac was a great servant and comes across as a great bloke. The club had decisions to make about ageing players at the end of their contracts.
It maybe that DM would have kept Yacob, McAuley and Morrison but would that have been right ? - sounds like Yacob made his own decision to leave. No way should Morrison have been given 1 + 1 in his favour. 

There's a trade off, if you want more expansive football with fullbacks / wingbacks  pushing higher up the pitch then the CB's will be more exposed. If you play without a specialist out and out screening player like Yacob then the the CBs will be more exposed. 
I'm happy with the fact there is transition happening. Personally don't think Bartley has been as poor as made as made out and maybe we should cut him some slack as the whole system is evolving and yes the CBs will be pushing up more and will be a bit more exposed at times.

TheJacko2000

  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *******

  • 13004
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #586 on: August 27, 2018, 12:42:18 PM »
One of the stranger things about the scenario that GMac has described is that the initial rejection must have come in December/January. 
- It sounded as if Goodman/Williams were saying that it was embarassing to play GMac when they had a £30m player and a player they'd just awarded a 5-year contract. 
- I'd have thought Pardew picked the team, maybe this was implied by Pardew (the great big idiot) rather that direct from the board?  Maybe it was easier for Pardew to justify leaving GMac out this way than to actually have an open and honest conversation? 
- Mind you we didn't 'lose 4 games in a row' until February (or a previous run that finished in mid-November) neither of which really fit in with what GMac said about asking for a loan move.
- In that run of 4 defeats in Oct/Nov - i.e. previous to the transfer window - GMac started in 3 and came on as a sub in the other.
- Plus in January, GMac was in the squad for all 4 league games starting 1 and coming on as a sub in 2 more.  Which again - when the window was open - would imply that GMac was being utilised and therefore getting game time (he said he wasn't) and therefore not available for loan. 
- The heirarchy was Williams, Goodman, Hammond and Pardew.

Then, the failure to offer a new contract must have come under Jenkins (including a change of DoF to Terraneo).  Heirarchy - Jenkins, Terraneo and Moore.

It's not clear from the article but, 2 completely different heirarchies seem to have rejected GMac - one from a feeling of embarassment/self justification and the other - against the wishes of the only person with relevent football insight - on a financial basis (although the consequence was spending £4.5m on Bartley... so not just a financial decision afterall).

I like GMac.  He was suberb value for money and a real solider for the club.  But something about his story doesn't totally add up.  I can believe that Moore wanted him, but that Jenkins didn't think he'd offered value for money though. 

GMac deserved a much better exit.


Read to me that he was told he wouldn't be selected by Pardiola.
Proud to be a Baggie. BOING BOING.

Fritzl Palace

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 2980
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #587 on: August 27, 2018, 12:49:02 PM »
I'd take nigh on anyone over Bartley based on what I have seen thus far.

We need to loan a right back and a centre mid and revert to 4 at the back with Bartley as fourth choice centre back behind Hegazi, Dawson and the kid.

TheJacko2000

  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *******

  • 13004
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #588 on: August 27, 2018, 03:29:16 PM »
I'd take nigh on anyone over Bartley based on what I have seen thus far.

We need to loan a right back and a centre mid and revert to 4 at the back with Bartley as fourth choice centre back behind Hegazi, Dawson and the kid.


Agree with every word.
Proud to be a Baggie. BOING BOING.

VANDERLEI

  • Senior Baggie

  • Online
  • *****

  • 4439
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #589 on: August 27, 2018, 03:54:35 PM »
I'd take nigh on anyone over Bartley based on what I have seen thus far.

We need to loan a right back and a centre mid and revert to 4 at the back with Bartley as fourth choice centre back behind Hegazi, Dawson and the kid.

Agreed. Bartley isn't half the CB that GMAC was (possibly still is). Our defence looks like it is going to cost us big-time this season at the moment unless something drastically changes.

Backofthenet

  • Junior Baggie

  • Offline
  • **

  • 140
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #590 on: August 28, 2018, 03:54:36 PM »
This all comes across as pretty poor. We all have opinions about GMac versus the current defenders and I for one believe he would still do a good job for us.
Interesting that in his statement he was told that Evans was 'valued' at £30 million - odd that he was sold for peanuts on instalments.
Perhaps the business is faltering badly and it's no wonder that we are in difficulties. Now signed an ageing full back but couldn't keep an existing player that we all knew would do a job.
If we remain in this league we will do well.

Mister AT

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 3567
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #591 on: August 30, 2018, 01:27:35 PM »
Looks set to join Ipswich, so we may get to give him a good send off after all.
Loading...

Hull Baggie

  • Global Moderator
  • WBA Coach

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 5579
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #592 on: August 30, 2018, 01:29:16 PM »
This all comes across as pretty poor. We all have opinions about GMac versus the current defenders and I for one believe he would still do a good job for us.
Interesting that in his statement he was told that Evans was 'valued' at £30 million - odd that he was sold for peanuts on instalments.
Perhaps the business is faltering badly and it's no wonder that we are in difficulties. Now signed an ageing full back but couldn't keep an existing player that we all knew would do a job.
If we remain in this league we will do well.

That was because of his release clause which we were led to believe he wouldn't have signed for us without.
B_H_Baggie : Dexy : Dudleylad : kris_boing : MarkW : OldburyWBA
Hull Baggie : LiamTheBaggie : Political Cake : tommcneill : WBArgo

VANDERLEI

  • Senior Baggie

  • Online
  • *****

  • 4439
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #593 on: August 30, 2018, 09:20:33 PM »
Looks set to join Ipswich, so we may get to give him a good send off after all.

You mean after he scores a hatrick off set-pieces against us?

gerry m

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 2856
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #594 on: September 04, 2018, 06:16:31 PM »
Has joined Rangers on a one year deal. Good luck Gmac.

KYA

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 4593
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #595 on: September 04, 2018, 06:54:34 PM »
Good luck to GarryMac a legend here and I'm sure the Gers will take to him.

Baggies

  • WBA Manager

  • Offline
  • *******

  • 18036
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #596 on: September 04, 2018, 10:10:41 PM »
Good luck Gmac. Great way to end your career.
Boing Boing

liverbaggie

  • Reserve Baggie

  • Offline
  • ****

  • 1635
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #597 on: September 04, 2018, 11:08:26 PM »
Top man,top player thank you big man for putting your body on the loan for my club.

Backofthenet

  • Junior Baggie

  • Offline
  • **

  • 140
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #598 on: September 05, 2018, 01:57:15 PM »
Good enough for Rangers but not for us - laughable

Hunnington Baggie

  • Senior Baggie

  • Offline
  • *****

  • 3233
Re: Gareth McAuley
« Reply #599 on: September 05, 2018, 02:57:01 PM »
Good enough for Rangers but not for us - laughable
is it though? Hardly a high level in the Scots league.